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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:56 am    Post subject: 7 of 10 Bloc Quebecois MPs quit caucus in protest of leader Reply with quote

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Seven of the 10 Bloc Quebecois MPs are quitting the party over Martine Ouellet’s leadership style.

They made the announcement after a Bloc caucus meeting in Ottawa this morning.

The seven will sit as Independents.

The departures are a crushing blow to a party that formed the official Opposition under Lucien Bouchard in 1993.


https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/02/28/seven-of-10-bloc-quebecois-mps-quit-caucus-in-protest-of-leader-martine-ouellet.html
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloc Québécois hobbled as 7 of 10 MPs quit



The MPs will form a separate parliamentary group


Catharine Tunney · CBC News · Posted: Feb 28, 2018 10:26 AM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago

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The Bloc Québécois, the sovereigntist party that once formed Canada's Official Opposition, is in crisis mode after seven of its 10 MPs quit.

​The party made the announcement after a caucus meeting in Ottawa on Wednesday morning, pointing to party head Martine Ouellet's leadership style as their reason for leaving.

A statement from the party said the seven will form a separate parliamentary group.


The caucus was divided into two camps: those who support Ouellet as leader and the seven who accuse her of being authoritarian.

"The crisis shaking the Bloc Québécois is bad for both the party itself and the sovereigntist movement," said the party in a French statement.

"The differences we have with our leader are unfortunately too great for a lasting peace to be envisaged."

Fall from Official Opposition to 3 MPs

One of the MPs who left is Louis Plamondon, who has been in the Commons since 1984, including the last 25 years as a Bloc MP.

"I've witnessed many crises within the Bloc Québécois and this is no doubt the deepest," Plamondon said.

The other six are:
•Luc Theriault
•Gabriel Ste-Marie
•Rheal Fortin
•Michel Boudrias
•Simon Marcil
•Monique Pauze

Fortin, who served as the party's interim leader between 2015 and 2017, said the departing members still believe in an independent Quebec, but the split came down to a clash over strategy.

He said the party members were fighting daily.

"Ouellet would like us to talk and talk about sovereignty, about the independence of Quebec, I will say, in every and all sentences. We believe that we have to make the real promotion by explaining why Quebec should be independent, what's the problem with the actual federal Constitution with that government and that system," he said.

The Bloc's impact on the national political scene has diminished since its heyday under Lucien Bouchard. In the 1993 election, the party secured 54 seats and formed the country's Official Opposition.


Bloc support ebbed and flowed after the 1995 independence referendum.

It secured another 54 seats in the 2004 election but lost official party status after the 2011 election, losing the bulk of its seats to the NDP.

'Trapped into Canada'

Ouellet told reporters her party will continue to fight for a Quebec republic.

"The best way to be able to defend the interests of Quebec is through independence," she said.

"We have all the expertise, all the means, all the economics to be able to do it. We just have to decide it ... There are so many issues where we see, 'Hey look at what we could do a lot better if we were a country but now we cannot do because we are just trapped into Canada.'"


Ouellet does not have a seat in the House of Commons, but does sit in the Quebec Legislature as an Independent.
She became Bloc leader last March.

This is not the first time she has faced revolt.

In June, the caucus challenged her leadership after a news report that her chief of staff, Louis-Philippe Dubois, allegedly leaked information to the press to tarnish a Bloc MP's reputation.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic.....-1.4555185
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the short term , this could turn out to be some minor disagreement among the mp's or in a worse case scenario for the bloc . some sort of break up of the party and these 7 mp's go off and form something else .

but isn't enough separatist votes to go around so if there were other parties , they'd just split the vote and would be hard to elect any bloc mp's
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( bernier has called on the independent bloc mp's to join the conservatives , although no word if any were seriously considering the offer )



Bernier asks newly independent Bloc MPs to join Conservative ranks

By Rachel Gilmore. Published on Feb 28, 2018 1:51pm


Maxime Bernier has called on Bloc Québécois MPs who left the party Wednesday morning to join ranks with the Conservatives. The Tory MP made the remarks just a few hours after the Bloc announced that seven members were leaving the party to sit as independents as a result of conflicts with leader Martine Ouellet. With



https://ipolitics.ca/2018/02/28/bernier-asks-newly-independent-bloc-mps-join-conservative-ranks/
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: 7 of 10 Bloc Quebecois MPs quit caucus in protest of lea Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
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Seven of the 10 Bloc Quebecois MPs are quitting the party over Martine Ouellet’s leadership style.

They made the announcement after a Bloc caucus meeting in Ottawa this morning.

The seven will sit as Independents.

The departures are a crushing blow to a party that formed the official Opposition under Lucien Bouchard in 1993.


https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/02/28/seven-of-10-bloc-quebecois-mps-quit-caucus-in-protest-of-leader-martine-ouellet.html


There are probably a lot of opportunities here. They were probably even more opportunities a week ago, before this happened. There are still lots of them.

It's just a shame we don't have a leader capable of exploiting the situation. Or any situation, for that matter ...

The promising thing is that Bernier seems to have all the right reflexes even whe he gets ho support from the party. He speaks for himself.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( the bloc will be holding a referendum on its current leader , with a rule of 50 % plus 1 for each vote , how ironic )



Referendum on Martine Ouellet's Bloc Quebecois leadership set for June 1-2

Martine Ouellet in Quebec City
Martine Ouellet in Quebec City, on March 14, 2017. (Jacques Boissinot / THE CANADIAN PRESS)
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The Canadian Press
Published Monday, March 26, 2018 11:02AM EDT



MONTREAL - Bloc Quebecois members will be able to vote on Martine Ouellet's leadership in early June.

Voting will take place by telephone or internet on June 1 and 2, with the results to be announced June 3.

The Bloc is hoping the vote will end a crisis within the party that accelerated late last month when seven of its 10 MPs resigned over Ouellet's leadership.



Members will also vote on whether the Bloc should focus on promoting Quebec independence on a daily basis.

The rule of 50 per cent plus one will govern both votes.


https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/referendum-on-martine-ouellet-s-bloc-quebecois-leadership-set-for-june-1-2-1.3858805
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( it appears the bloc quebecois is united once again and the 5 dissidents decided it would be pointless to attempt to start another political party in quebec . perhaps a lesson to Maxime Bernier . that there is little point to try and go it alone and create a new party . so much Quebec Debout we barely knew you . )


Five remaining MPs who quit Bloc Quebecois caucus are coming back home

By Mylene Crete, The Canadian Press. Published on Sep 17, 2018 9:50am


Interim Bloc Quebecois Leader Mario Beaulieu. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Ryan Remiorz



OTTAWA — Five members of the Bloc Quebecois who quit the party amid leadership turmoil are returning to the fold.

The Canadian Press has learned the party will now have all 10 MPs back under the Bloc banner as the House of Commons resumes today.

An announcement by interim Bloc Leader Mario Beaulieu and one of the dissidents, longtime MP Louis Plamondon, is set for this morning.

The 10 met in Ottawa late Sunday ahead of the return of Parliament to hammer out the details of their return.

The sovereigntist party had been in turmoil since February, when seven of its members quit over the leadership of then-leader Martine Ouellet.

Ouellet quit in June after garnering the support of just 32 per cent of a members at a leadership vote.

Two of the dissidents, Michel Boudrias and Simon Marcil, returned to the party after her departure.

Since August, the party had embarked on a mission to bring back the remaining members, forming an executive that included those who were in favour of Ouellet’s leadership and those who were opposed.

The interim leader spent the last month working behind the scenes to rally the five holdouts, who’d formed a new party, Quebec debout.



The Canadian Press


https://ipolitics.ca/2018/09/17/five-remaining-mps-who-quit-bloc-quebecois-caucus-are-coming-back-home/
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