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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: More Americans “Pro-Life” Than “Pro-Choice” for First Time Reply with quote

This is what happens when the truth of abortion is exposed on the internet instead of ignored through the filters of mainstrean media...



http://www.gallup.com/poll/118.....-Time.aspx
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all nice & dandy to see that Americans are showing more logic when it comes to abortion but as Canadians I'm more concerned on what statistics show here.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hasdrubal wrote:
It's all nice & dandy to see that Americans are showing more logic when it comes to abortion but as Canadians I'm more concerned on what statistics show here.


I hear ya. In general, Americans have over the recent years (1960s - now) been more socially to the right than Canadians, at least as far as polls - so this isn't really news, is it?
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did a search on public opinion polls on Abortion in Canada, it seems 40 years after Trudeau's Omnibus bill we have become a nation that looks at abortion as a form of birth control.

Our society has turned more to the thinking of putting themselves before their children. Abortion becomes the choice if the unborn child is in the way of the mother or parents life plan, and children that are born are placed in daycares for strangers to raise as soon as possible so the parent(s) can get on with their careers.

The over 100,000 abortions per year in Canada are absolutely shameful, as are the bonds of the family that are weakened by socialism.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RuralandRight wrote:
I just did a search on public opinion polls on Abortion in Canada, it seems 40 years after Trudeau's Omnibus bill we have become a nation that looks at abortion as a form of birth control.

Our society has turned more to the thinking of putting themselves before their children. Abortion becomes the choice if the unborn child is in the way of the mother or parents life plan, and children that are born are placed in daycares for strangers to raise as soon as possible so the parent(s) can get on with their careers.

The over 100,000 abortions per year in Canada are absolutely shameful, as are the bonds of the family that are weakened by socialism.


I agree 100%. However we have never really had a real debate on this issue because we have political leaders on all sides that are too afraid to, and we also have “conservatives” who think that abortion debate is a waste of time, and really does not matter in society.

Conservatives should be horrified with abortion, and it does go against every conservative theory out there, economic, ethical and political.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hasdrubal wrote:
It's all nice & dandy to see that Americans are showing more logic when it comes to abortion but as Canadians I'm more concerned on what statistics show here.

When I arrived at Parliament many weeks back for Question Period, just to the right of the Centennial Flame there was a woman dressed in some sort of old style (amish, but not amish) light blue clothing and she had a white old style umbrella, sort of reminded me of Mary Poppins and later in the day a Priest not preaching but just standing/observing next to a box shaped billboard which could be viewed from all sides showing imagery of abortion and there was some texts also about "Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve" as well. It made me feel good, I liked how they were doing it not yelling and screaming like crazy people but just having the boards for people to see as they walked on by...

It never ceases to amaze me the excuses people will have pro-choice, it's just insane that they can justify murder of the most innocent and precious lives by simply saying things like "it's still inside the mother", "it's not alive", "it's a woman's choice what she does with her body" which sounds all good and well except for the fact that it's MURDER.

People are thrown in jail if they commit murder anywhere else, but somehow we have enabled precious life to be snuffed out in the most brutal of fashion simply by pretending it does not have a heartbeat, fingerprints, and has no feeling. The world is sick. :?

This series of videos reveals the reality of the various methods of abortion, using the words of abortionists themselves. The videos are from Father Frank Pavone.

http://www.youtube.com/view_pl.....EF8790CA52
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I literally felt sick while watching those videos. I had no idea about the details on how abortions were preformed.
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RuralandRight wrote:
I literally felt sick while watching those videos. I had no idea about the details on how abortions were preformed.


I won't watch the videos. The pictures are hard enough for me. I can imagine though and I'm willing to bet that 90% or more of Canadians would be prolife if they watched them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I won't watch the videos. The pictures are hard enough for me. I can imagine though and I'm willing to bet that 90% or more of Canadians would be prolife if they watched them.


I wholeheartedly agree. My personally agree with the my body my choice arguement: It's the baby's body so it should be allowed to decide whether it wants to be aborted :D
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that 40 years after the Trudeau bill and 20 years after the SCC struck down any restrictions on abortion we should be debating the merits of having no federal law on this issue.

It will never happen of course; all federal parties are pro-abortion and no politician is willing to expose himself to the furor that would occur by suggesting we need to talk about it. And no wonder - there is no percentage in staking out a middle ground (the only position that has any chance of success) since you just get shot at by both sides.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way abortion will get back into the discussion is if we move to a PR system. I would estimate that 50% of Canadians favor some restrictions on abortion and 20% are ardently opposed to abortion. A prolife party (social conservative) would easily garner 25% of the vote. This would give them leverage to at least get the issue on the radar.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I support the view of 100% Pro-Choice around the globe unfortunately a large number of women are making the wrong choice and not considering the long term repercussions of such a choice.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Canada_ts wrote:
I support the view of 100% Pro-Choice around the globe unfortunately a large number of women are making the wrong choice and not considering the long term repercussions of such a choice.


"Long term repercussions"?!? What is wrong with you? What about the short term repercussions of a baby being killed. Who cares about the long term. I personally hope that the woman suffers emotionally for the rest of her life - she should.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada should definitely have an abortion law. Although from what I hear no doctor will perform an abortion when the baby can potentially survive, we cannot rely on such kinds of gentlemen's agreements forever.

As the federal parties need votes in all the provinces, which span the whole life-choice spectrum, I doubt a detailed federal law will ever be in place. It is probably better handled as a provincial matter. All we need to do is say that the provinces should come up with their own regulations regarding access to abortion, compliant with the SC ruling. Pass the buck, if you will.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lucamanfredi wrote:
Canada should definitely have an abortion law. Although from what I hear no doctor will perform an abortion when the baby can potentially survive, we cannot rely on such kinds of gentlemen's agreements forever.

As the federal parties need votes in all the provinces, which span the whole life-choice spectrum, I doubt a detailed federal law will ever be in place. It is probably better handled as a provincial matter. All we need to do is say that the provinces should come up with their own regulations regarding access to abortion, compliant with the SC ruling. Pass the buck, if you will.


We will never have an abortion law at the federal level until those opposed to abortion can come up with a law that has a chance of passing Parliament - unlikely in the foreseeable future.

The provinces already do control abortion policy. They can determine the time after which an abortion can be performed (except when the woman's health is involved), they license abortion clinics; in fact, in one province PEI, they are no abortions performed.

In the US, although anti-aborts are still hoping to get RoevWade overturned, they also put pressure on the states to restrict abortion. They could do the same here.
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