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don muntean





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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...HE'S DEAD BY THE WAY..." Laughing

I love how he is presenting the facts to this so-called investigator - some might say he is being unnecessarily confrontational but I rather see it that he's genuinely responding to being victimized and his indignation is natural. All too often such civil servants bait and cultivate individuals in such circumstances - all the while demanding a robotic and detached 'cooperation' from the person they are manipulating. Yes this is evidence of a generally ignored problem growing in our society. Pseudo judicial agencies like human rights commissions employ people who have a tendency to lord over their discretionary powers. Some do this as motivated by their own socialist agendas. Let us not forget the pandering of such socialist agents to special interest groups.

My godbrother had a terrible experience with the AHRC in 1994-5 and we still reel when we think about it.

Ezra is cool - it is sad that he must be fighting something that we ought not have to [yet we're lucky someone as well spoken and informed as he is doing this] - as he noted - she was hunting for a thought crime...

No matter whatever the idiots at AHRC think - Ezra is correct and he has a right to publish what he wants - for whatever reason he wants.

If he offended a real law - like section 319 of the criminal code - he would be talking to RCMP not that bogus unqualified so-called investigator.

We can thank God that in Ottawa we have a government not prone to following suit with such agencies as their Liberal predecessors have.

When shall the population understand that Liberalism does not mean more freedoms!


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don muntean





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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope we see more direct video of this - are those 2 clips all of it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don muntean wrote:
I hope we see more direct video of this - are those 2 clips all of it?

Ezra has added a couple more. Follow the link I added to his name...

-Mac
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
crazymamma wrote:
I saw her rolling her eyes and crossing her arms. Resistance was written all over her.

I was thinking the same thing. Her body language is pure frustration and annoyance at his challenge of her "authority" and she would rather swallow her own tongue than admit Ezra is absolutely 100% right.

-Mac


It is almost like Ezra is daring the HRC to rule against him. Perhaps as Riley suggests, it would give him a chance to get this to a "real" court.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

palomino_pony wrote:
It is almost like Ezra is daring the HRC to rule against him. Perhaps as Riley suggests, it would give him a chance to get this to a "real" court.

He could well be doing exactly that. If Ezra is convicted and/or fined, he can appeal it in the Supreme Court which opens the possibility of having the legislation which empowers HRCs to be declared unconstitutional.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my world, I look outside every day and see little idiots in even smaller boats playing chicken with the shipping, but this is different. This matters.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I listened to his interview on the local Calgary radio, and he actually did say he wants to lose.

He wants to be fined and take this up to the Supreme Court to help all the others who don't have a voice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG...

What a slip of tongue:


Link


he's not entitled to his opinion! What a parody of the entire HRC!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a side note: Isn't it a bit ironic, that we - as Conservatives - are the ones standing up for civil liberties in Canada? Shocked ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don muntean wrote:
"...HE'S DEAD BY THE WAY..." Laughing

I love how he is presenting the facts to this so-called investigator - some might say he is being unnecessarily confrontational but I rather see it that he's genuinely responding to being victimized and his indignation is natural.

I don't think he's being unnecessarily confrontational at all. He's laying up a good record for a "Charter" challenge of the whole basis for these proceedings. Frankly, I wonder why he (and Marc Steyn and Macleans for that matter) didn't seek to enjoin the inquiry on Chater grounds.

I also wonder if Ezra Levant is a lawyer? His presentation seems lawyerly. In any event, here's a listing, recently posted here (link) on what looks like Mr. Levant's youtube account, of the videos of the HRC proceedings:

  1. Opening Statement
  2. What was your intent?
  3. The real violence in Edmonton
  4. I don't answer to the state
  5. Entitled to my opinion?
  6. Attributes of free speech


Does anyone know if there's a way to get a full video, in one piece, of the hearings?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
On a side note: Isn't it a bit ironic, that we - as Conservatives - are the ones standing up for civil liberties in Canada?


Honestly I think it goes beyond conservatives
you had gay groups standing up for that homophobe in Alberta
the Muslim Canada Congress is standing up for mark styen

in both cases these groups disgree with the content of the articles but find it stupid that these people are going before HRC's

I think honestly if anything we need to try and get people who support other political parties informed of the issues. This is bigger than the CPC or conservatism, this is about freedom of speech and expression is a free society, something most logical people can agree on.

As well, maybe we should start a facebook group specifically opposed to these HRC's. All the ones iv seen (for styen and ezra) are for the specific issue.

Iv often seen articles in the paper about facebook groups, and they have a way of scaring politicans into action.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
Quote of the year...

"Our right to publish whatever the hell we want regardless of whatever the hell you think"

Ezra is my hero.


Here is another good line, this one from the "Attributes of free speech" video:

"I'll rot in hell before I use my mouth to say that facist's words with you as its instrument to compel me to do so."
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riley W wrote:
On a side note: Isn't it a bit ironic, that we - as Conservatives - are the ones standing up for civil liberties in Canada? Shocked ?


Not really. Libertarians have always felt more welcomed in conservative parties.

The real irony is how liberals bend over backwards for a hate filled, oppressive religion.
don muntean





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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
Riley W wrote:
On a side note: Isn't it a bit ironic, that we - as Conservatives - are the ones standing up for civil liberties in Canada? Shocked ?


[...]

The real irony is how liberals bend over backwards for a hate filled, oppressive religion.


No doubt...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We can thank God that in Ottawa we have a government not prone to following suit with such agencies as their Liberal predecessors have.


Boy are you guys blind to the status quo attitude of the new Progressive Party of Canada led by Stephen Harper.

The last two appointments to the CHRC by Harper were liberals. He just appointed a technocrat as the new Chief Commissioner of the CHRC rather than a constructionist as he was urged to do!!!

If you wish to have things changed in this country then you must be honest about our leaders and our political parties.

There is no conservative or right of centre party or government in Canada. Harper and the new Progressive Party has become more liberal than the liberals. My God he just doled out 1 billion dollars to communities that are supposedly sufferring from economic downturn. Even though he spent this whack load of taxpayers money, the provinces and the socialists of this country are saying it is not enough.

Harper stood for many changes to this country before he chose to run for the leadership of the Alliance. During that race he said over and over and over again that he would not merge with the PCPC. However, he did and that was the first of many lies and half truths out this man. I just cannot fathom how any conservative can trust him or any political party in this country.

Will it take an armed revolution or a serious terrorist attack to open the eyes of the Canadian people? Things must change in this country and change quickly or it will become nothing moe than a lighter version of France and other European countries that embraced socialism to the degree Canada has.

I am only thankful that my kids have cuaght on with respect to the socialists politicans of this country and their hatred for freedoms. They now are purposely looking to move their studies in university to the USA so they can get out of this cesspool of socialism.
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