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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:04 pm    Post subject: NDP MP Christine Moore Suspended Over Harassment Allegations Reply with quote

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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh is dealing with more harassment allegations within his own party, suspending Christine Moore from caucus hours after a report surfaced Tuesday alleging the Quebec MP harassed a military veteran.

“I take these allegations very seriously and I will be appointing and independent investigator to conduct a fair and full examination,” Singh said in a statement.

“While that process is ongoing, Mme Moore’s duties as an NDP MP, including participation on any committee, will be temporarily suspended. Once the work of the investigator has been completed, Mme Moore’s role in caucus will be re-evaluated.”


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Glen Kirkland was with the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry in Afghanistan a decade ago when he was maimed in an ambush that left three fellow soldiers dead. He was hit with shrapnel that left him with a damaged pancreas, and hearing and vision impairment.

While still taking various medications for his injuries, Kirkland was called to a June 2013 House of Commons standing committee on defence to testify about his treatment by the military.

Following his testimony, committee member Moore gave Kirkland her card and asked to meet with him to talk further at her office.

At Moore’s office, Kirkland said she offered him gin. He declined, saying he was still taking antidepressants and painkillers.

Moore persisted, Kirkland added, and he eventually relented and had several drinks. At that point, he realized her intentions were not professional in nature.

Kirkland said she “followed” him back to his Ottawa hotel that night where he said she stayed overnight.

Kirkland also alleges Moore began sending explicit messages and a month later she informed him that she arranged to meet up with him and his golfing buddies in Saskatchewan.

“This is not a thing. This is not happening,” Kirkland said he told Moore during her visit.

Weeks later, Kirkland said Moore arrived unannounced to his residence in Brandon, Man. He said he was “curt” with the MP, and she finally stopped communicating with him.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As we can see , women can be just like men ! Stupid, horny , lacking in common sense....

If this is how it went down, and I know nothing to the contrary, then she will likely die on this hill.
The fact he is a PPCLI means nothing to me, nor should it except to the degree on how they crossed paths.

I imagine the outcome will be the same as her temporary penalty . No committees , no extra perks and relegated to the sidelines in NDP land.

Not easy for a PPCLI guy to man up and out this. Good on him.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except women can't be just like men -- that's why we have Women's Olympics. They need extra help, and support. That, or they need the timers to get special training in how women experience time differently.

You have to ignore a lot to make a statement like TC just made.

For one thing, manginas like TC generalize the worst characteristics of the worst men on all men, and generalize the best characteristics of the best women to all women. His last post is an example. If a man does it, destroy the economics of his life. If a woman does it ... so what?

And, while he may be stupid, horny, and lacking in common sense, the rest of us are engaged in keeping the world functioning. Think of electricity. That's us, the white males. We make electricity happen. Just for starters. A lot more than horny and certainly not stupid -- not when compared to women.

The rogue elephant, barging around, maximizing the role of sex in Parliament, is the horny stupid busy-body who already has at least two notches on her belt going for a third. I refer to Christine Moore! She's the perp.

Is TC so 'horny and stupid' that he fails to see that he is condoning the behaviour in one case and condemning it in another, on the basis of sex! Can he be that horny?

He certainly has no moral argument, but his double standard (which he confuses with his bogus morals) is all he's got. How shallow do you have to be to get all sanctimonious about a double-standard?
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Singh is doing the correct thing by launching an investigation and suspending her while its pending.

However the folks in Ottawa have already set a pretty clear precedent for this;

If the statements are true, its likely a caucus expulsion.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are so-oo kind, Cosmo. Too kind.

The investigation is the cover-up, the face-saving mechanism.

He assumed guilt, he didn't require evidence, and then, when he got some push-back, his knees buckled. He deserves to be pummelled.

I'm telling you, we have a crisis of leadership in this country!

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Doesn't this prove my case, or at least exemplify what I have been arguing?

Right from the start, I have pointed to women's motives, and how these charges fit into the occupational terrorism that is growing, and widely afoot in the land -- particularly in the public service, where they only hire a white male if they can't find anybody else.

Feminism is like cancer. It just keeps growing -- virally. Right now, they are teaching the young people that all males are rapists (potentially) at the same time that they are welcoming girls into Boy Scouts.

It won't stop until it's stopped!
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These things are going on all over the place! The Speaker of the House in New Brunswick has had the same arbitrary treatment handed out to them. He is accused of a sexual offense.

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N.B. Speaker suspended from caucus amid harassment allegations
Government may take other steps, pending independent investigation, premier saysBobbi-Jean MacKinnon · CBC News · Posted: Apr 05, 2018 6:56 PM AT | Last Updated: April 5

The Speaker of the New Brunswick Legislature has been suspended from the Liberal caucus immediately amid allegations of harassment, Premier Brian Gallant announced Thursday night.

A former employee of the legislature made the allegations against Chris Collins, who also represents the riding Moncton Centre, Gallant said during a teleconference with media at 6:30 p.m. AT.

Gallant declined to say whether the former employee is a man or a woman, or whether the allegations are of a sexual nature, saying it is not his place to do so.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/.....-1.4607199


This guy is insisting they prove it. What they like to do is hire a lawyer practicing in one or another branch of 'human rights' law. But these people have the same mind-set as the accusers. They aren't objective. It isn't a fair proceeding.

We will soon see for ourselves. We know that Erin Weir was expelled from the party for 'failing to see non-verbal cues that women thought he was icky and didn't want to be in the same room with him. Isn't that a form of sexual harassment? Certainly Jagmeet thought so. and he's a lawyer, so he knows ...

We would'certainly expect that Moore would be expelled not for stalking the trooper, but for ruining people wantonly. She's just the shittiest human being in that pile of stone. Who would want to be in the room with her?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes;

Christie Blatchford is pulling no punches regarding Moore;

http://nationalpost.com/opinio.....self-to-be
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now I hope you and others (hello, queenmandy) will acknowledge that I have been right aboul all of these sexual persecutions!

The term "sexual harassment" is so vague that a man cannot know when he is in violation of the law. It entirely depends on the subjective reaction of the woman.

Tell me I'm wrong. Courts wrestle with the problem of sexual assault, but can't establish stable definitions. When this new legal definition came in, the 'operational definition' became "No means No." It was at least workable. (In that time, just ended, if a man was offending a woman with his sexual attention, the woman had to tell him no, and only if he persisted was he legally vulnerable.) But now the operational definition has mysteriously changed ... from "No means No" to "Affirmative consent".

Why? To get more convictions!

Affirmative consent means that a woman must say Yes before any sexual attention can be paid to her. The idea is that the swain has to request permission to advance his sexual cause each step of the way. It's easy to lampoon modern romance, but it turns the interlude in the hotel room of Christine Moore and the Liberal MP into a potental crime! (Moore told Trudeau he has two rapists amongst his MPs.)

This new standard essentially means that any woman can bring a lot of shit into any man's life anytime she wants to, and he is helpless against it. The Human Rights Commissions back up almost all of these cases and create special obligations that the rest of us have to respect -- based very often on race, sexual preference or creed. That's a fact. They are building racism into law in Canada. It's that simple.

Don't think of these laws getting much application from in-the-moment young love ... except as revenge, perhaps. This is the point.

But it isn't left there. To get a fuller picture, you have to go to the educational system ... where ever newer ways for young women to be 'offended' by 'toxic masculinity' itself ... and fed into the civil service as "equity recipients" ... and soon enough, you have critical masses inside organizations who are implementing their priorities over those of he populace.

It's an ugly picture that nobody seems to want to even accept!

It will only get worse if you ignore it.
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