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Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: A RIGHTEOUS BATTLE Reply with quote

Americans do not look for fights. But if America, or an ally, is attacked Americans are there. Hopefully, when the leaders are aware of the threats. And so are Canadians there. Per capita we are one of the great fighting nations that also builds afterwards.

My Prime Minister stands for the military and stands for surrounded Israel. The Conservative Party is fully aware of the Islamist onslaught and would send more troops to fight the enemy over there before they infiltrate even more here.

The George H. W. Bush, Maragaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, Tony Blair, and of course the WWII leaders Winston Churchill, FDR, Harry Truman and Mackenzie King, and WWI leaders David Lloyd George, Robert Borden and even Woodrow Wilson, becaue they realized they had to win.

They had a strategy to win.

Whereas LBJ and Barack Obama interests were/are to return the troops after some skirmishes and serious battles. The brave soldiers joined to fight and win, and protect their nations, allies, and liberty.

Though WWI and WWII took four, five years (less than the 8 years in Afghanistan and Iraq) the victors established bases, and made sure the enemies would not revert to their old ways. There's still bases in Germany. The grandfathers and fathers of the enemies had to die, or just fade away with their ideologies, and then they could teach democracy to the next generation.

The Japanese play baseball.

Maybe some day and Afghani will win the Cy Young award, or an Iraqi will win an MVP in the NFL. Or a women's team soccer team will win in the Olympics. A stretch? But at least there are possibilities as long as we do not abandon a chance for choices.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The quickest way to end a war is to lose it." George Orwell.

I wonder if Obama and his clan have read that, because by advertising the timeline and how many troops are deployed why not tell them where they will attack and when, even what roads they will take so the IEDs can be ready?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both the Germans and the Japanese have a history of federal government so rebuilding their countries, including re-establishing government, was a matter of putting the infrastructures of civilization back in place.

Afghanistan's history of government is a mishmash of oligarchy, feudalism, tribal warfare and anarchy. The infrastructures are haphazard at best. Even with the willing cooperation of the people (which isn't guaranteed), this is a much more complex venture than either Germany or Japan.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
Both the Germans and the Japanese have a history of federal government so rebuilding their countries, including re-establishing government, was a matter of putting the infrastructures of civilization back in place.

Afghanistan's history of government is a mishmash of oligarchy, feudalism, tribal warfare and anarchy. The infrastructures are haphazard at best. Even with the willing cooperation of the people (which isn't guaranteed), this is a much more complex venture than either Germany or Japan.

-Mac


More complex? Yes. Less attainable? No.
Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have followed the Geneva convention... and the jihadists and druglords get away with hiding amongst the people. Try getting information about bad-ass guys in a neighbourhood such as Jane & Finch etc.The people are afraid even if they are reasonably protected with a station close by and cops frequently visible.

We need to take them out as long as it takes. The world needs a few prime militaries that are equipped and have no fear, little. What are they going to do practice on a camp? Walk on streets and nod good-day to a possible cowardly terrorist desiring martyrdom.

Armies are not for peacekeepiing, look what happened in Africa and other parts of the world. But no one has enough balls to declare a war against a country, or culture, if need be. They skirt around the truth and use euphemisms.

However, this is an unusual war, their kind. They have spread out and encourage individuals, groups, tribes, nations to kill the infidel, and the moderates bemoan that their religion has been hijacked.

America could have won in Vietnam but the strategy was ridiculous, sending troops in the jungles, in the fields that were uncertain.

Of course, when one declares a war it is to win... and sadly... citizens might die. If they stand up to the subjugators then less would perish.
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