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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 12:49 pm    Post subject: Murdered man the source of Wikileaks material? Reply with quote

This may be the source of the leaks from the DNC to Wikileaks. In which case, the Russian hacking story falls apart. But it raises so many other questions -- would the Democrats actually look on murder as a solution to workplace larceny? Who knows?

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Murdered DNC Staffer Seth Rich Shared 44,053 Democrat Emails With WikiLeaks: Report
by Tyler Durden
May 16, 2017 9:52 AM

For the past several months, Democrats have based their "Resist 45" movement on unsubstantiated assertions that the Trump campaign coordinated with Russian intelligence officials to undermine the 2016 Presidential Election thereby 'stealing' the White House from Hillary Clinton. Day after day we've all suffered through one anonymously sourced, "shock" story after another from the New York Times and/or The Washington Post with new allegations of the 'wrongdoing'.

But, new evidence surfacing in the Seth Rich murder investigation may just quash the "Russian hacking" conspiracy theory. According to a new report from Fox News, it was former DNC staffer Seth Rich who supplied 44,000 DNC emails to WikiLeaks and not some random Russian cyber terrorist, as we've all been led to believe.

According to Fox News, though admittedly via yet another anonymous FBI source, Rich made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, an American investigative reporter and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time. According to Fox News sources, federal law enforcement investigators found 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments sent between DNC leaders from January 2015 to May 2016 that Rich shared with WikiLeaks before he was gunned down on July 10, 2016.

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The Democratic National Committee staffer who was gunned down on July 10 on a Washington, D.C., street just steps from his home had leaked thousands of internal emails to WikiLeaks, law enforcement sources told Fox News.

A federal investigator who reviewed an FBI forensic report detailing the contents of DNC staffer Seth Rich’s computer generated within 96 hours after his murder, said Rich made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time.

“I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and Wikileaks,” the federal investigator told Fox News, confirming the MacFadyen connection. He said the emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department.


Then, on July 22, just 12 days after Rich was killed, WikiLeaks published internal DNC emails that appeared to show top party officials conspiring to stop Bernie Sanders from becoming the party’s presidential nominee. As we've noted before, the DNC's efforts to block Sanders resulted in Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigning as DNC chairperson.

These new revelations seem to be consistent with the findings of Rod Wheeler, a former DC homicide detective and Fox News contributor, whose private investigation firm was hired by Rich’s family to probe the case.

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"My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks," Wheeler told Fox News. "I do believe that the answers to who murdered Seth Rich sits on his computer on a shelf at the DC police or FBI headquarters."

“My investigation shows someone within the D.C. government, Democratic National Committee or Clinton team is blocking the murder investigation from going forward,” Wheeler told Fox News. “That is unfortunate. Seth Rich’s murder is unsolved as a result of that.”

The botched robbery theory, which police have pursued for nearly a year, isn’t panning out, Wheeler said. Two assailants caught on a grainy video tape from a camera posted outside a grocery mart, shot Rich twice in his back, but did not take his wallet, cell phone, keys, watch or necklace worth about $2,000.


As you'll recall, Rich's death has been shrouded in mystery from the start as he was reportedly shot from behind in the wee hours of the morning but was not robbed of the nearly $2,000 worth of cash and jewelry on his body at the time.

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Rich had been at Lou’s City Bar a couple of miles from his home until about 1:15 a.m. He walked home, calling several people along the way. He called his father, Joel Rich, who he missed because he had gone to sleep. He talked with a fraternity brother and his girlfriend, Kelsey Mulka.

Around 4:17 a.m., Rich was about a block from his home when Mulka, still on the phone with him, heard voices in the background. Rich reassured her that he was steps away from being at his front door and hung up.

Two minutes later, Rich was shot twice. Police were on the scene within three minutes. Rich sustained bruising on his hands and face. He remained conscious, but died at a nearby hospital less than two hours later.


Shortly thereafter, Julian Assange implied that Seth Rich was, in fact, a source for WikiLeaks and offered a $130,000 reward for information leading to his killer.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/.....-wikileaks


Strangely, the DNC refused to allow the FBI access to the server that would established if a hack had taken place, Equally strangely, the FBI did not issue a subpoena to get it anywayl
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting to say the leqast.

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Strangely, the DNC refused to allow the FBI access to the server

There is some question whether that is accurate. DNC says they never asked , but apparently they agreed on a third party.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
Interesting to say the least.

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Strangely, the DNC refused to allow the FBI access to the server

There is some question whether that is accurate. DNC says they never asked , but apparently they agreed on a third party.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This gets a little close to Alex Jones type of material, but if the emails that Wikileaks released are on Rich's laptop, that's hard evidence of the leak, at a minimum. Did the DNC have Rich murdered? That's a conclusion I don't want to leap to right away. I can't really explain why not ... perhaps it is just my awe of the powerful.

But equally, these situations have happened before. In medieval Italy, the leading figures of the day had their rivals bumped off. At least at certain periods, they did. The American colossus (it figures) would be tempted, certainly. We were willing to blame Putin for those radioactive poisons that were being used to strike down Russian emigres at one time. Why is it impossible that assassinations sometimes happen in Washington, where the stakes are so high? Against Americans?

Forget political loyalties for a minute. Let's pretend we're in a Tom Clancy plot. What if the leading statesmen of one party -- or one of them -- finds out compromising emails are being duplicated, and tracks down who is doing the duplicating. Let's assume he sniffs out that something bad for his side is about to happen. What then?

What does be do? Does he go to the police? It isn't even clear a crime has taken place at this point. If the emails become evidence in a trial, and can be read by at least some outsiders. Not ideal. What are the other choices? My point is that when the stakes are high enough, murder seems like an alternative.

What if the discoverer is closely associated with a powerful apparatchik, the kind of guy who can 'get things done', and at the same time, would be in the pool from which the most senior figures of a future government would be drawn.

Does there come a point where the stakes are so huge that risking being implicated in a murder plot is worth it, rationally? Where the chances of being caught and convicted is (perhaps) 5%, but the reward is a place in the history books?

Is that where we are in the 21st century?
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops, the story is changing. The private investigator is denying he said what he said on television. The Fox reporter said another unidentified source inside the FBI claimed to have read the emails on the laptop, but nobody knows who has the laptop now.

If the FBI did, indeed, have the laptop, then Comey might have known what was on it, which raises the interesting question -- why, then, the Russian investigation?
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is squaring off into a huge battle. On the one side, you have an alliance, forged over the decades, between inside-government officials and the Democratic Party, with some participation by old-school Republicans, like McCain. It's a powerful block, and the battle is taking place on their home field. This side is called the "deep state".

The mainstream media are almost totally in support of the deep state.

The other side is Donald Trump's group, an electoral insurgency aiming at 'draining the swamp', an allusion to the general corruption and decadence of present-day Washington. So far, despite the media's best efforts, the Trump base has stayed loyal.

This is a battle over which direction America is to take -- to continue to implement the globalist agenda, or to return to the nation state scale of government, where governments have a correlation with ethnicity and culture.

It's the biggest battle yet, and it is over control of the Department of Justice. Right now, it is being run by functionaries put in place by Obama, and which became nearly lawless under Holder and Lynch. For example, they never prosecuted the IRS scandal, which is a bigger-than-Watergate scandal all on its own. And if the FBI had the Rich emails, it means that Comey has continued the Russian investigation when there is an alternative explanation -- certainly good enough to establish 'reasonable doubt' -- and there is no evidence linking Trump insiders to collusion with the Russians. It means that Comey was not the ethical legal mind his reputation was built on.

This will not likely end when the Russian conspiracy story is over. This is a big battle in a war.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
Toronto Centre wrote:
Interesting to say the least.

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Strangely, the DNC refused to allow the FBI access to the server

There is some question whether that is accurate. DNC says they never asked , but apparently they agreed on a third party.


When the emails first surfaced, the FBI wanted to check the DNC servers to possibly detect the hacking. Instead, the Democrats managed to convince the FBI to be satisfied with the report they got from a private company, called Crowdstrike.

The FBI has ample power to subpoena servers like this, when there is a question of a foreign nation interfering with an American election. Why would they settle for less? Obviously because it is an election issue.
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