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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox News reporting that FBI used the Steele Dossier to get FISA warrant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHCXjeoiFII

This is the lead story on Hannity, and it's confirmed by Sara Carter of the Wall Street Journal. It's the first item on the broadcast. The actual claim is that the "dossier" was part of that application.

Still to be clarified: Did the FBI pay for the dossier?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been developments, most notably the delivery of 1.2 million documents and a report of the Inspector General of (I believe) the IRS scandal, which is another pile of stinking dung. That means the committee staff is searching through this mountain of material, looking for evidence of criminality (or otherwise). It mvolves the DoJ, but under Eric Holder rather than Loretta Lynch.

Tonight, Trump announced his Fake News Awards. The top award went to Paul Krugman. Krugman predicted the markets would never recover if Trump got hold of the reins. Two or three days after the Dow breaks 26,000, Trump drags this humiliating bit of Krugman's record into the spotlight, the purpose being to rub his nose in it, publicly. (This will probably take some of the glitter off this Nobel prize winning economist's reputation.)

He then went on to highlight some other honourable mentions the judges felt were worth mentioning. CNN was excoriated in the process.

Two hours after his tweets, he had 42,000 "Likes" and 17,000 re-tweets. His announcement of the Fake News Award was supposed to be on his website, but the traffic took it down!

Paul Krugman is now the Kathy Griffin of economic pundits!

There is a lot of whispering, the suggestion that this award is a set-up for the arrests that the Trump crowd hope to see. Most vulnerable? Some DoJ officials -- probably people like Comey, McCabe, Strozk, and Lynch.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gossip networks are obviously abuzz in Washington, about the big document dump and other work of the Congressional committees is coming to a kind of fruition, But this is still unsourced hearsay at this point. If it gets out to the public, and shows far greater interference in the electoral process than previously thought, even by conspiracy theorists.

There must be a huge fight, behind the scenes, over the release of this material.

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"Explosive", "Shocking" And "Alarming" FISA Memo Set To Rock DC, "End Mueller Investigation"
by Tyler Durden
Thu, 01/18/2018 - 22:25

All hell is breaking loose in Washington D.C. tonight after a four-page memo detailing extensive FISA court abuse was made available to the entire House of Representatives Thursday. The contents of the memo are so explosive, says Journalist Sara Carter, that it could lead to the removal of senior officials in the FBI and the Department of Justice and the end of Robert Mueller's special counsel investigation.

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These sources say the report is “explosive,” stating they would not be surprised if it leads to the end of Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel investigation into President Trump and his associates. -Sara Carter


A source close to the matter tells Fox News that "the memo details the Intelligence Committee's oversight work for the FBI and Justice, including the controversy over unmasking and FISA surveillance." An educated guess by anyone who's been paying attention for the last year leads to the obvious conclusion that the report reveals extensive abuse of power and highly illegal collusion between the Obama administration, the FBI, the DOJ and the Clinton Campaign against Donald Trump and his team during and after the 2016 presidential election.

Lawmakers who have seen the memo are calling for its immediate release, while the phrases "explosive," "shocking," "troubling," and "alarming" have all been used in all sincerity. One congressman even likened the report's details to KGB activity in Russia. “It is so alarming the American people have to see this,” Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan told Fox News. “It's troubling. It is shocking,” North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows said. “Part of me wishes that I didn't read it because I don’t want to believe that those kinds of things could be happening in this country that I call home and love so much.”

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Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., offered the motion on Thursday to make the Republican majority-authored report available to the members.

“The document shows a troubling course of conduct and we need to make the document available, so the public can see it,” said a senior government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the document. “Once the public sees it, we can hold the people involved accountable in a number of ways.”

The government official said that after reading the document “some of these people should no longer be in the government.” -Sara Carter

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-18/explosive-shocking-and-alarming-fisa-memo-set-rock-dc-end-mueller-investigation
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clinton Foundation vulnerability ...

This video gives a brief rundown of the gathering storm of corruption that is likely to be revealed in the upcoming weeks. The highlights:
* The total 'donations' to the Clinton Foundation and all of its spin-offs, is about $100 billion.
* Major donors were able to write off their donations' as business expenses, but if (as seems likely) the Clinton Foundation is found to not be a charity, those tax returns have to be re-filed, with the donation coming out of after-tax revenue. This, alone, could be enough to motivate people to hire an assassin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VMxoLzoMwI

This is only one legal approach that threatens Abadin and the Clinton family, including Chelsea, all of whom were on salary to the Foundation. (Chelsea's wedding was paid for by the Clinton Foundation.) But there is also the investigation going on from the DoJ and State Department, with the emails, the security lapses, and the pay-to-play operation. That path goes through James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, McCabe et al and Loretta Lynch.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the feeling that there is a huge struggle going on in the courts over the control of information. It may already be too late. The rumours suggest that the next revelations will be bombshells, but the bombshells don't arrive. At least, so far ...

This is a long video -- 35 minutes -- by a real legal mind who has worked in the White House. It's a legal analysis of the nest of political operatives that were running the DoJ and the FBI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuhI7zeanQg

This second video looks at what is known about the finances of the Clinton Foundation, and it's various spin-off charities. The man being interviewed is a professional financial investigator. This video is almost an hour long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrTi0WMciJg
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the struggle in the courts is over. The problem is that the Shumer Shutdown is where the media spotlight is at the moment. Some of the American pundits are speculating that the Democrats are doing this to dilute the impact of the FBI revelations to come.

If that's true, expect the Democrats to keep the shutdown going as long as possible. Which won't be that long, because the electorate doesn't like it.

I think the playbook says that the electorate 'blames' the Republicans for these shutdowns -- but now it's the Democrats that are the obstructionists. Trump showed the world that he'd sign anything about DACA as part of a deal where they ended chain migration and provided the money for the wall. And the Democrats came out of the process saying they couldn't possibly bring themselves to work out a deal with someone who used shocking language like that!

I think that explanation is weak. There is a lot of sympathy for the DACA kids, and the Democrats are using them as a bargaining chip. It isn't certain that the voters are going to accept the Democrat's version this time.

This is Trump's air-traffic controllers case. This is where he shows the Democrats who can take the heat. The shutdown will rouse a new segment of the population. If the DACA thing is cancelled, it means it will be an election issue, and the Democrats will focus on that. Trump will move on to his infrastructure bill, which they also will oppose.

What isn't calculated into the picture is that the Republicans almost certainly have their hands on some scandalous evidence that they are managing for maximum impact. And they are using this threat to force the Democrats into unpopular moves. They will actually be going into the election supporting Obama-style immigration, and opposing job creation aimed at poor whites and blacks.

And meanwhile, there will be the drip, drip, drip of new evidence that the Democrats are hopelessly corrupt.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:

This is Trump's air-traffic controllers case. This is where he shows the Democrats who can take the heat. The shutdown will rouse a new segment of the population. If the DACA thing is cancelled, it means it will be an election issue, and the Democrats will focus on that. Trump will move on to his infrastructure bill, which they also will oppose.


I hadn't really thought of this as the "Air-Traffic Controller" moment, but I think it has the potential to be apt.

What I will say for the GOP is over the last week they have been on message and the way the President has made this entire shutdown almost entirely into a DACA issue (if it is or isn't) certainly has spread the blame more universally.

The challenge the Democrats have is they need a win for their base;
If the President walks into the midterms with the tax plan and infrastructure plan in place with the Economy still being fairly robust, the GOP has a strong Economic case to make to the electorate.

From a practicality stand-point the Democrats agreeing to "The Wall" in exchange for concessions on DACA would be a win for the Democrats

You have 600 mi of barrier in place already with a 2000 mi border.
Its also not exactly a new concept as the Secure Fence Act was passed with a strong majority in both houses in 2006. (With the last two Democrat nominees for President voting in favor)

The Democrats could get a win on DACA for their base and rely on typical government inefficiency to delay the wall long enough for them to cancel it.

The issue is that the concept of resisting seems to supersede to concept of legislating.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really surprised they have folded so quickly! Isn't it time for the leading Democrats to smarten up, at least to the degree of giving up on the idea that Trump is (a) stupid or (b) incompetent. As a political drama, Trump has pulled off a masterstroke. The open meeting, which seemed to be orchestrated to placate the public about his 'stupidity and incompetence' turned out to be an illustration of how impossibly out of reach a reasonable compromise seems to be -- and why.

It set up Trump's narrative.

I am anything but sure that everybody saw it like I did, but the poll results told Schumer -- no prisoner of consistency -- to cut his losses. He's probably right on that score. Most Americans want (a) to make an exception for the DACA people, (b) have a secure border and (c) end or limit chain migration. That's precisely what Trump is going for.

The Democrats are so-oo buffaloed by Trump, it seems like they are playing the game at a lower level. Like a women's hockey national team going up against the Blackhawks.

The world has been polarized 'to the point where an inbred political class has formed, which has dissociated itself from the mainstream of the electorate. In the US, their attention is determined by lobbyists as much the electorate. This attitude has spread to the management class as a whole.

Put it this way -- if you think the big problems facing society are climate change and finding an equal place for women in the boardrooms of Canada, you are in one camp. In the other camp are people who respond to the idea of jobs and are wrestling with the problem of getting a house.

In Canada, think of it this way. Conservatives have come to think of themselves as being the audience at the Monk Debates, or the people at the shareholders' meeting of Loblaws ....

But that isn't their base. This is a closer representation of their base.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_540950&feature=iv&src_vid=ezUvGhT4KwM&v=WR7RlK-YvNg

We can see it more clearly in the USA, because we can be more objective about it. From my eyes, the shrewdest of the shrewd, Shrewd Schumer, seems totally at sea when confronted with the creation (at least in part) of the deplorables. That shows us that the old playbook is worn out. But it's at work in Canada, too, but the more you're locked into a political stance, the harder it is to see.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
I am really surprised they have folded so quickly! Isn't it time for the leading Democrats to smarten up, at least to the degree of giving up on the idea that Trump is (a) stupid or (b) incompetent. As a political drama, Trump has pulled off a masterstroke. The open meeting, which seemed to be orchestrated to placate the public about his 'stupidity and incompetence' turned out to be an illustration of how impossibly out of reach a reasonable compromise seems to be -- and why.


Again to give the GOP credit, they held the line.

The consistent message was that the President was willing to work with the Democrats on DACA but he needed border security addressed when the Government was shut down over DACA the real brilliance was to immediately market this as the Democrats shutting down Government access to citizens to secure legislation for non-citizens.

The challenge now becomes what the deal on DACA looks like.
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