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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:36 am    Post subject: Canadians could be banned for life from US over legal pot Reply with quote

( looks like trudeau's legal pot policy might not be as pain free as first made out to be , as US now says it might ban anyone who admits to smoking the stuff which could turn out to be a lot of people and most of the younger population could be faced with a ban as pot us so common among that age group )



Canadians could be banned from the US forever if they smoke legal pot


By Benson Cook | Fox News


A man smokes marijuana during the annual 4/20 marijuana rally on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, April 20, 2018 (Reuters)

MONTREAL – In less than a month, Canada’s ten provinces and three territories will join nine American states and Washington D.C. that have fully legalized the recreational consumption of marijuana.


But even after October 17th, a Canadian citizen who drives from Vancouver to Seattle may be asked by a border agent if they have smoked pot before, and if they say yes, they could get banned from entry to the U.S. for life, even though pot is legal in Washington state.

Marijuana remains illegal under U.S. federal law, and U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) has long sought to keep those who consume the substance out of the country.


Agents screening foreign nationals attempting to enter the U.S. are therefore allowed to deem a foreigner inadmissible to the United States if they admit to having consumed marijuana in the past. Asking people about their drug use is entirely at the discretion of a border agent, and if someone lies or is unwilling to answer, agents are allowed to search a person’s belongings for evidence of past drug use, including their cell phone.


The assumption by the Canadian legal community had been that this border policy would come to an end following legalization. However, the U.S. government confirmed earlier this month that the policy will continue to apply to Canadians crossing into the U.S. after October 17th, and CBP has said that changes in a foreign country’s laws won’t impact their practices at home.


“This is U.S. law, and under U.S. federal law, marijuana remains illegal”, a spokesperson from CBP told Fox News.


Canada’s ministries of Justice and Public Safety, which are jointly overseeing the process of marijuana legalization, have said they are continuing to work closely with the U.S. government to ensure that there is as little disruption for Canadians travelling to the U.S. as possible once marijuana is legalized next month.


However, a spokesperson from Public Safety Canada reached by Fox News did not express optimism that the current situation at the border would change significantly soon.

“The United States has the sovereign jurisdiction to deal with people crossing the border into their country, just as we have the same powers for those entering into Canada,” the spokesperson said.


Getty (CBP confirmed to Fox News that anyone who works in the marijuana industry could be subject to a ban from entry to the U.S., whether they work for a government-run pot dispensary or one in the private sector)

However, they emphasized that “despite one-in-eight Canadians using cannabis today, 400,000 people move between our two countries every day almost entirely without incident.”

The Canadian government has long urged its citizens not to lie if a U.S. border agent asks about their pot use.

If an agent is able to find evidence from someone who claims they have not smoked pot before that indicates otherwise, they can still be banned from entry to the U.S. anyway — in this case, for lying to a customs officer.

Even Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who has long been open about his past use of marijuana, said this month that he would never lie to a U.S. border agent if he was asked if he had used cannabis.

Concerns have also been raised about how this policy will impact employees of marijuana stores in Canada, which will — in many provinces — be run by the government. Even if someone who works for the stores doesn’t consume marijuana themselves, a U.S. customs officer could find legal grounds to ban them from entry to America.

At least one American lawyer has argued that this could even apply to the premier - the Canadian equivalent of a governor - of a province, because of government-owned dispensaries in places including British Columbia and Québec.

CBP confirmed to Fox News that anyone who works in the marijuana industry could be subject to a ban from entry to the U.S., whether they work for a government-run pot dispensary or one in the private sector.

“Working in or facilitating the proliferation of the marijuana industry in Canada, or U.S. states where it is deemed legal, may affect a foreign national’s admissibility to the United States”, a spokesperson said. The spokesperson did not directly respond when asked by Fox News if elected officials in governments that run their own dispensary chains would be exempt from this policy.

In an interview with a Vancouver radio station last month, lawyer Len Saunders called that potential detail “the worst-case scenario” for Canadian provincial governments.

Despite the ban on pot smokers and pot sellers, the U.S. government seems to have less of a problem with actual pot entering the U.S. from Canada.

Weed imports from British Columbia-based Tilray Inc. received the okay from the D.E.A. several days ago, for use in a study on medical cannabis being conducted by University of California San Diego.

Canadians who end up getting hit with a lifetime ban at the border can apply for a waiver from CBP that will allow them to come to America. Once they apply for it — at a cost of over $500, there’s no guarantee that waiver will be approved.

Meanwhile, American expatriates living in Canada, as well as American tourists returning home from a trip to Canada, won’t have to worry about being locked out of their home country if they smoked legal pot north of the border: CBP’s policy only applies to foreign nationals.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018.....l-pot.html
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the way it is now!

Imho, this is over-the-top alarmism. It'll probably happen a bit, but it won't mean that Canadians won't be able to shop across the border. Trust me.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, its the way it is now. Nothing really changes......except for the idiot smarmy kid who thinks he can say yes and pass on thru.

Not going to happen . Oh well.

Funny story, my friend 45, wife two kids (young teens) head to Florida in the car about 10 yrs ago, Border Guard runs his info and says..."nope sorry , not getting in because you were arrested 30 yrs ago w a joint."

His wife, and kids, had no knowledge. Awkward turn around drive home.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised you haven't mounted your hobby horse to defend poor souls against Yankee bullying ...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yanks can do what they want at the border, so can we.

We can be dicks too if we want. Some Rights are suspended at borders .

CBSA , "do you own any handguns Sir? "

"yes"

"105MM or shorter?"
"yes"
"Sorry Sir, you are now permanently barred from Canada" ]

Methinks they would have a conniption.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How come you can't see that it's the same with commodities?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure I follow.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I mean. You are blind to the fact that commodities show up at the border and are subject to the same process. They don't have a right to get in.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL!

I didnt know commodities talked . Tell me what they say please.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They get by with a thick sheaf of documents.
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