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Bugs
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 Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: White farmers 'being wiped out' in South Africa |
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It looks as if racism hasn't stopped in Africa ... white farmers in South Africa seem to be victims of random violence -- a lot more than they should, randomly.
| Quote: | Death has stalked South Africa’s white farmers for years. The number murdered since the end of apartheid in 1994 has passed 3,000.
In neighbouring Zimbabwe, a campaign of intimidation that began in 2000 has driven more than 4,000 commercial farmers off their land, but has left fewer than two dozen dead. |
The whole article is at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....078730.ece
South Africa recently got a new President, a guy without any western education, and proven corruption case against him ... which 'disappeared' never mind that nasty rape that never quite came to real trial ... or the variety of eye-brow raising quotes that can be attributed to him. When he became President, he came with 3 first ladies, and 20 children.
To get a more three dimensional view of Zuma, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Zuma
He has revived a controversial ANC rallying song from the days of armed struggle, called Dubula Ibhunu.
| Quote: | The resurrection of Dubula Ibhunu, defended by senior ANC officials as little more then a sentimental old struggle song, has been greeted with alarm by Tom Stokes, of the opposition Democratic Alliance. He said the ANC’s continued association with the call to kill Boers could not be justified.
“Any argument by the ANC that this song is merely a preservation of struggle literature rings hollow in the face of farming families who have lost wives, mothers and grandmothers,” he added. |
The tensions seem to be mounting. Nationalization is in the air.
| Quote: | | Recently the government’s department of rural development has been airing proposals to nationalise productive farmland as a “national asset”. Critics claim it is designed to deflect criticism from the ruling ANC’s failures. |
Sounds like Mugabe is the role-model that Zuma is following. The only possible explanation is that it's an organized ethic cleansing operation. These people are citizens of South Africa, who are, essentially, being denied the protection of the law.
White liberals will, no doubt, think that, because the corpses are white, it's OK. |
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kwlafayette
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| I feel less sympathy for them by the hour. Anyone with an ounce of sense would have gotten off of that continent by now. It is getting to the point where the rest of the world might have to wall the place off. |
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ezbeatz
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| kwlafayette wrote: | | I feel less sympathy for them by the hour. Anyone with an ounce of sense would have gotten off of that continent by now. It is getting to the point where the rest of the world might have to wall the place off. |
They can't very well leave. Who's going to take them? When was the last time you heard a politician in the west say they were going to take in white South Africans because they're being persecuted. |
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Bugs
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Somehow, it's always OK to persecute white people ...
By some lights, these people have proven their patriotism because they haven't sold out and left before this.
By others, they are trapped by currency restrictions and other measures applied against taking money out of the country.
It doesn't matter. It's always their fault. Now, it's their fault that they are still in the country.
Meanwhile, the hard conclusion is ignored. What's the hard conclusion? That the old, racist regime was right ... |
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kwlafayette
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| ezbeatz wrote: | | kwlafayette wrote: | | I feel less sympathy for them by the hour. Anyone with an ounce of sense would have gotten off of that continent by now. It is getting to the point where the rest of the world might have to wall the place off. |
They can't very well leave. Who's going to take them? When was the last time you heard a politician in the west say they were going to take in white South Africans because they're being persecuted. |
Hey, if Bill Horace is smart enough to figure out how to get Canada to take and keep him, I am sure some farmer from South Africa or Zimbabwe can figure it out too. I mean, staying and getting killed vs. leaving and not getting killed should be a pretty simple choice, no?
Anybody who si still there has obviously made a choice, and they are obviously willing to live or die by that choice.
PS. And to be clear, it is their choice to make. It is their own lives, and we have no legitimate say in how they live them or not. Land is obviously more important to them than it is to me. But I really do not think the deciding factor is that no one takes white refugees or immigrants. I think my last 10 doctors have been South African. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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The article in the National Post seems to be relevant to this issue.
| Quote: | South Africa’s ANC defends singing of apartheid-era 'Kill the Boer' song
JOHANNESBURG -- South Africa's ruling party on Tuesday defended the singing of an apartheid-era song with the words "Kill the Boer" in a row that has raised fears of increasing racial polarization.
The African National Congress dismissed a ruling by a regional high court last week that uttering or publishing the words would amount to hate speech and violate the constitution put in place after the end of white minority rule.
"These songs cannot be regarded as hate speech or unconstitutional," ANC Secretary General Gwede Mantashe told a news conference. "Any judgment that describes them as such is impractical and unimplementable." |
Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/ne.....z0jiEiIfab
What part of kill whitey is not hateful ???
This part is also rather disturbing ...
| Quote: | | The fact that most whites are still far more prosperous than most blacks angers many black South Africans, who feel they have not enjoyed the benefits they expected from ANC rule since 1994. |
Liberal Translation: The National Post is racist and intolerant. |
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potan
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Whites aren't the only targets of racism in Africa. East Indians and Asians have had their fair share of discrimination for a long time, in places such as East Africa, South Africa. This is plain old xenophobic nationalism like the one found in western countries. |
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kwlafayette
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Not to mention, the virtual epidemic of rape over the entire continent. Blacks are being wiped out too in a lot of places, by other blacks. The problem is not so much racism, as a debased culture that worships violence and backwardness.
PS.
http://blogs.reuters.com/photo.....-epidemic/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7242421.stm
Culture really does matter, it is not relative, and ours is vastly superior to theirs. I would not go to many places in Africa for all the tea in China. |
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Bugs
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| kwlafayette wrote: | | Not to mention, the virtual epidemic of rape over the entire continent. Blacks are being wiped out too in a lot of places, by other blacks. The problem is not so much racism, as a debased culture that worships violence and backwardness. |
Yeah, it's racism. Without a doubt there is a lot of violence in Africa, but the fundamental loyalties are to the blood nation, before the political nation -- in other words, tribes wield a big influence.
In tribes, there are no police forces. In old-time tribal Africa, if someone stole a chicken, it could result in a mobilization of every warrior in each lineage, as if going to war, until somehow the old people arrange a settlement.
In tribes, each tribe member has obligations, through kinship, to others in his tribe. (To ask tribal people not to favour their kinsmen over strangers seems to them to be immoral, or at least it make no sense.)
Tribal obligations to come to the defense of abused tribe members enables individuals to mobilize a lot of support, and explains a lot of African violence. Notoriously, with tribes, there is no mechanism to impose a peace on any part of the tribe.
But this is a matter of all of them joining in unity against their racial enemy. They are singing stirring songs that were first created in times of oppression ... encouraging their tribal citizens to kill Boers ... I don't know what you need. Most of the world believes that you should give a relative a break over the rest of humanity ...
We call these things corruption, and try to stamp this out. That could well be one of the things that is screwing up Africa ... |
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Bugs
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This is the latest thing ... the killing of whites goes on ... this one, perhaps more justifiable than others. But the explanation is in the story ...
| Quote: | Eugene Terreblanche, the South African white supremacist leader who fought to preserve apartheid in the 1990s, has been beaten and hacked to death at his farm.
A 21-year-old man and a 15-year-old were arrested on Saturday and charged with the murder, which local media reports said they had carried out over an alleged dispute with Terreblanche over unpaid wages.
A police spokesman said that the 69-year-old, who had lived in relative obscurity in recent years, was found in bed with facial and head injuries. |
You can read the rest at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....che-killed
Terreblanche is a well-known guy in South Africa. He was a former cop who became the leader of a 'resistance movement', in the end spending three years in jail. It's worrying, because his group wore uniforms of some kind, and were modeled on militias.
After he got out of jail, he went back to his farm, and obscurity -- until the current onslaught of white murders led him to re-form his organization in 2008. No wonder.
Now, people are worrying that racial tensions will ruin the World's Cup. This highly symbolic murder comes against the backdrop of growing anxiety about 'crime' in South Africa. [Crime is a code word for the racial murders, against whites, that is sweeping through South Africa.]
Some prominent South Africans claim the the situation is being made worse by racially inflammatory propaganda coming from some figures in the ruling ANC party.
| Quote: | Host nation South Africa was described as "a timebomb" by followers of Eugene Terreblanche, who was hacked to death on Saturday.
World Cup officials also fear the killing will further hit ticket sales. With just ten weeks to go, 3.7million are still unsold. |
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho.....z0kBnmOevn |
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| They should just get out. We could use more farmers. |
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kwlafayette
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| Yeah, anything south of the equator in Africa is dodgy, north of the equator is only slightly better. I recently told my wife she could not go to South Africa, she has a friend there who is getting married. |
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