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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject: Northern Ontario party calls for separation Reply with quote

( we now have a separatist movement within Ontario in Northern Ontario , some now want to leave the province )


Northern party calls for separation


Ron Grech / Postmedia

Friday, May 12, 2017 2:32:45 EDT AM

Northern Ontario Party members protested Thursday outside the Federation of Northern Ontario Municipalities conference at Nipissing University. The group is upset the party wasn't invited to the conference. Gord Young/The Nugget.



The Northern Ontario Party unveiled its platform this week in advance of next spring’s provincial election.

At the top of the list: “Begin the process of creating Northern Ontario as a province with the same rights and privileges as all other Canadian provinces.”

The separatist Northern Ontario Party is working to build support among voters in the region who feel Queen’s Park is focused on appealing to the populous cities of southern Ontario at the expense of those living in the North.

This sense of disenfranchised Northerners was actually acknowledged in the Ontario Legislature last week when MPPs unanimously endorsed a motion to create a new committee that would review policies potentially impacting Northern Ontarians. The committee would be comprised entirely of Northern MPPs.

NOP Leader Trevor Holliday, who has been pushing for Northern Ontario to become its own separate province, is dismissive of the idea.

“These are ministers and MPPs who have already been appointed by their leaders and are expected to toe the party line,” Holliday said.

Holliday suggested elected members of Liberals, Tories and New Democrats are not going to place the interests of Northern Ontarians above the political agendas of their respective parties.

“As the Northern Ontario Party, we’re looking for equal representation and if we can’t get it in Queen’s Park, then we need to have our own province to do so,” said Holliday. “That committee will not push for that, they won’t push for equal representation.”

Holliday said the MPPs who serve on this new committee will be the only beneficiaries.

“It’s just more taxpayers’ money that is going to be spent on another committee travelling, hosting information sessions, paying for their food and hotels ... In the end, whatever Toronto or Queen’s Park wants to do, they’re going to do it whether the committee recommends it or not.”

In the meantime, Holliday has been working to promote his party and hoping to build up enough interest to establish riding associations in the 11 Northern ridings where the NOP aims to have representatives running in the June 2018 provincial election.

So far, there are three ridings with NOP candidates.

Holliday is running in his home riding of Nipissing, and the party recently announced the appointment of candidates in Timiskaming-Cochrane and in Algoma-Manitoulin.

While forming a separate province within Canada is at the top of NOP’s agenda, the platform unveiled this week included 37 points covering a wide range of issues.

They include:

• Forming investment partnerships with mining and exploration companies to begin building the required infrastructure for the Ring of Fire project.

• Eliminating the use of the southern Ontario’s nuclear-generated energy in the North, and instead having the region rely entirely on Northern Ontario-produced hydro.

• Reinstating passenger rail service across Northern Ontario.

• Providing tax breaks on a sliding scale for any new company or employee-owned companies that establish itself in Northern Ontario, based on the number of full-time employees, and the employees’ total compensation package.

• Creating a polling method that would enable NOP MPPs to vote on issues in the legislature based on their constituents' wishes.

• Halting the practice of closing underutilized schools in the North, and transferring more power from the province to local school boards

http://www.nugget.ca/2017/05/1.....separation
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose people can dream, and for sure that is all they are doing at this point.

But the fact remains they could never afford what they have now if left on their own. The north is important, however the money they get from the south is why they have a decent way of living.

It would not surprise me to learn that a NOP would be terrotorially from The Soo along the TCH , dart up to Elliot Lake and then to Sudbury and up to include Timmons. The rest..?...sorry Chapleau Cochrane Red Lake Moose FactoryHaileybury Cobalt New Liskeard....you dont belong.

TL:DR - they cant afford it.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
I suppose people can dream, and for sure that is all they are doing at this point.

But the fact remains they could never afford what they have now if left on their own. The north is important, however the money they get from the south is why they have a decent way of living.

It would not surprise me to learn that a NOP would be terrotorially from The Soo along the TCH , dart up to Elliot Lake and then to Sudbury and up to include Timmons. The rest..?...sorry Chapleau Cochrane Red Lake Moose FactoryHaileybury Cobalt New Liskeard....you dont belong.

TL:DR - they cant afford it.


I believe they plan to run candidates in all the Northern Ontario ridings , although they don't appear to have a candidate in the Soo byelection which seems odd as it be a way to get some publicity

the problem with the northern economy is its very boom and bust , some of those towns can be booming when there mine is open and if prices high for whatever there mining . but once prices drop , the mines lay people off or close altogether .

is a mine north of here in Kearney that produced graphite it closed years ago and a company planned to reopen it . lots of high hopes of hundreds of new jobs for an economically depressed area but its yet to ever reopen fully . the northern economy is just very frustrating
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is boom and bust. As one who has many friends in Elliot Lake they tell me about it all the time. Beautiful area....except in the late spring and late fall.

Kearney....so you muct be close by me on weekends.

I have followed the Kearney graphite saga for a while now, but not up to date on all thats going on.
Have they really started yet?
I recall the Forester writing that there would be numerous jobs and opportunities coming which for the most part have failed to materialize.
Any updates?
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
It is boom and bust. As one who has many friends in Elliot Lake they tell me about it all the time. Beautiful area....except in the late spring and late fall.

Kearney....so you muct be close by me on weekends.

I have followed the Kearney graphite saga for a while now, but not up to date on all thats going on.
Have they really started yet?
I recall the Forester writing that there would be numerous jobs and opportunities coming which for the most part have failed to materialize.
Any updates?



I can recall reading about the massive job oppurtunities as well , but not sure it ever restarted from what I read . it sounds like a lot of money was spent to get it ready . then it never opened .

a couple articles online also indicate the site has been robbed a few times since it closed . another article also said it might try and reopen again in next year or so . I really have no idea whats going on there .

I have been to the Kearney area before but never driven in as far as mine site to see whats actually there . I've been down the other road that eventually goes into Algonquin park before , really not much back there
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, yea....not much is going on but I think they are operating on minor scale now.

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goes into Algonquin park before , really not much back there...

Thats the idea! Whats back there is heavenly bush water rock and camping for me.
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