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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:42 pm    Post subject: Liberals tried to limit the number wreaths for mp's Reply with quote

( this story is just so shameful its hard to understand how it all came about , the claim is it was a misunderstanding but original message does seem very clear that they were trying to limit the number for each mp to 2 )

Liberals limit Remembrance Day wreaths for MPs

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By Mark Bonokoski, Postmedia Network
First posted: Monday, October 16, 2017 12:59 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, October 16, 2017 04:27 PM EDT

Minister of Veterans Affairs Seamus O'Regan
Minister of Veterans Affairs Seamus O'Regan responds to a question during Question Period in the House of Commons, in Ottawa on Friday, Oct. 6, 2017. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Adrian Wyld

If there is any more needed to know how low the Trudeau Liberals will go, it was their plan this November to limit the number of Remembrance Day wreaths provided to parliamentarians to lay before cenotaphs across this country.

There was never a limit placed on wreaths before, but the federal Liberals nickel-and-diming of Canadians now has the number pared down to two.

Veterans Affairs Minister Seamus O’Regan was backtracking fast and furiously Monday, claiming a miscommunication, but the chain of evidence against him is written in parliamentary stone.

His emails and direct notices to MPs, as documented by Phil McColeman, shadow veterans affairs minister for the Conservatives, have nailed O’Regan dead to rights.

When McColeman tweeted O’Regan’s intentions, social media quickly and rightly lit up.

O’Regan’s original missive to his parliamentary colleagues was a carbon-copy of years past when Veterans Affairs Canada asked MPs to pre-order whatever number of wreaths were required to properly serve the Remembrance Day ceremonies within their ridings.

The next message, however, set a limit.

A limit of two.

There was no way the wording could be misinterpreted.

Under the subject line, “Wreaths for Parliamentarians,” the second paragraph set a limit never seen before.

“Veterans Affairs Canada is pleased to supply, upon request, two commemorative wreaths to members of Parliament who will be representing the Government of Canada at Remembrance Day ceremonies,” it read.

“The laying of wreaths is one way we can remember and acknowledge the sacrifices and achievements made by those who served Canada.”

If parliamentarians wanted or needed more, they were advised to get in touch with the Royal Canadian Legion’s Dominion Command, where a 20-inch wreath can be purchased for $100 (plus tax), and a 14-inch wreath can be bought for $70 (plus tax.)

This is all well and good in small ridings, but in Kevin Sorenson’s Alberta riding of Battle River-Crowfoot, for example, the number of small towns in his jurisdiction putting on Remembrance Day services have him requiring at least 25 Veterans Affairs wreaths.

Until this year, that was never a problem.

In McColeman’s own Brantford-Brant riding in southwestern Ontario, the bottom line number is six.

“Remembrance Day ceremonies, and the leadup to them, has already begun,” said McColeman, a nine-year veteran of the Commons. “Twice I have had to arrive empty-handed because wreaths just weren’t available — once in the small town of Oakland and, over the weekend, at the Six Nations’ commemorations.”

While Finance Minister Bill Morneau was preparing to clarify to Canadians how he was going to tax small business, Seamus O’Regan was dealing with his own heat over the limit his department had place on Remembrance Day wreaths, and backtracking wildly.

“No change to policy,” O’Regan tweeted. “Can still get more than 2 (wreaths) if needed —just call us. “We work with Legion and are encouraging MPs to work with theirs.”

What he meant by “encouraging” MPs to work with “their” local Legions, however, still leaves a certain vagueness.

Is he encouraging MPs to go to the Legion’s online shop and buy additional wreaths? Is he putting an unspecified ceiling on the number?

When pressed by McColeman in Question Period—as in “What was the minister thinking when he signed off on such a shameful idea?” — O’Regan said all MPs can receive “at least two” wreaths for Remembrance Day ceremonies.

“If you need more than two — just ask us.”

So, the Liberals are still fiddling with Remembrance Day, but they just won’t admit it outright.

Instead they’d rather play a word dance.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kamloops MP's outcry helps avoid Remembrance Day wreath gaffe

By Mike McDonald

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October 16, 2017 - 2:43 PM

KAMLOOPS - When Kamloops MP Cathy McLeod learned the federal government would only pay for two wreathes for her to lay at cenotaphs in her riding on Remembrance Day she immediately expressed her concerns with the minister responsible.

McLeod says on Remembrance Day she normally ensures wreaths are laid at 11 cenotaphs throughout Kamloops-Thompson-Cariboo to pay her respects on Nov. 11.

Along with the services in Kamloops and Tk’emlúps, she says there are ceremonies from Westwold to Clearwater and Blue River to Pine Grove.

"If you live in Ottawa obviously there's one major location, but when you represent a rural riding, which many of us do, there are cenotaphs throughout, and important services, and I think they all deserve a wreath from the Government of Canada to be laid on behalf of the people of Canada," McLeod says.

She says as long as she's been an MP she's laid wreaths at the many cenotaphs in her riding and was quite upset the government was going to get in the way of properly honouring war veterans.

McLeod received the news about the wreath limit from Veteran Affairs Minister Seamus O'Regan on Friday and let him know she thought it was a mistake.

O'Regan defended the change on social media saying MPs were only getting two paid for by taxpayers but could purchase more from their local legions if needed.

But this morning, Oct. 16, she woke up to an email saying the ministry had decided not to limit MPs to a pair of wreathes for Remembrance Day.

"I guess the minister realized he has made a big mistake," she says. "There was some significant backlash brewing and he has retracted the decision... I think he saw the error of his ways."

McLeod says she was just one of many MPs who reached out to O'Regan after the word got out about the two wreath limit which is why she feels the change of heart came so swiftly.

"If it was a budget cut it was foolish and I think the minister perhaps recognized a storm was brewing."

— This story was updated at 9:30 a.m. Tuesday, Oct. 17, 2017 to say that McLeod does not personally visit all 11 cenotaphs.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The drop a million dollars on renovations to an MPs office,
Spent tens of thousands of dollars on photographers,

However when it comes to Remembrance Days,
It seems like a logic time to cut costs?
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