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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:44 am    Post subject: Liberal Party "dirt" - Courts hid that Ex-MP was a Reply with quote

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Ex-MP received 'secret' cut of $12.4M deal in resort town run by his sister, OPP probe alleges
Unsealed police documents from 2014 allege fraud and breach of trust involving Collingwood town hall

Dave Seglins · CBC News · Posted: Jun 19, 2018 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago

Former Liberal MP Paul Bonwick's consulting work for companies doing business with the Town of Collingwood, Ont., has led to several controversies for his sister, Mayor Sandra Cooper. (Metroland and Dave Seglins/CBC)

A former Liberal MP may have used his connections with municipal officials in a popular vacation town northwest of Toronto — including his sister, the mayor — to secure a $756,000 consulting fee that was hidden from taxpayers, police documents obtained by CBC News reveal.

Details of the payment are contained in Ontario Provincial Police materials filed in court in 2014, as fraud investigators sought a court order to search the bank records of Paul Bonwick, a former parliamentary secretary in the Paul Martin government whose riding included the town of Collingwood.

The documents, recently unsealed at CBC's request, show Bonwick's company, Green Leaf Distribution, earned a 6.5 per cent cut of a $12.4-million construction contract he allegedly brokered with the town of Collingwood in 2012. The project was to enclose a community pool and an outdoor hockey rink in the rapidly growing resort community on the southern shore of Georgian Bay. [....]
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/.....-1.4708054


It seems that now it can be told. Our lap-dog judiciary "sealed" the records on the case so as to save the Liberal MP (and the party) the embarrassment of public disclosure of their low standards. And yet, one would hope for judges (in the future) that had the wit to understand that exposure of people who defraud the public is the most important part of their just punishment!

The "administration of justice" is such a joke in Ontario. Truly wo rthy of contempt.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please re-read the article .

Your conclusion contains elements , well actually your entire premise has missed by a wide margin.

And you talk about contempt? Kinda like contempt for the truth insofar as what you read?

Yea....

I grant you there is some foul smelling fish here but.....you havent come close.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, good, someone can explain to me why a judge would protect MPs connected to the Liberal provincial government from public disclosure of his dubious 'commissions'. Shouldn't the people who elected that mayor get to know -- as well as the rest of us.

Please explain ... or is this another one of those Michael Bryant, two-tiered law enforcement problems?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
Oh, good, someone can explain to me why a judge...

By chance can you name the judge? Which branch even? Courthouse were this was tried?

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Please explain ... or is this another one of those Michael Bryant, two-tiered law enforcement problems?

Nope

This appears to be another sad attempt to malign something that hasn't even taken place yet.

Crystal ball ?

Too funny.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul Bonwick was actually a fairly popular mp when he was in office from 1997-2004 , he only lost his seat by 100 votes in 2004 and its one of the most conservative ridings in Ontario ( simcoe grey )

but I'm really not sure what he's been up to since he left office and the liberal vote in that riding has mostly collapsed since he left as the candidate
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By chance can you name the judge? Which branch even? Courthouse were this was tried?

No , didnt think so.

Correction post will be sent soon?

Lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see what the Judge's name has to do with it. I'm trying to find out what line of legal reasoning would dupe a judge into sealing these documents so the public won't know about something dubious enough to be investigated ... what can it be if it isn't political connections?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
I don't see what the Judge's name has to do with it.

LoL ...of course you dont. Why would you.

Heres a tip ...just for you.




There has never been a case presented in court. Thus, no judge...So this...
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..Our lap-dog judiciary "sealed" the records

Nope, never happened.

This...
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The "administration of justice" is such a joke in Ontario. Truly wo rthy of contempt.

Posting something that never happened is truly worthy of contempt


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I'm trying to find out what line of legal reasoning would dupe a judge into sealing these documents so the public won't know about something dubious enough to be investigated ... what can it be if it isn't political connections?
:lol:

Keep trying...like really try man....maybe someday youll realize the folly of your ways.

Correction notice can be posted below or you can edit your OP.

Your call. (and likely youll do neither as you have done in the past)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do documents get sealed, if not on a judge's order? Or how do 'they get 'unsealed', if not through such an order?

You say there never was a trial? How do you know?

There certainly had to be some kind of proceeding. This goes back a decade. The cops got a warrant, presumably. They showed the evidence to some kind of judicial authority presumably. The records were sealed, lest the public find out about the cosy brother-sister relationship. But this is exactly the information the public has tghe most right to know -- material that bears on the integrity of their representatives. At least that's how I look at it.

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CBC News has learned the Ontario Provincial Police are probing complaints of potential conflict of interest involving the town council in Collingwood, Ont., and politicians’ ties to a lobbyist involved in a multi-million dollar sale of a local utility and on a proposed new casino.

Paul Bonwick, a former Liberal MP and now a lobbyist and president of Compenso Communications, was hired last fall by a group of investors — including the owners of the Georgian Manor resort — who wanted to bring a 300-slot machine facility to town.

Two citizens have complained to police that they fear some members of council are being improperly influenced by Bonwick and are failing to disclose their close relationships with him — amounting to a lack of transparency, or at worst a conflict of interest.

The CBC has found no evidence anyone violated any laws.

Bonwick was hired last October, and offered $20,000 as an initial retainer with the prospect of receiving $480,000 over two years if the town green-lighted the casino project and Georgian Manor won the slot contract from Ontario's Lottery and Gaming Corporation, according to a number of sources. [....]
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/collingwood-mayor-s-brother-paid-by-casino-power-companies-1.1375390


The question of why a guy like this is being protected from legal scrutiny by whoever cah "seal" public documents. Casinos are often money-laundering operations for the drug trade. There's no good reason that this should be protected.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
How do documents get sealed, if not on a judge's order? Or how do 'they get 'unsealed', if not through such an order?

Town councils. No Judge needed.
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You say there never was a trial? How do you know?

I read the article that you posted.
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There certainly had to be some kind of proceeding.

Oh? Nope.
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This goes back a decade. The cops got a warrant, presumably. They showed the evidence to some kind of judicial authority presumably. The records were sealed, lest the public find out about the cosy brother-sister relationship. But this is exactly the information the public has tghe most right to know -- material that bears on the integrity of their representatives. At least that's how I look at it.

All presumptions on your part and all wrong.

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The question of why a guy like this is being protected from legal scrutiny by whoever cah "seal" public documents.

Speculates why right in the article...that You posted.
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Casinos are often money-laundering operations for the drug trade.

No idea where this comes from.... irrelevant anyway.
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There's no good reason that this should be protected.
Now your talking...finally.

You know, this isnt good. But I have no idea why you shoot yourself in the foot with cockamamie ideas about a judge, justice system et al .
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, thank you for that, a Town Council can seal their deliberations to prevent the public they serve from being aware ... yep, that sounds like the emerging politically correct Canada!

I guess I owe you an acknowledgement.

Can we agree, at least, that this is an abuse?

Casino's are a money launderer's dream. Think about it -- whatever amount of money that shows up in the till can't be questioned. The shady guy who shot up Las Vegas was a millionaire who played the slot machines and gambled. Figure it out -- what genuine hustler spends his time at the slots?

It may not have reached your notice, but there's a narrative out there that casino licenses were part of the reason Patrick Brown was cashiered. A group who had their application turned down in B.C. because of their association with laundering opioid drug money. So they came to Ontario and Wynne gave them heir license only months before the election. Patrick Brown was the one impediment, and with the election looming ... that's the narrative. I don't certify it as true.

In Ontario, casino licenses are usually granted as a racial entitlement, are they not? So it's suspicious ...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
Well, thank you for that, a Town Council can seal their deliberations to prevent the public they serve from being aware ... yep, that sounds like the emerging politically correct Canada!

Except that has always been the case. There are rules in place for what/how/why they can do so.
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I guess I owe you an acknowledgement.

Can we agree, at least, that this is an abuse?

Thanks and absolutely especially in this case.

But I can see why they have the option since matters of confidentiality need to be kept secret, but it appears this was kept quiet to let the sister and brother game the town.
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Casino's are a money launderer's dream. Think about it -- whatever amount of money that shows up in the till can't be questioned.

Yes it can. Not to say it isnt a problem as we can see in lower mainland BC but there are safeguards in place.
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The shady guy who shot up Las Vegas was a millionaire who played the slot machines and gambled. Figure it out -- what genuine hustler spends his time at the slots?

This guy was well known to all the casinos in Vegas and presumably they knew where the money came from. (Or helped him launder it which I think occurs on a small scale)
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It may not have reached your notice, but there's a narrative out there that casino licenses were part of the reason Patrick Brown was cashiered. A group who had their application turned down in B.C. because of their association with laundering opioid drug money. So they came to Ontario and Wynne gave them heir license only months before the election. Patrick Brown was the one impediment, and with the election looming ... that's the narrative. I don't certify it as true.

I had never heard of that. Interesting to say the least.
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In Ontario, casino licenses are usually granted as a racial entitlement, are they not? So it's suspicious ...
NO they are not.
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