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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:49 am    Post subject: Justin confesses Canada's failures at the UN Reply with quote

Trigger warning: The following article quotes Justin Trudeau at his most insipid. It is recommended that readers brush their teeth after reading lest the syrupy sweetness promote decay and mind rot.
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Why confessing Canada's failures could be part of Trudeau's plan for UN success
Canada is lobbying hard for a seat on the UN Security Council in 2021
By Chris Hall, CBC News Posted: Sep 22, 2017 5:00 AM ET Last Updated: Sep 22, 2017 5:41 AM ET

Chris Hall
National Affairs Editor

A year ago, the prime minister spoke of how Canada welcomed 31,000 Syrian refugees fleeing civil war in their home country. At a time of significant upheaval, he spoke of the importance of global leaders working together to allay rather than exploit people's fears.

On Thursday, he chose this same international stage to lay out a very different vision, focused this time on what he sees as Canada's national shame, and how his government is working to right the historic wrongs perpetrated against Indigenous people.

"Canada is not a wonderland," he said in French early in his remarks at the UN, "or a country where difficulties don't exist."

To any Canadian this might seem more than a little self-evident. But what may seem far less self-evident is the purpose of a political leader using time at the UN to publicly highlight his country's failings. But make no mistake, there is a purpose.

'We need to take responsibility'

Trudeau has gone to great lengths promoting his government's re-engagement with the UN, and to similar lengths promoting reconciliation with First Nations, Inuit and Métis. Weaving these themes together was a unique chance to play both to voters at home and to world leaders in New York, where Canada is lobbying hard for a seat on the UN Security Council in 2021.

"In conversations over the years, when I've suggested that certain countries need to do better on their own human rights, their own internal challenges, the response has been, 'Well, tell me about the plight of Indigenous people,'" he told reporters after the speech.

"If there are things we are not doing right, I think we need to take responsibility for that."

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Trudeau also confirmed his government will soon be introducing legislation to guarantee equal pay for work of equal value. (Brendan McDermid/Reuters)

This speech was clearly more mea culpa than lecture. More about how Canada can take what it's learned about its own failures to bring positive solutions to global issues.

Trudeau linked his focus on a domestic issue with the UN's own sustainable development goals as he listed the needs of Indigenous people in Canada: clean drinking water and proper sanitation (Goal 6), quality education (4), gender equality (5) and sustainable communities (11).

He also spoke about his government's decision to support the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues, and to abandon the previous Conservative government's opposition to the declaration on the rights of Indigenous people.

Trudeau confirmed his government will soon introduce legislation to guarantee equal pay for work of equal value.

He repeated Canada's support for the Paris accord on climate change, and admonished other leaders that they cannot walk away from the responsibility to act.

Both statements received polite applause in the hall. [....]
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic.....-1.4301414


Am I the only one to find it both irritating and revealing that these annual speeches take place at the UN?

It's like little Lord Fauntleroy has come to Emerald City to tell the Rulers of Earth what a good boy he's been. Telling Canadians what his plans are -- not until the boys in New York get to approve first?

But that isn't what this is about. Justin is lobbying the UN to get a turn at a Security Council seat for Canada. The strategy seems to be that Canada has faced up to its history of oppressing ... well, a bunch of former hunter and gatherers. It's peanuts if you're measuring oppression on the scale of the British Empire or France or the Amerks, but it's the best our old folks could do. Tried to oppress them into getting an education for instance.

The column is the 'spin''. Trudeau seems to be basing our claim on that seat on the idea that we're so fucked up we had to face up to it before the lesser nations, so he should get his seat. Seriously.

He blasted our "history of colonialism"-- not our history as a colony of Britain, no, no, no ... there doesn't seem to be much to 'blast' there (at least outside Quebec). He regaled the world with our abuse of aboriginals ... and how we're still doing it. "We" meaning mostly the previous government, from which Justin means to save us.

Next time he goes to speak at the UN he should pay his own airfare because I don't think that's how most Canadians feel about being Canadian.

The article doesn't tell us the size of the crowd, which is the significant thing. Trump packed the place. One wonders what representatives had so little on their calendar that day that they could piss an hour down the wall listening to Justin Trudeau's vapid musings?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: Justin confesses Canada's failures at the UN Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:


Am I the only one to find it both irritating and revealing that these annual speeches take place at the UN?

Probably.
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But that isn't what this is about. Justin is lobbying the UN to get a turn at a Security Council seat for Canada.

Wouldnt that be a"good for him" ...as it is something that the previous PM wanted too?
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The article doesn't tell us the size of the crowd, which is the significant thing. Trump packed the place. One wonders what representatives had so little on their calendar that day that they could piss an hour down the wall listening to Justin Trudeau's vapid musings?


Speaking of vapid musings....<cough cough>

Anyhow, Size of the crowd? Small. Always is. Did you know though that there were more people listening to Trudeau than showed up for Harpers Speech Sept of 2015?

And? Who cares. Apparently you are the only one.

No one shows up for these, the only one who gets a packed audience is whichever sitting US Pres is speaking. Thats how it always goes.

No one shows up for Merkel, hell no one was sitting there when Theresa May spoke just prior to Trudeau. Ohhhhh noooo !!!!

Again, who cares, they all get a brief anyhow.

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I’ve covered the UN leaders week three times and sat in that hall and watched leaders of China, Russia, France, Germany — you name it — speak to empty seats. The only leader that fills the hall every time is the president of the United States (no matter who s/he is).

That’s the just the way it is at the UN.
http://blogs.canoe.com/davidakin/politics/trudeau-speaks-to-empty-hall-at-un-and-that-doesnt-matter/

Enough other things to criticize , well maybe not if this is your aim, but I digress.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual, you miss the point. I never know whether you are just playing the amiable dunce, or you really are ... well ... an amiable dunce.

The point is precisely that Justin makes some sort of squeaks of atonement for our supposedly collective sins to as sinister a band of thugs as ever assembled, the General Assembly of the United Nations, all in service of gaining one of the rotating seats on the UN.

I ask -- is this how we want to spend our political capital? <cough, cough>'

Justin and the Liberal Party seem to be promoting him as the Pope of Obsolete Liberalism, which is unfortunate timing. The legacy of Barrack Obama is something the world hopes to throw off right now, leaving just a bad memory and a determination not to elect his like again.

Justin is the new champion of globalism and the welfare state just at the moment when it faces its most serious challenges. And he manages to perfectly select all the losing parts of that program. The Liberal Party is seriously long on outdated ideology and short on a concrete plan for our future. Their time in history has passed.

What does Justin announce in Parliament, anyway? He wants to shut it down, maybe put it on a three day week. But tradition, and a respect for our sovereignty, That's the proper place to make such announcements.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
As usual, you miss the point. I never know whether you are just playing the amiable dunce, or you really are ... well ... an amiable dunce.

Nice try. Maybe your 'dunce ' writing needs cleaning up?

So....
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But that isn't what this is about.

Ok..so it isnt about...Little Lord Fauntleroy. Got it ..good.

Its about the 'spin'....in which he is correct, we are guilty of colonialism and abuse of aboriginals.
Ok...oh but then there is.......

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The article doesn't tell us the size of the crowd, which is the significant thing.


Oh my!

Wanna try again, This is an abject fail.


Nobody wants to sit and hear Harper.....did you whine about that lil boy ?

Too funny.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The revulsion grows ...

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Glavin: Trudeau, at the United Nations, charms democrats and mass murderers alike

Terry Glavin
Published on: September 21, 2017 | Last Updated: September 22, 2017 12:01 PM EDT

NEW YORK – In his address to the 72nd United Nations General Assembly here Thursday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau succeeded in ingratiating himself with the presidents of mid-level democracies, ruthless dictators and mass murderers alike. He delivered a magnificent performance that pleased everyone and offended no one.

Trudeau’s emphasis on his government’s efforts to address the longstanding alienation and impoverishment of Canada’s Indigenous communities struck just the right tone of contrition and earnestness.

“There are, today, children living on reserves in Canada who cannot safely drink, or bathe in, or even play in the water that comes out of their taps,” Trudeau said. In some communities, parents can’t put their kids to bed at night without worrying whether they will have run away by morning, or have committed suicide during the night, “and for far too many Indigenous women, life in Canada includes threats of violence so frequent and severe that Amnesty International has called it ‘a human rights crisis.’ ”

Trudeau hit all the right notes, casting his government’s remedies directly in the context of his passionate enthusiasm for the UN’s own various program goals and priorities. The federal government’s success in lifting drinking water advisories and building more houses on Indian reserves is fully in line with the UN’s Sustainable Development goals. Even the recent division of the old Indian Affairs department into a new Department of Indigenous Services and a Department of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs is an act of happy compliance with the UN Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, which Canada formally agree to adopt 15 months ago.

No one’s feelings were hurt, everyone was delighted, and that was the whole point. It has been the whole point of Trudeau’s time in New York this week, which has been given over entirely to the pursuit of the prestige he imagines Canada will gain by winning a temporary two-year seat on the 15-member UN Security Council in 2021-22, in a race against Ireland and Norway. Back in 2010, it was supposed to have been a terrible blow to Canada’s global standing when Stephen Harper’s Conservative government lost its bid for a Security Council seat. The prize went to Portugal instead, and according to myth, there was much weeping and gnashing of teeth from Newfoundland to British Columbia.

But now, “Canada is back,” as Trudeau and his admirers keep saying, and so Trudeau made no mention Thursday of the main crisis facing the UN General Assembly: the looming nuclear crisis that has been brought to a head by North Korea’s Kim Jong-un, who only a few days ago threatened to “sink” Japan and reduce the United States to ashes and shadows. On Tuesday, U.S. President Donald Trump reciprocated, in his fashion, by warning that if it comes to it, the U.S. will “total destroy” North Korea.

Neither did Trudeau mention the crisis in Myanmar, where something approaching a full-scale genocide of that country’s Rohingya Muslim minority since Aug. 25 has plunged Rakhine state into a nightmare of indiscriminate murder and torched villages. Nearly 600,000 people, roughly half of Myanmar’s entire Rohingya population, have been forced to find shelter in overflowing, makeshift camps in Bangladesh. The catastrophe has been carried out under the authority of disgraced Nobel laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, Myanmar’s State Counsellor – an honorary Canadian citizen.

Trudeau said nothing about any of that, and said absolutely nothing about anything that is central to the largely subverted purpose of the United Nations, which was established in 1945 to prevent war and genocide and to safeguard the fundamental human rights of people everywhere against the depredations of tyrant states. Trudeau said nothing on Thursday about the ongoing mass murder of Syrian civilians by Russia, Iran and the mass murderer Bashar Assad. He said nothing about China’s brutal persecution of human rights lawyers, Christians, Uyghur Muslims, workers’ rights activists and university professors.

One must take care to be polite and charming and debonair, and Justin Trudeau is eminently qualified in these talents.

A self-proclaimed champion of the fundamental human rights of gay people, Trudeau was perfectly pleasant on Wednesday in his meeting and photo opportunity with Yoweri Museveni, the strongman-president of Uganda, who has seen to it that if you are accused of being gay, and convicted, you will be sentenced to life in prison.

Trudeau was similarly courteous and agreeable when he met Wednesday with Emomali Rahmon, president of Tajikistan, where you will go to jail for five years if you insult Rahmon, whose regime also controls the names your parents are permitted to give you when you are born and the exact number of people allowed to attend your funeral when you die. Tajikistan is currently in the throes of “the worst political and religious crackdown” in decades, Human Rights Watch notes.

But one mustn’t raise these indelicate subjects. There are votes to be secured in the contest for a useless Security Council seat. Canada’s international prestige is at stake. Our global standing is on the line.

Terry Glavin is a journalist and author.
http://ottawacitizen.com/opini.....rers-alike


That a G-7 nation can be led by a government with priorities so off-base is ... inexplicable. It's the national purpose of Canada to serve endless narcissism of Justin Sinclair Trudeau?
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