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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another howler. DeBlaisio is one of the sternest advocates of gun control, and guns, of course, are illegal in New York City.

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De Blasio aide busted with gun in car
By Shawn Cohen, Larry Celona and Bruce Golding April 8, 2018 | 11:22am | Updated
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De Blasio aide busted with gun in car

Reagan Stevens, a deputy director in the Mayor’s Office of Criminal Justice, and two young men were arrested for illegal weapons possession while sitting in a double-parked car near the scene of a Saturday night shooting in Queens, cops said.

A loaded, 9mm semi-automatic pistol with its serial number defaced was hidden in the car’s glovebox, and there was a spent shell casing on the floor near Stevens’ feet in the rear of the 2002 dark red Infiniti SUV, law enforcement sources said.

The trio’s arrest followed a burst of five gunshots that activated an NYPD “ShotSpotter” device in Jamaica at 9:42 p.m. Saturday, sources said.

The listening device pinpointed the shooting at 174th Street and 109th Avenue, and private surveillance video captured the muzzle flashes of five shots fired from the Infiniti, sources said.

The handgun seized by cops has an eight-round magazine and held three cartridges — two in the magazine and one in the chamber, sources said.

Stevens, 42, and the two men — who cops say also had knives on them — were awaiting arraignment Sunday night in Queens Criminal Court, where her mom, Deborah Stevens Modica, has been a judge since her appointment in 1997.

Her stepdad, Salvatore Modica, is an acting Queens Supreme Court justice. They both declined to comment.

Stevens, who lives in Brooklyn’s Bay Ridge, manages youth and strategic initiatives, and her main job is implementing a 2017 state law that will raise the age at which kids can be prosecuted as adults for non-violent crimes from 16 to 18.

Stevens, who previously worked for the Brooklyn District Attorney’s Office and makes more than $90,000 a year, was immediately suspended without pay, said Office of Criminal Justice spokesman Patrick Gallahue.

“We take these allegations very seriously,” he added.

Mayor Bill de Blasio is an outspoken supporter of strict gun control laws, and last month, he joined a student walkout in the wake of the mass shooting that killed 17 students and staffers at a Parkland, Fla., high school.

Stevens was arrested around 10:25 p.m. near the corner of 177th Street and 106th Avenue along with driver Caesar Forbes, 25, and front-seat passenger Montel Hughes, 24, both of whom live in the neighborhood.

Hughes’ sister, Jade, 17, told The Post that her brother and Forbes were longtime friends and that he recently became acquainted with Stevens.

She said she didn’t know anything about that relationship other than that it wasn’t romantic.

Stevens, Hughes and Forbes were each charged with two counts of criminal possession of a weapon — one for the gun being loaded, another for its illegally obscured serial number — because no one admitted owning the pistol, sources said.

Cops were also weighing charges involving its firing, based on the video that traces the shots to the car, sources said.

Forbes and Hughes also were charged with criminal possession of a weapon related to the knives they allegedly were carrying, and Forbes was also ticketed for double parking, cops said.

Hughes’ rap sheet lists nine prior arrests, six of which are sealed. The others include an October 2010 bust in Queens on robbery and weapons charges, and a July 2016 arrest on firearm, trespassing and harassment charges, sources said.

Stevens has a sealed 2015 arrest that stemmed from allegations of driving illegally, while Forbes has no criminal record, sources said.

Stevens was released on her own recognizance, according to a spokeswoman for the Queens DA’s office. Meanwhile, Forbes was held on $3,500 bail or $7,500 bond, and Hughes was held on $10,000 bail or $20,000 bond. They are due back in court on April 24.

Additional reporting by Stephanie Pagones, Reuven Fenton and Yoav Gonen
https://nypost.com/2018/04/08/director-of-citys-office-of-criminal-justice-busted-for-gun-possession/


They didn't just have a gun in the car -- they had a loaded gun with the serial numbers defaced that was still hot in the car after a shooting with someone on the street! Just like they were waiting for the cocaine to arrive.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( its revealed in this article that a petition against this bill now has over 62,000 signatures although its doubtful trudeau cares as this bill is clearly for political reasons and he could care less what the legal gun owners though )


Gun bill battle grows after ‘Canada’s NRA’ reference in Liberal fundraiser

By Tim Naumetz. Published on Apr 12, 2018 5:27am


THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jonathan Hayward


A national coalition of gun owners is furious after the Liberal party disclosed the coalition was the advocacy group referenced as “Canada’s NRA” in a Liberal fundraising blitz over government gun-control legislation last month.

As firearm owner reaction to the bill grows, the popularity of a Commons E-Petition attacking the legislation suggests the battle over the firearm initiative is just beginning.

The Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights (CCFR) discovered they are the “Canada’s NRA” a Liberal fundraising email referred to after a coalition member challenged the unusual fundraising blitz two days after the government tabled its gun-control bill on March 20.

After listing several new measures contained in the legislation, Bill C-71, the fundraising email went on to say that Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and his party “want to steadily weaken gun safety laws in Canada,” and that Conservative policies would make it easier for handguns and assault rifles to end up in the hands of criminals.

The email quoted former RCMP commissioner Bob Paulson as having said: “There’s a rabid firearms lobby that has their hooks into the Conservatives, and they’re aggressive.”

“They’re taking orders from Canada’s NRA. And we can’t let them,” the email said of the Conservatives.

The U.S. National Rifle Association, the biggest gun lobby in the United States, is prevented by its own constitution from funding gun-freedom movements in Canada.

The CBC, however, quoted one of Canada’s leading gun lobbyists in a 2010 report that exposed other ways the NRA supported opposition to a national long gun registry the former Liberal government of Jean Chretien established in the 1990s.

Responding to an email from Robert Anderson, the CCFR member who challenged the Liberal claim of a Canadian NRA linked to the Conservatives, a Liberal party fundraising coordinator defended the statement.

“Canada does have its own version of the NRA, known as the CCFR, and lobbyists for this and other groups are fighting to loosen gun laws and increase the threat to Canadians nationwide,” party coordinator Ryan Spero wrote back.

The CCFR’s vice president for public relations posted Spero’s email on the coalition’s web site and called the NRA reference “bizarre.”

“The Liberal government has resorted to quite literally lying to Canadians in ‘Chicken Little’ the sky is falling fundraiser emails,” vice-president Tracey Wilson wrote in reaction to the Liberal letter.

Wilson’s denunciation of the Liberals included claims Spero made in his own email to Anderson, including a statement that the “overwhelming majority of guns used in gun crime in Canada were obtained legally.”

A B.C. government task force reported in 2017 that up to 60 per cent of handguns seized at homicide or crime scenes in the province originated in Canada, after handgun thefts in Canada had risen steadily from 2013 to 2016, while the proportion of crime scene handguns smuggled from the U.S. declined.

The president of the CCFR said the Liberal party targeted the coalition because of growth in support since its formation in 2015.

“They’re calling us ‘Canada’s NRA’ because we’re currently the most influential pro-gun group in the country,” coalition president Rod Giltaca said.

“We’re the ones that spent five solid days on the Hill when this bill dropped,” said Giltaca, a registered lobbyist for the coalition.

Wilson, also a registered in-house lobbyist for the coalition, reported 13 communications with MPs on the day Bill C-71 was tabled and in another round of lobbying two days later.

The lobbying reports included communications with Scheer and 13 other Conservative MPS, as well as New Brunswick Liberal MP TJ Harvey, the chair of the Commons all-party rural caucus.

Wilson later reported lobbying communications on March 29 with Liberal MP Mark Holland, Parliamentary Secretary to Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale, and communications the same day with Pontiac, Que., Liberal MP William Amos.

Wilson reported lobbying communications with Calgary MP Michelle Rempel on March 28.

Giltaca — who owns a tactical firearm training centre in Langley, B.C., and is a certified instructor for non-restricted and restricted gun acquisition licences — said he has no connections with any U.S. firearm advocacy organizations, including the NRA.

The Liberal party did not respond to a request for a comment or explanation about the emails.

Quebec gun-control advocates who also obtained a copy of the Liberal fundraiser, and forwarded a copy to iPolitics at the time, criticized the fundraising blitz as a partisan exploitation of gun-control supporters.

Meanwhile, a Commons E-Petition denouncing the Liberal gun bill and sponsored by Alberta Conservative MP Rachael Harder had accumulated more than 62,000 signatures by Wednesday, 13 days after it appeared on the House of Commons E-Petition web page.


https://ipolitics.ca/2018/04/12/gun-bill-battle-grows-after-canadas-nra-reference-in-liberal-fundraiser/
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this working? Is it possible to demonize the nice polite (white male cis-gendered) gun owners of Canada?

To get a Canadian woman riled up about men, you'd probably do better with bitching about manspreading. Why are you bringing that up? you might ask. Well, it sure isn't about reducing the murder rate in Canada -- it's already reduced!

(There are "hot spots", it has to be admitted. But that's involves multicultural Canada and forbidden topics ... I mean, if the newspapers could include the actual social details of the perps ... well ... look for yourself:

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca.....wanted.php

The Liberals are (obviously) repeating another of the tired themes of the past. It seems like they pay more attention to American headlines than they do to the actual concerns of Canadians. They must feel they are appealing to their base, and I suppose they are.

To me, they increasingly come off like a group who just want power, who just want the expense accounts, the limos, the long nights making everybody else's decisions for them ... but with no vision of the future', no workable set of priorities. They don't know what to do with the power. To the extent that they do have priorities, they come from ideologies more-or-less only current in educational institutions ... Idealism run amok.

I can almost hear the band striking up: "We all live in a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine ..."
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As we continue to skirt the forbidden topic ... who really commits the gun crimes in your neighbourhood, and who complies with the law.

We were recently treated to a demonstration of the most noble denunciations by the annointed ones ... who generally never been at the wrong end of a pointed gun. The Bouchie case was big news ... this, not so much. It's all about narratives.

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Oshawa kidnapping leads to arrest during 'high-risk takedown'

Katherine DeClerq, CP24.com
Published Monday, April 16, 2018 3:02PM EDT

A Pickering man has been arrested following “a high-risk takedown” connected to the alleged kidnapping and assault of an 18-year-old from Oshawa, police say.

Durham Regional Police say the victim was picked up from his home on Friday around 2 a.m. by known acquaintances who allegedly demanded money from him.

The victim told police he was assaulted and held inside the vehicle for about four hours before being released. He suffered serious injuries and received treatment at a hospital.

Members of the Durham police’s Gun and Gang Unit were called in to aid in the investigation after the suspect vehicle was spotted in Pickering. Police say they apprehended a 20-year-old suspect during “a high-risk takedown” and seized a restricted firearm from the vehicle.

A suspect identified as Pickering resident Usman Ali has been charged with kidnapping using a firearm, assault with a weapon, possession of a weapon for committing an offence and several other firearms-related offences.

Police say two suspects are still outstanding. They urge anyone with information about the incident to contact them at 1-888-579-1520 ext. 2741.
https://www.cp24.com/news/oshawa-kidnapping-leads-to-arrest-during-high-risk-takedown-1.3887219


There is a picture of one of the guns ... a semi-automatic futuristic looking hand gun. Looks small and deadly.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
As we continue to skirt the forbidden topic ... who really commits the gun crimes in your neighborhood, and who complies with the law.


I believe we had a pretty good discussion about a similar topic elsewhere;

There is no question the majority of violent crimes committed with handguns in Urban Centers in Canada are usually committed with weapons that are not registered in Canada.

If the purpose of legislation is the curb gun violence then it must have a CBSA component either additional officers, screenings, technologies otherwise its effect will usually be minimal for the purpose of reducing hand gun violence as you are not addressing the primary source of the weapons.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might there be implications for our immigration policy, I wonder? Hmmmm?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( an update on the Ontario gun amnesty , so far in Barrie Ontario a city of 140,000 only 22 firearms ( weapons according to author ) have been turned in . but that has to be drop in the bucket numbers compared to the number of legal guns in barrie , some gun owners are known to have more than 22 guns in 1 collection )


22 weapons, over 1,500 rounds of ammunition recovered during amnesty program


Restricted, prohibited and vintage weapons surrendered through appointments made with Barrie police so far in April

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about 17 hours ago by: BarrieToday Staff

NEWS RELEASE
BARRIE POLICE SERVICE
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The Barrie Police Service has safely secured 22 weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition midway through a month-long Gun Amnesty campaign.
Since the launch of the gun amnesty, 22 items were recovered through appointments made with Barrie Police officers. These included restricted, prohibited and vintage weapons. Just over 1,500 pieces of ammunition were surrendered during this period.

The gun amnesty will be in effect until Monday, April 30, 2018 for any Barrie resident who wishes to voluntarily surrender unwanted or illegally-owned firearms, weapons, accessories, or ammunition. The public is reminded that no amnesty is offered for people who turn in weapons that have been used in the commission of a crime and no anonymous submissions will be accepted.


Interested gun owners are strongly urged to call the Barrie Police Service at 705-725-728-5629 to arrange for officers to attend and safely retrieve the weapons. Gun owners residing within OPP jurisdiction can contact OPP at 1-888-310-1122 or use the OPP website at opp.ca/gunamnesty

Under NO circumstances should anyone deliver guns or ammunition directly to police facilities.


Did you know
•The Gun Amnesty does not prevent or limit the transfer of ownership or sale of firearms to and by third parties who have a valid Possession and Acquisition Licence .
•During the amnesty, police will not recommend weapons-related Criminal Code charges that might otherwise apply to people who are turning in firearms and ammunition.
•Although a majority of firearms surrendered to police will be destroyed, a number of firearms may be retained for historical, educational or training purposes.
•All municipal police services in Ontario are participating in the Gun Amnesty.
•For more information on the Canadian Firearms Program visit the RCMP's national website. There you will find some general safety information, as well as information on Inherited Firearms.

https://www.barrietoday.com/police/22-weapons-over-1500-rounds-of-ammunition-recovered-during-amnesty-program-896809
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( so far only 267 firearms have been turned in province wide , I take issue with them being referred to as weapons . as a shotgun used for duck hunting years ago that was in someones basement has never been used in a crime and is legally not a weapon unless it was used in a crime , its simply a hunting rifle )


267 weapons turned over to police mid-way through gun amnesty: OPP

Gun amnesty program hits halfway point


The Canadian Press
Published Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:37PM EDT



Provincial police say nearly 270 weapons have been turned over to the force mid-way through its month-long gun amnesty.

OPP say as of Monday, it had received 218 gun amnesty calls and officers picked up 267 items, including restricted, prohibited, replica, and vintage weapons.

They also say more than 5,200 pieces of ammunition have been surrendered, including a quantity of hollow-point bullets.

The gun amnesty is in effect until April 30 for any Ontario resident who wishes to voluntarily surrender unwanted or illegally-owned firearms, weapons, accessories, or ammunition.

However, no amnesty is offered for people who turn in weapons that have been used in the commission of a crime and no anonymous submissions will be accepted.


OPP say they will make appointments to pick up the weapons and under no circumstances should anyone try to deliver guns or ammunition directly to police facilities.

https://barrie.ctvnews.ca/267-weapons-turned-over-to-police-mid-way-through-gun-amnesty-opp-1.3889005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I take issue with them being referred to as weapons .


Huh?

Best give up speaking English I guess.

That is EXACTLY what it is. A weapon.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends how you want to use it. If you want to use it to settle an argument, it's a weapon. If you want to keep a racoon away from your chickens, it's a tool.

The point is to always keep your eyes on the forbidden topic -- who actually uses guns as weapons and who actually uses them as tools.

Perhaps this is a problem best addressed (in Canada) through our immigration policies. What say you? Don't let the forbidden topic deter you -- this is a 'safe space'. Right, TC?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
It depends how you want to use it. If you want to use it to settle an argument, it's a weapon. If you want to keep a racoon away from your chickens, it's a tool.


And you can line right up behind him for english lessons.

Its a weapon, no matter what you use it for.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that would be true of knives as well?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suppose that would be true of knives as well?

Knives , bats, brass knuckles,cutlass , missiles....lots and lots of weapons.

And a gun amazingly !
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine butter knives would be a weapon, as well?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
I imagine butter knives would be a weapon, as well?

Is there a point to this or are you still stuck on stupid?

My my....someone makes an silly error about not knowing what a weapon is and you get all triggered.
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