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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject: How feminists see men ... Reply with quote

This from the Washington Post ... and gives an insight into the way women feel about men.


Thanks for not raping us, all you ‘good men.’ But it’s not enough.
A flood of rage is rushing through women’s brains. Why can’t men organize to change themselves?

By Victoria Bissell Brown
Victoria Bissell Brown, a retired history professor at Grinnell College, lives in Haverford Township, Pa.
October 12

I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 2018), I announced that I hate all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.

My husband of 50 years did not have to stifle a laugh. He took it dead seriously. He did not defend his remark, he did not defend men. He sat, hunched and hurt, and he listened. For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. The winds calmed ever so slightly in that moment. And then the storm surge welled up in me as I realized the pathetic impotence of nice men’s plan to rebuild the wreckage by listening to women. As my rage rushed through the streets of my mind, toppling every memory of every good thing my husband has ever done (and there are scores of memories), I said the meanest thing I’ve ever said to him: Don’t you dare sit there and sympathetically promise to change. Don’t say you will stop yourself before you blurt out some impatient, annoyed, controlling remark. No, I said, you can’t change. You are unable to change. You don’t have the skills and you won’t do it. You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change.

In the centuries of feminist movements that have washed up and away, good men have not once organized their own mass movement to change themselves and their sons or to attack the mean-spirited, teasing, punching thing that passes for male culture. Not once. Bastards. Don’t listen to me. Listen to each other. Talk to each other. Earn your power for once.

The gender war that has broken out in this country is flooding all our houses. It’s rising on the torrent of memories that every woman has. Those memories have come loose from the attic and the basement where we’ve stashed them. They are floating all around us and there is no place left to store them out of sight. Not just memories of sexual abuse. Memories of being dismissed, disdained, distrusted. Memories of having to endure put-downs at the office, catcalls in the parking lot, barked orders at a dinner party. And, for some reason, the most chilling memory of all, the one Christine Blasey Ford called up and that we all recognized: the laughter. The laughter of men who are bonding with each other by mocking us. When Ford testified under oath that the laughter is the sharpest memory of her high school assault, every woman within the sound of her voice could hear that laughter, had heard that laughter, somewhere, somehow.

No man right now understands the flood that is rushing through women’s brains, and only women in the deepest denial have evacuated their minds before the flood could reach them.

When good men like Sen. Christopher A. Coons (D-Del.) give heartfelt, sincere speeches about how we must listen to women, I don’t know whether to coo or laugh or cry or yell. Think about “listen to women” as a program for change. It says to women: You will continue to suffer these abuses, men will continue to do disgusting things to you, the storms will keep coming, the tide will continue to rise, but now, we will listen and help you rebuild.

Pay attention people: If we do not raise boys to walk humbly and care deeply, if we do not demand that men do more than just listen, we will all drown in the flood. And there is no patriarchal Noah to save us.

It seems feminism is full of hate.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another example of the kinds of things that happen in educational organizations once they start catering to the social justice crowd.

UVA Health Center Hiring ‘Masculinity Specialist’

The University of Virginia Health Center is in the process of hiring for its inaugural “Masculinity Specialist,” who will fight “toxic concepts of masculinity” in the effort to promote overall student health.

According to a recent job application, the “Masculinity Specialist” — otherwise known as the “Health Promotion Specialist” — will work out of the school’s Health Center, which is funded by taxpayer subsidies and tuition dollars.

The new hire must have a “demonstrated commitment to incorporating intersectionality of multiple identities (i.e. race, gender, class, etc.) as a core tenet of one's approach to violence prevention,” and also working knowledge of “toxic concepts of masculinity.”

While it’s unclear what exactly this specialist will do once hired, it appears that the he/she/they will develop programming (perhaps mandatory workshops for incoming male freshmen?) aimed especially at “all-male student organizations.”

PJ Media reached out to U.Va. to ask why “masculinity” itself is being targeted as a risk factor for student health (in this case: sexual assault and hazing), but did not receive a response despite multiple email and phone calls.

Students reached by PJ Media have mixed views on the position.


U.Va. is actively searching for candidates and will do so until the position is filled. The new full-time hire will make upward of $55,000 — not including an undisclosed benefits package — and will be a permanent addition to the staff.

In my mind, this is an interference is the natural development of a sense of self. The individual, at the stage of his/her life when they should be discovering their own goals and priorities -- and it is more a matter of discovery than philosophy -- is hammered into a kind of submission of external cues ... under fear of being blacklisted in educational institutions.

It's the chill that shows the effect ...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: How feminists see men ... Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
This from the Washington Post ... and gives an insight into the way women feel about men.

Yup...by saying ...
"For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. "
" You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change. "

It seems feminism is full of hate.

It seems some have zero comprehension issues.

If not.... where is the hate?

Oh right, you are an old white guy living in bumf**k SW Ontario and angry at everyone.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last night , I watched Singing in the Rain with Gene Kelley and Dennis O'Connor. It's really a thin story that gives the cast lots of chances to sing and dance ... but it's like an artifact of the bad old days of patriarchy. You know, back in 50ies, when men won the hearts of women they adored, back when men shaved daily, and women had 'virtue'.

I try to contrast this picture with the new and improved sexual climate we have now. I imagine the eggs benny guy (from Cubicle City) starts his Saturday nights off with the abortion activist (his regular leg-over) -- his task is to get affirmative consent. That means, he simply says something like: May I grope your meagre titties? to which she either gives assent or not And so it goes, through all the stages ... until, finally, he slides over to the bedside table and wraps his little dicklette in a 9 miil poly plastic, tuff-as-nails ... and they do the nasty ... 30 seconds ...

Except they've been at this same 'affirmative consent' game for a couple of years now ... and she sometimes wonders what she'll do with the rape fantasies that keep flashing through her dreams.

For him ... like taking a shower with a raincoat on. In my imagination, they have achieved the perfect mix of sterility and sex ... and what I am left wondering -- why bother?

All in all, I think Gene Kelly has a better take.

How would courtship goe these days? Tell us, TC. Pleeeeze ... show us how the world is a better place than it was in Gene Kelly's prime?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Who is Dennis O'Conner? Never heard of him.

More funny business (which is bugs attempt to get under my skin) to laugh at..

1) Abortion activist? She makes babies for women who cant. Its called IVF . LOL!

2) Meagre titties? ok...you got one correct.

3) Condoms? <takes drag on cig> " Now theres a name I hadnt heard in a long while"

Anyhow, your love affair with the old days is just an infatuation with what you think it was like with what it actually was like.

Someone should in form you that Leave it to Beaver was a show. Not real life.

But you tried...so hard only to fail once again. LOL!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another empty response ... certainly no description of romance in the 21st century ... no desire to compare the 1940ies with the age of Affirmative Consent ... because love in the vinyl just ain't the same ...

What do you do -- grab a bouquet and say Wanna Fuck? Although, TC being TC, he'd probably say Wanna f**k? thinking that makes him classy!

My curiosity isn't based on any love affair with the old days, whether actual or nostalgic ... it's based on trying to understand how any woman can feel erotic towards the kind of guy who begs his way into a woman's bed? Please, baby, please, please, please ...

It seems to pathetic, so soul-destroying, so self-negating. It seems it would leave a real man feeling hollow, diminished ... well, like TC. And who would want that?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the oldies, sex meant "love" and a kind of mutual respect that started with a very happy and secure launch for the new family. It didn't always stay there, or course; But it often adjusted to reality and enjoyed fine lives together.

For the egg bennies guys, sex is less an act of love than a recreational activity ... an entertainment, for which the ticket price is manifesting a whole range of bogus behaviour. His role is like that of a male ballerina ... to go through the rituals of life with a woman, being 'coupled' -- for sex.

The more serious problem is that people like TC are being used as shock troops for a social agenda because they understand so little. They are smug in the way the brightest school-boy is smug about his knowledge while having no experience.

This is an example ... TC will support it because the playbook says it is good for women.

Icelandic Schools Force Children to Engage in 'Gender Compensation Work'

Iceland’s Hjalli schools aim to eliminate “stereotypical gender roles and behaviors.” The model, founded in 1989 by self-described radical feminist Margrét Pála Ólafsdóttir, is thriving. It centers around “gender compensation work” in which boys and girls are separated and forced to perform tasks traditionally associated with the opposite gender. NBC News reports that nine-year-old boys in one Hjalli school, for example, “styled each other's hair, painted on nail polish or gave each other full-body massages” as part of this curriculum. “The best way to get closer to equality,” Ólafsdóttir says, confusingly, “is to admit the differences.”

Schools that focus on breaking “gender norms” exist around the world. Sweden’s state curriculum, for example, seeks to break children free of “stereotyped gender roles.” But these schools and curricula come out of the feminist assumption that gender itself is a social construct — that without society’s insistence on “gender norms” men and women would be exactly the same. But Hjalli schools, it seems, are different. Ólafsdóttir’s premise is not that there is no such thing as gender. She recognizes that girls possess “sensitivity and caring natures” while boys exhibit “strength and power,” she just seems to think they shouldn’t.

Ólafsdóttir’s actual beliefs about boys and girls are surprisingly accurate, for a “radical feminist” with an insane teaching philosophy. NBC News reports that Ólafsdóttir believes that “girls are more socially capable, have a stronger ‘we’ identity and seemingly have a natural desire to be caring and helpful. Boys, on the other hand, are more individual, have a stronger ‘I’ identity, show more initiative and are naturally drawn to games and things more than people.” But she feels that these natural traits can morph into what she calls the “blue and pink haze.” Girls can turn to “self-pity and victimhood,” while boys turn to “aggression or even violence.” It’s what Ólafsdóttir does with this information that makes no earthly sense.

Rather than creating a school in which children are taught to channel their innate desires and instincts into productive, positive, and mutually beneficial endeavors — which would be healthy and useful — the Hjalli method seeks to eliminate those innate desires and instincts altogether. Logically, this is a head-scratcher, and practically, it’s akin to child abuse.

Ask yourself -- is this not training the male sex into a form of servitude?

It won't stop until it's stopped

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amy Schumer: 'Being a Woman Sucks'

Speaking on Monday’s episode of "Armchair Expert" hosted by actor Dax Shepherd, actress Amy Schumer said, “Being a woman sucks.” She elaborated by explaining that she feels bad for women who are “hot” and wouldn’t want to be an “ounce more attractive” than she already is. “Not an ounce.” According to Schumer, hot women are to be pitied because they “are sexualized, like, all the time – even when it seems crazy... guys can’t handle it. You can’t have a conversation. Everything’s gonna skew sexual and you’re gonna be treated differently.”

Schumer’s comments reveal a fundamental issue with her view of male-female relations. If men being attracted to women is a problem, then we’ve got bigger issues to deal with than whether or not Amy Schumer is “hot.” Certainly men ought not act inappropriately because of their sexual attraction to women, but the fact of their attraction is not a problem in and of itself. It only becomes a problem if we stipulate — as Schumer does — that all men are one hot girl away from becoming rapists.

“Women,” Schumer says, “we run home at night… we live in constant fear of violence.” That sounds terrifying. [....]

Amy Schumer ... comedienne. Probably as tough as Joan Rivers or Roseanne. It's not a field to go into if you have a thin skin. But listen to her simper ... Can women like this ever be satisfied?

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Christie Blatchford: Fired UBC professor Steven Galloway suing woman who accused him of sexual assault
In total, more than 20 people are named in the lawsuit, including two UBC professors and a group of former students who 'recklessly repeated' the allegation
Christie Blatchford
October 29, 2018
8:48 AM EDT

In a last-ditch attempt to stop people from calling him a rapist and worse, former University of British Columbia professor Steven Galloway is now suing the woman who first accused him of sexual assault and two UBC professors and a group of former students and others who “recklessly repeated” the woman’s allegations on social media.

In total, more than 20 individuals are named in the lawsuit, filed Friday in the Supreme Court of B.C., including the woman until now publicly known only as “Main Complainant” or “M.C.”

She is Caralea Cole, a 48-year-old successful artist and former faculty member at several universities in the United States and Canada before she enrolled in UBC’s creative writing program.

The two UBC professors are Keith Maillard, a man Galloway once considered a father figure, and Annabel Lyon, also a teacher in the creative writing program Galloway once headed.

The former UBC students include Chelsea Rooney, Brit Bachmann and Glynnis Kirchmeier, with York University’s Mandi Gray, herself a former sexual assault complainant-turned-activist, also named.

None of the allegations have been proven and the defendants have not yet filed their defences.

In the fall of 2015, with the university saying there were serious allegations of sexual assault and sexual harassment against him, UBC suspended Galloway. He was fired in June of 2016, despite a report which effectively cleared him of wrongdoing.

Former B.C. Supreme Court judge Mary Ellen Boyd wrote that report, and said she could substantiate none of the allegations against the celebrated author and former chair of UBC’s creative writing program — except, perhaps, that he’d erred by having a consensual affair with the woman.

Although her name has long been known to those at UBC and to her online supporters, Boyd described her only as M.C. and her identity has been voluntarily guarded since by the many media organizations which have published stories about the controversy for the past three years.

Even using the lower civil standard of “on a balance of probabilities” — the criminal one, “beyond a reasonable doubt,” is much tougher — the retired judge said of one purported assault that she couldn’t conclude it had occurred when alleged “or at all.”

In virtually every instance, Boyd found Galloway more credible than his accusers.

Since Boyd issued her report in April of 2016, Galloway also has won several arbitration awards against UBC for its handling of the entire matter — most recently the university was found to have breached the confidentiality provisions of the first award he won, totalling more than $240,000.

Yet according to the statement of claim, it would seem that neither the judge’s findings nor the arbitrator’s decisions have served as any sort of deterrent to Galloway’s critics.

Many of the alleged defamatory statements about him were made this year, some as recently as August.

Collectively, the allegations serve as a harsh reminder that for the online mob, judicial and quasi-judicial findings, like verdicts in criminal trials, don’t count.

The alleged defamations by Maillard and Lyon mainly relate to things they allegedly said to UBC colleagues about Galloway (that he “raped Cara Cole,” for instance) at internal meetings in 2015.

But many of the others happened on social media as recently as 2018.

For instance, just this summer, Cole had a solo show at the New York gallery High Noon. Called “Illuminated Manuscript,” the show, said the gallery description, “derives from what Cole refers to as her Rape Narrative, a narrative (and term) sanctioned by a university after she disclosed being sexually harassed, assaulted and abused by a professor.”

On Aug. 3, Theresa Smalec reviewed the show in the online magazine Political/Letters Live, and quoted from Cole’s “artist’s statement” that through the art, she was reclaiming her “narrative” to “tell my story, on my terms, for the first time through this exhibition.”

In July of this year, defendant Wendel Schwab, a student at the University of Northern British Columbia, allegedly wrote on Twitter: “In my opinion, Steven Galloway sexually assaults women … in my opinion, Steven Galloway is what I would consider human garbage.”

In May, another defendant, Marcelle Kosman, allegedly tweeted that, “We will never know the scope of Galloway’s violence and can never fully account for it.”

Two months earlier, Kosman allegedly chimed in on a discussion about whether Galloway’s books should be taught as part of the UBC curriculum with this, “You cannot teach a rapist if you do not want to promote rape culture.”

According to the claim, in February, Glynnis Kirchmeier, a former UBC student, a sexual harassment complainant in another matter and activist, sneered at the notion that Cole and Galloway had had an affair. “That piece,” Kirchmeier allegedly said in reference to a story which mentioned the affair, “said Galloway had an ‘affair’, which we now know is what he calls raping.”

Gray once allegedly tweeted “#galloway…rapists should be held accountable” and just this July allegedly posted a picture of Cole’s art installation.

According to the statement of claim, a defendant named Emily Kellogg in April tweeted, “it takes a village to protect a rapist” with the hashtag #ubcaccountable, that being a group of writers and publishers who supported Galloway’s right to due process.

Of the same group, another defendant named Dana Kagis is alleged to have tweeted, “a whole lotta really big writers are super into supporting their rapist friend.”

The lawsuit says the defendants acted “with express malice arising from the extreme and vicious content of the publications,” either knowing they were false or not knowing if they were true, and because of their “attitudes of spite.”

Despite Boyd’s findings, the statement of claim says, the defendants “nevertheless continued and persisted in repeating false claims that the plaintiff was guilty of rape and sexual assault.”

The claim seeks unspecified general, special and aggravated damages and a permanent injunction “requiring the defendants to remove the defamatory words from the internet and every other public postings” and restraining them from any further publishing.


This is a guy who -- as a successful novelist and head of the creative writing department at UBC -- was a 'target' of female sexual advances, like Alber Schultz. the guy who founded Soulpepper Theatre.


He claims the this has destroyed his life, with reason.


Both were ghomeshi-ed' by a group of female zealots. Galloway's real sin was to break off the relationship because he was married. (She was too.) It's how sisterhood works ...
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