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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject: The Drift to War ... Reply with quote

Somebody is obviously stirring up the public into two minutes of hate for Russia and its leader, Vladimir Putin. First came the world famous poisoning of the Russian double-agents who were traded back to the British. No less than Elizabeth May herself certified that Russians were the obvious culprits, and they knew that because of the chemical signature of the nerve agents used.

I dunno. Maybe. One wonders where they got the sample to test.

Internationally recognized lab concludes nerve agent not produced by Russia
Zero Hedge - APRIL 14, 2018

Somebody has some explaining to do… or did the Syrian airstrikes just ‘distract’ the citizenry from the reality surrounding the Skripal poisoning.

Remember how we were told by the politicians (not the scientists) that a deadly Novichok nerve agent – produced by Russia – was used in the attempted assassination of the Skripals? Remember the 50 questions (here and here) we had surrounding the ‘facts’ as Theresa May had laid them out? Ever wonder why, given how utterly deadly we were told this chemical was, the Skripals wondered around for a few hours after being ‘infected’ and then days later, survived with no chronic damage?

Well those doubts may well have just been answered as according to the independent Swiss state Spiez lab, the substance used on Sergei Skripal was an agent called BZ, which was never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states.

RT reports that Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, citing the results of the examination conducted by a Swiss chemical lab that worked with the samples that London handed over to the Organisation for the Prohibition of the Chemical Weapons (OPCW), that Sergei Skripal, a former Russian double agent, and his daughter Yulia were poisoned with an incapacitating toxin known as 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate or BZ.

The Swiss center sent the results to the OPCW.

However, the UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance used to poison the Skripals in its final report without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document, the Russian foreign minister added.

He went on to say that Moscow would ask the OPCW about its decision to not include any other information provided by the Swiss in its report.

On a side note, the Swiss lab is also an internationally recognized center of excellence in the field of the nuclear, biological, and chemical protection and is one of the five centers permanently authorized by the OPCW.

The Russian foreign minister said that London refused to answer dozens of “very specific” questions asked by Moscow about the Salisbury case, as well as to provide any substantial evidence that could shed light on the incident.

Instead, the UK accused Russia of failing to answer its own questions, he said, adding that, in fact, London did not ask any questions but wanted Moscow to admit that it was responsible for the delivery of the chemical agent to the UK.

And then there was the inexplicable case of the evil Assad gratuitously poisoning some of his own people as a way to petulantly stick his thumb in the eyes in of the Americans as they get ready to leave Syria. That story, too, is falling apart.

OPCW Investigators Arrive In Damascus As Moscow Insists "White Helmets" Staged Gas Attack
by Tyler Durden
Sat, 04/14/2018 - 14:15

The US-led coalition's missiles have already blasted craters into the ground near Damascus and Homs (and while the attacks produced no fatalities, the US and Russia have presented dramatically different accounts of strike), but investigators from the United Nation's chemical weapons watchdog are only just arriving in Damascus to begin processing the scene of the brutal chemical weapons attack in Douma last week that left at least 70 people dead.

Both Syria and Russia called for an OPCW inquiry into the attack, while Russia has claimed that it has evidence US-backed "white helmets" - a US-funded "humanitarian" NGO long applauded by the mainstream media for its efforts - had a hand in fabricating evidence. The US State Department, meanwhile, has asserted that it has "proof" the Syrian government was behind the attack (though it has neglected to release any details about this purported "proof" to the public). Furthermore, the US has blamed Russia for failing to ensure that chemical weapons stockpiles in Syria had been destroyed, per RT.

The agency was set up to oversee and guarantee the destruction of chemical weapons and to investigate instances of their use. The agency will examine samples taken from attack victims to determine the chemical used as it tries to uncover the perpetrator. Syria, Russia, the UK, the US, France and Russia are all members of the organization.

This isn't the first time OPCW has visited Syria in recent memory. It carried out a similar investigation in 2017, when the organization found that sarin or a sarin-like substance was employed in the town of Khan Shaykhun, but did not undertake an on-the-ground inspection of the site.

Evidence put forward in the agency’s report revealed the gas was most likely released to the north of the settlement. However, it did not attribute blame to the April 2017 attack, which was carried out in an area not controlled by the government of the Syrian Arab Republic at the time.

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Meanwhile, the Russian Ministry of Defense says it has proof that the gas attack in Douma was staged to give the West an excuse to justify a military intervention in Syria, according to Major-General Igor Konashenkov.

I don't know what the truth is in either case, but particularly the Skripal case is really turning out to hurt Teresa May. The tie to Russia is the similarity -- in people's minds -- to a similar killing in London. But the victims are recovering, and the evidence is turning out to be equivocal. Can it be that Her Majesty's government in Britain has created a false flag event? (A false flag event is where one belligerant power commits an atrocity against itself or its allies, and the uses that diplomatically, or as a excuse for war.)

I think it's the times we're in.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What explains these "false flag" events?

The Syrian thing is easy. Somebody wants to keep the Americans in Syria. The actual use of gas has not, to this point, been verified. It ought to be easy. Why would anyone want to keep the Americans in Syria, and what would they gain? And who, amongst them, has the ability to pull this off?

Got me, but there is a blue-ribbon committee examining whether gas was used or not. That will be interesting.

The London poisoning is a little more threatening. It is looking as if the Russian assassin theory isn't holding up. This seems to have been sponsored by a rogue element of the British state. Who else can get nerve agents?

I think the only firm conclusion you can draw is that there is a "war party" embedded in the hierarchy of the British state. There is one in Washington, too.


On the bright side, there's this hint of a coming announcement ...

North and South Korea reportedly set to announce official end to war
Ahead of a summit next week between North Korean premier Kim Jong Un and South Korean President Moon Jae-In, lawmakers from the neighboring states were thought to be negotiating the details of a joint statement that could outline an end to the military conflict between the two countries.
Pyongyang and Seoul have technically been at war since the 1950-1953 Korean conflict ended with a truce — and not a peace treaty.

If true, it seems to me that North Korea is doing the equivalent of Gorbechev's tearing down of the Berlin Wall. The unification of Korea might be on the table.
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