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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox News reporting that FBI used the Steele Dossier to get FISA warrant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHCXjeoiFII

This is the lead story on Hannity, and it's confirmed by Sara Carter of the Wall Street Journal. It's the first item on the broadcast. The actual claim is that the "dossier" was part of that application.

Still to be clarified: Did the FBI pay for the dossier?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been developments, most notably the delivery of 1.2 million documents and a report of the Inspector General of (I believe) the IRS scandal, which is another pile of stinking dung. That means the committee staff is searching through this mountain of material, looking for evidence of criminality (or otherwise). It mvolves the DoJ, but under Eric Holder rather than Loretta Lynch.

Tonight, Trump announced his Fake News Awards. The top award went to Paul Krugman. Krugman predicted the markets would never recover if Trump got hold of the reins. Two or three days after the Dow breaks 26,000, Trump drags this humiliating bit of Krugman's record into the spotlight, the purpose being to rub his nose in it, publicly. (This will probably take some of the glitter off this Nobel prize winning economist's reputation.)

He then went on to highlight some other honourable mentions the judges felt were worth mentioning. CNN was excoriated in the process.

Two hours after his tweets, he had 42,000 "Likes" and 17,000 re-tweets. His announcement of the Fake News Award was supposed to be on his website, but the traffic took it down!

Paul Krugman is now the Kathy Griffin of economic pundits!

There is a lot of whispering, the suggestion that this award is a set-up for the arrests that the Trump crowd hope to see. Most vulnerable? Some DoJ officials -- probably people like Comey, McCabe, Strozk, and Lynch.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gossip networks are obviously abuzz in Washington, about the big document dump and other work of the Congressional committees is coming to a kind of fruition, But this is still unsourced hearsay at this point. If it gets out to the public, and shows far greater interference in the electoral process than previously thought, even by conspiracy theorists.

There must be a huge fight, behind the scenes, over the release of this material.

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"Explosive", "Shocking" And "Alarming" FISA Memo Set To Rock DC, "End Mueller Investigation"
by Tyler Durden
Thu, 01/18/2018 - 22:25

All hell is breaking loose in Washington D.C. tonight after a four-page memo detailing extensive FISA court abuse was made available to the entire House of Representatives Thursday. The contents of the memo are so explosive, says Journalist Sara Carter, that it could lead to the removal of senior officials in the FBI and the Department of Justice and the end of Robert Mueller's special counsel investigation.

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These sources say the report is “explosive,” stating they would not be surprised if it leads to the end of Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel investigation into President Trump and his associates. -Sara Carter


A source close to the matter tells Fox News that "the memo details the Intelligence Committee's oversight work for the FBI and Justice, including the controversy over unmasking and FISA surveillance." An educated guess by anyone who's been paying attention for the last year leads to the obvious conclusion that the report reveals extensive abuse of power and highly illegal collusion between the Obama administration, the FBI, the DOJ and the Clinton Campaign against Donald Trump and his team during and after the 2016 presidential election.

Lawmakers who have seen the memo are calling for its immediate release, while the phrases "explosive," "shocking," "troubling," and "alarming" have all been used in all sincerity. One congressman even likened the report's details to KGB activity in Russia. “It is so alarming the American people have to see this,” Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan told Fox News. “It's troubling. It is shocking,” North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows said. “Part of me wishes that I didn't read it because I don’t want to believe that those kinds of things could be happening in this country that I call home and love so much.”

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Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., offered the motion on Thursday to make the Republican majority-authored report available to the members.

“The document shows a troubling course of conduct and we need to make the document available, so the public can see it,” said a senior government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the document. “Once the public sees it, we can hold the people involved accountable in a number of ways.”

The government official said that after reading the document “some of these people should no longer be in the government.” -Sara Carter

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-18/explosive-shocking-and-alarming-fisa-memo-set-rock-dc-end-mueller-investigation
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clinton Foundation vulnerability ...

This video gives a brief rundown of the gathering storm of corruption that is likely to be revealed in the upcoming weeks. The highlights:
* The total 'donations' to the Clinton Foundation and all of its spin-offs, is about $100 billion.
* Major donors were able to write off their donations' as business expenses, but if (as seems likely) the Clinton Foundation is found to not be a charity, those tax returns have to be re-filed, with the donation coming out of after-tax revenue. This, alone, could be enough to motivate people to hire an assassin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VMxoLzoMwI

This is only one legal approach that threatens Abadin and the Clinton family, including Chelsea, all of whom were on salary to the Foundation. (Chelsea's wedding was paid for by the Clinton Foundation.) But there is also the investigation going on from the DoJ and State Department, with the emails, the security lapses, and the pay-to-play operation. That path goes through James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, McCabe et al and Loretta Lynch.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the feeling that there is a huge struggle going on in the courts over the control of information. It may already be too late. The rumours suggest that the next revelations will be bombshells, but the bombshells don't arrive. At least, so far ...

This is a long video -- 35 minutes -- by a real legal mind who has worked in the White House. It's a legal analysis of the nest of political operatives that were running the DoJ and the FBI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuhI7zeanQg

This second video looks at what is known about the finances of the Clinton Foundation, and it's various spin-off charities. The man being interviewed is a professional financial investigator. This video is almost an hour long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrTi0WMciJg
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the struggle in the courts is over. The problem is that the Shumer Shutdown is where the media spotlight is at the moment. Some of the American pundits are speculating that the Democrats are doing this to dilute the impact of the FBI revelations to come.

If that's true, expect the Democrats to keep the shutdown going as long as possible. Which won't be that long, because the electorate doesn't like it.

I think the playbook says that the electorate 'blames' the Republicans for these shutdowns -- but now it's the Democrats that are the obstructionists. Trump showed the world that he'd sign anything about DACA as part of a deal where they ended chain migration and provided the money for the wall. And the Democrats came out of the process saying they couldn't possibly bring themselves to work out a deal with someone who used shocking language like that!

I think that explanation is weak. There is a lot of sympathy for the DACA kids, and the Democrats are using them as a bargaining chip. It isn't certain that the voters are going to accept the Democrat's version this time.

This is Trump's air-traffic controllers case. This is where he shows the Democrats who can take the heat. The shutdown will rouse a new segment of the population. If the DACA thing is cancelled, it means it will be an election issue, and the Democrats will focus on that. Trump will move on to his infrastructure bill, which they also will oppose.

What isn't calculated into the picture is that the Republicans almost certainly have their hands on some scandalous evidence that they are managing for maximum impact. And they are using this threat to force the Democrats into unpopular moves. They will actually be going into the election supporting Obama-style immigration, and opposing job creation aimed at poor whites and blacks.

And meanwhile, there will be the drip, drip, drip of new evidence that the Democrats are hopelessly corrupt.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:

This is Trump's air-traffic controllers case. This is where he shows the Democrats who can take the heat. The shutdown will rouse a new segment of the population. If the DACA thing is cancelled, it means it will be an election issue, and the Democrats will focus on that. Trump will move on to his infrastructure bill, which they also will oppose.


I hadn't really thought of this as the "Air-Traffic Controller" moment, but I think it has the potential to be apt.

What I will say for the GOP is over the last week they have been on message and the way the President has made this entire shutdown almost entirely into a DACA issue (if it is or isn't) certainly has spread the blame more universally.

The challenge the Democrats have is they need a win for their base;
If the President walks into the midterms with the tax plan and infrastructure plan in place with the Economy still being fairly robust, the GOP has a strong Economic case to make to the electorate.

From a practicality stand-point the Democrats agreeing to "The Wall" in exchange for concessions on DACA would be a win for the Democrats

You have 600 mi of barrier in place already with a 2000 mi border.
Its also not exactly a new concept as the Secure Fence Act was passed with a strong majority in both houses in 2006. (With the last two Democrat nominees for President voting in favor)

The Democrats could get a win on DACA for their base and rely on typical government inefficiency to delay the wall long enough for them to cancel it.

The issue is that the concept of resisting seems to supersede to concept of legislating.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really surprised they have folded so quickly! Isn't it time for the leading Democrats to smarten up, at least to the degree of giving up on the idea that Trump is (a) stupid or (b) incompetent. As a political drama, Trump has pulled off a masterstroke. The open meeting, which seemed to be orchestrated to placate the public about his 'stupidity and incompetence' turned out to be an illustration of how impossibly out of reach a reasonable compromise seems to be -- and why.

It set up Trump's narrative.

I am anything but sure that everybody saw it like I did, but the poll results told Schumer -- no prisoner of consistency -- to cut his losses. He's probably right on that score. Most Americans want (a) to make an exception for the DACA people, (b) have a secure border and (c) end or limit chain migration. That's precisely what Trump is going for.

The Democrats are so-oo buffaloed by Trump, it seems like they are playing the game at a lower level. Like a women's hockey national team going up against the Blackhawks.

The world has been polarized 'to the point where an inbred political class has formed, which has dissociated itself from the mainstream of the electorate. In the US, their attention is determined by lobbyists as much the electorate. This attitude has spread to the management class as a whole.

Put it this way -- if you think the big problems facing society are climate change and finding an equal place for women in the boardrooms of Canada, you are in one camp. In the other camp are people who respond to the idea of jobs and are wrestling with the problem of getting a house.

In Canada, think of it this way. Conservatives have come to think of themselves as being the audience at the Monk Debates, or the people at the shareholders' meeting of Loblaws ....

But that isn't their base. This is a closer representation of their base.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_540950&feature=iv&src_vid=ezUvGhT4KwM&v=WR7RlK-YvNg

We can see it more clearly in the USA, because we can be more objective about it. From my eyes, the shrewdest of the shrewd, Shrewd Schumer, seems totally at sea when confronted with the creation (at least in part) of the deplorables. That shows us that the old playbook is worn out. But it's at work in Canada, too, but the more you're locked into a political stance, the harder it is to see.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
I am really surprised they have folded so quickly! Isn't it time for the leading Democrats to smarten up, at least to the degree of giving up on the idea that Trump is (a) stupid or (b) incompetent. As a political drama, Trump has pulled off a masterstroke. The open meeting, which seemed to be orchestrated to placate the public about his 'stupidity and incompetence' turned out to be an illustration of how impossibly out of reach a reasonable compromise seems to be -- and why.


Again to give the GOP credit, they held the line.

The consistent message was that the President was willing to work with the Democrats on DACA but he needed border security addressed when the Government was shut down over DACA the real brilliance was to immediately market this as the Democrats shutting down Government access to citizens to secure legislation for non-citizens.

The challenge now becomes what the deal on DACA looks like.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Trump managing the news too?

It's dangerous to exclude the possibility that we aren't in the middle of some Trump orchestrated event. A huge crowd has been electronically assembled.

Think of it -- the mob is jumping up and down with anticipation. We are all led to expect that this big data dump would lead to explosive revelations ... while waiting, we hear of the FBI in defensive mode, destroying records and doing their best to obstruct justice. It looks like a race-to-the-border situation.

And we see the top officials cringing before the questions, 'claiming that they would be pleased to unburden themselves except ... those dang privacy rights of the perps.

And, around the edges, little leaks of information come out, confirming in small ways what others are suspecting. And then the actual behaviour -- which was predictable -- occurs, it seems to confirm the fears of corruption.

Is public opinion being massaged into a new realization? Will we even need to see the famous memo to know that a treasonous cabal has taken over the FBI, and using their leverage to flout the law -- to the point of carelessness.

Meanwhile, public interest has only grown, as it has its emerging attitudes reinforced with a steady flow of new leaks ... this time, that on the day after the election, top officials in the FBI formed a 'secret society' ... meant to save the nation from its just-elected president! If only we could get their text messages!!! How can you not get excited, it smells of a cabal?

Now we "know" that Hillary's campaign hired the group that wrote the Fusion dossier. How do we know that? Because the FBI refuses to answer the question? The FBI has circled the wagons around the lead hand in all of this mess, Peter Stzrok(?). That very act implies all the rumours are true.

The famous memo, outlining legal vulnerabilities of certain high officials, is in the hands of Trump. He has his twitter network which gets to millions of people and is often retweeted to lots more. Trump can play Deep Throat for the multitude, and meanwhile, the suspense is maintained for one more chapter of the tale of Orange Pant-suits: How Hillary went to jail.

I come back to where we started -- it isn't as if the news has escaped the prison on the Washington Post and gotten free, to the acclaim of the masses ... it's as if one set of management of the news is replacing another.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may have started!

Some big developments.

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House Intel Committee Votes To Release Spy Memo
CHUCK ROSS
Reporter
6:30 PM 01/29/2018

The House Intelligence Committee voted on Monday to release a four-page memo that alleges that top officials in the FBI and Justice Department misled a federal surveillance court in order to obtain a spy warrant against a former Trump campaign adviser.

California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the panel, announced the vote results to reporters.

The White House has five days to object to the release of the memo, though White House officials have suggested that President Trump will allow it to be made public.

California Rep. Devin Nunes, the chairman of the committee, and South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy, put together the memo earlier this month based on information provided by the FBI and DOJ.

The committee voted earlier this month to provide all members of Congress access to the memo, which contains classified information.

Nunes reportedly granted FBI Director Christopher Wray access to the memo on Sunday at the request of Gowdy, a former federal prosecutor.

Schiff and his fellow Democrats have protested the release of the memo, which they claim is a set of talking points aimed at discrediting Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Democrats put together a rebuttal memo of their own and have been pushing to release it to all of Congress. But the committee voted against that move in Monday’s business meeting.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01.....paign=push


This is the dyn-O-mite document that they have been fighting about releasing for the last week or so. We will soon see if it's as hot as is pretended. The idea is that this memo will cause 'heads to roll' -- not real heads, in the 21st century, it's your job they take away, not your head.

Wray saw it and has already fired McCabe. Who is McCabe? He is the #2 man at the FBI. McCabe was walked to the door with a cardboard box. Just to put it in perspective, he was the top man in charge of checking out domestic espionage. Also, he is plugged into the top ranks of the Democrats through his wife, who ran for office in Virginia with Terry McAuliffe's $upport. Another angle: Deep Throat -- the man who dictated the Watergate scandal to the Washington Post reportersv-- was Mark Felt, who previously occupied McCabe's position. In other words, other people in his office have brought a president down.

The smart reporters think that when the State of the Union excitement has settled down, there will be more publicized firings, and possibly the start of criminal proceedings.[/code]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am interested to see the Memo;
My hope is that all this outrage over a document no one could see isn't unfounded.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The FISA Memo confirms suspicions!!

The memo can be seen at: https://www.axios.com/read-nunes-memo-fbi-doj-fisa-mueller-7fb8bcb7-1f18-4294-aa95-628d2f67bcdf.html

It can't be reproduced by me. Sorry. You have to hit the <read more> button on the Nunes story, and scroll down to it.

Added later: an easier path to the memo: https://www.scribd.com/document/370601487/370599093-FISA-Memo-Full-Text#download

The important thing is that it confirms the 'theory' that the anti-Trump allegations that are being packaged as 'opposition research' -- real opposition research goes after real stuff -- and later named "the Steele Dossier" was, in fact, slanderous fiction. Some of it is clearly false, and the rest of it cannot be corroborated. The 'authors' are being sued by Russians mentioned. You can read about it here:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/01/russia-steele-dossier-democrats-republicans-216921

That's a very Democrat-friendl]y version. The memo confirms that 'the dossier' formed the basis of a FISA warrant on Clarence Page, a Trump associate who it was felt was connected to Russia, and that pertinent information was not disclosed to the FISA Court.

The importance of the memo is that it confirms that Department of Justice lied to the FISA court. Further, it corroborates a larger analysis, involving terms like "the Deep State and the like. That picture shows a group of top FBI officials actively involved in attempting to depose the President using the resources of the intelligence community to "wiretap" Trump and his transition team. They did this on the basis of evidence provided to them by the Democratic National Committee.

That's serious. How serious? Well, the guy who had McCabe's job in another lifetime was Mark Felt, who is also known as"Deep Throat", the guiding hand who used the young reporters, Woodward and Bernstein, to depose President Nixon. So it's not so far-fetched. They must have honestly felt they could topple a President!

From now on, any serious Congressional committee can't overlook the Department of Justice itself. They are supposed to 'provide oversight' to the civil service, to keep it doing what it should be doing in a non-partisan way. There are so Tea Party types who want to ret

In Justice, it goes back to Eric Holder, and Obama himself. And, to make it worse, we know the IRS was used in a flagrantly illegal manner, for political purposes. It's now up to Congress to clean up the mess, starting with the FBI.

And if you include what is likely, but unproven, about the Clinton Foundation and the illegal server, and thus, the Department of State, you see that a rot 'that was developing, and had been developing, for awhile. The Clinton Foundation raised sums in the $billions, not mere $millions.

Never mind the security breaches ...

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It feels to me that, once again, this is where the internet plays such a huge role. The mainstream media have ignored and downplayed the unfolding events. The internet types have taken the footage and 'marketed it' on YouTube, and Trump's tweets attract attention to what he wants to be seen. When it comes to getting 'the news' out there, the electronic audience is often ahead of the mainstream people. Or in this case, the mainstream has blacked out something that the internet has put in the centre of the stage.

With the State of the Union speech, Trump has a tight grip on Republicans, and a chunk of independents as well. Now he is going for a piece of the centre-left. You watch how the infrastructure bill works out really nice for black Americans! Scott Adams says that Trump will moderate from now on.

Why? So he can eat into Democrat support -- and he can -- he will leave the Democrats looking like a collapsed hot-air balloon. In many of the big electoral states, the Democrats win with heavy urban voting outweighing a Republican small town and country vote. For this reason, a few percentage points switching votes from Dem to Rep can change the Presidential election more than the election for local representatives.

But if this FISA memo is followed through on, there are going to be more arrests, and the ugliness of the Obama administration is going to be exposed by a guy who may not be a politician, but who is a master of the craft of political theatre. Look at how he has brought public opinion to bear on the 'Democrats about immigration. They are being stubborn, but I think they will pay a price for that. They are having a narrative created for them, and of them -- the narrative of the stubborn sore losers. That's going to be their brand if they aren't careful.

What if the narrative continues to show these sore losers also abuse state power in a criminal way? Sellng short the security of the USA for personal enrichment?

I mean, if Patrick Brown can get blown away with the anonymous allegation of a too-young woman, what is going to happen to a stale, old political party that is provably a criminal enterprise? Just as a branding exercise, it's gotta hurt.

I think Trump is rounding the curve into a long stretch where he's in control.[/i]
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The confirmation of the memo is causing Congressional committees to double-down on their research. Here's a short video of Jim 'Jordan with new revelations -- that Syd Blumenthal provided material for the dossier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgT5uPlTBdY

So -- the Clintons not only hired Fusion GPS to collect slanderous material for the dossier, they had Clinton consigliere Syd Blumenthal produce material for it. Steele obviously had an imput, but he probably got his $160,000 as much for his bona fides as for his actual research.

Remember, the dossier was the evidence the FBI cited in getting its FISA warrant to spy on the Trump transition team. FBI director Comey testified that the dossier was unverified and in some cases provably wrong.
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OBAMA'S ROLE

As the ever-enlargening scandal centered in the US Department of Justice is revealed, it becomes less and less possible to ignore the role of Eric Holder and Barrack Obama in the creation of the mess. Perhaps 'creation' is not the right word. It seems a matter of scale. But there is no doubt Eric Holder, from the start, undertook to change the professionalism of the DoJ and FBI to gain immunity for their adventures. Fast and Furious occurred about a year into Obama's mandate.

That really is a mess. Jailing political opponents leads to revenge arrests. Not penalizing them creates precedents for later generations. It is almost certain to degrade American politics.

That's my view. This is Dick Morris' take on these events. Morris was a top advisor to Bill Clinton at one time, and brought the concept of 'triangulation' into the American political discussion.

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Dick Morris: Obama Was in It up to His Eyeballs
By Dick Morris
February 7, 2018 at 1:01pm

Now that the dimensions of the political corruption, bias and injustice that characterized the FBI in recent years is becoming public, it is time to reconsider the legacy of President Barack Obama.

And, as the FBI corruption spread to the State Department and the NSA, Obama’s role becomes apparent.

The newly released texts between star-crossed lovers Peter Strock and Lisa Page are uncovering how deeply Obama himself was involved. Today, Wisconsin Republican Sen. Ron Johnson released a text in which Lisa Page, preparing to prep FBI Director James Comey for his meeting with Obama wrote Strock that “POTUS wants to know everything that we are doing.”

Obama, apparently ran roughshod over the “need to know principle and discarded the protection of “plausible deniability.” He was pulling the strings and wanted to be sure his orders were received, obeyed and executed.

Can you impeach an ex-president?

Now, an entirely new dimension of the FBI/State Department/NSA scandal has emerged with a familiar question: What did Obama know and when did he know it?

Look for a parade of executive branch officials to be summoned before congressional committees to answer questions about their interaction with the boss.

Obama has avoided being tarred with the Hillary Clinton email scandal even though he obviously knew she was using a private server, in direct violation of his orders (she emailed him on it). But now, he may be on the spot for encouraging the likes of Rod Rosenstein and Andrew McCabe to slow walk the investigation of Clinton’s emails, especially those found on Huma Abedin/Anthony Weiner’s computer in the closing weeks of the election campaign.

While we have the former president’s attention, we should ask some other questions:

Do you think a special prosecutor should be established to investigate Barack Obama?
Yes No

– – – – – – – – or – – – – – – – –

1. Did you know about the illegal unmasking of those caught on NSA metadata surveillance? Did you order it?

2. Did you know that your State Department was working to prepare a negative dossier on Trump in the middle of the election?

3. Did you know that Russia had targeted Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in order to persuade her to approve the sale of our uranium capacity to Moscow? Did you approve or know of the efforts to suppress publicity about their efforts during the election?

4. Did you know of the overtly political involvement of the top leadership of the FBI in the 2016 election and why did you do nothing to stop it?

Obama’s affirmative legacy is in tatters.

The soaring economy that started as soon as he moved out of the White House demonstrates, as nothing else can, how his policies were holding things back. Obamacare is shredded and fading fast. And President Trump’s ability to defeat the Islamic State group and hold North Korea at bay attest both to his strength and Obama’s weakness.

Now, the one thing he had going for him — the perception of honesty and integrity and respect for law and order — is about to leave him.
https://www.westernjournal.com/dick-morris-obama-eyeballs/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=deepsix&utm_content=2018-02-07&utm_campaign=can
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