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Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:57 pm    Post subject: Obama could be the biggest Scam in America said Trump. Reply with quote

On the radio I heard Donald Trump say that Obama could be the biggest Scam in America, even in history. Why doesn't he come clean about his birth? Moreover, why did he spend over 2 million dollars in legal fees to protect and prevent? Indeed Trump is stirring things up. Frankly, more than many in the GOP. But I still don't think Trump will run. However, he has the money to be a counter to George Soros who happens to be one of the major backers of Obama in many ways.

Breaking from Newsmax.com

Trump: I Sent Private Eyes to Hawaii to Check Obama

Donald Trump says he has “real doubts” about President Barack Obama’s birthplace and has sent investigators to Hawaii to find out whether Obama was in fact born there, as he claims.

During an interview with NBC’s “Today” show on Thursday, the real estate billionaire said his investigators might uncover “one of the greatest cons in the history of politics and beyond.”

“I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re finding.”

NBC’s Meredith Vieira asked: "You have people now out there searching — I mean, in Hawaii?"

Trump responded: “Absolutely.”

The host of “The Apprentice,” who is considering a run for president in 2012, suggested that Obama is engaged in a cover-up regarding his birthplace.

“He spent $2 million in legal fees trying to get away from this issue, and if it weren’t an issue, why wouldn’t he just solve it?

“I wish he would, because if he doesn’t it’s one of the greatest scams in the history of politics and in history, period.

“You are not allowed to be a president if you’re not born in this country. Right now, I have real doubts.”

In 2008, the Obama campaign produced a certificate of live birth that reports his birthplace as Honolulu, Hawaii. The Hawaii government says that document is official evidence of his birth in the state.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well even if Obama's birth certificate indicated he was born outside of the US, the only other option was McCain and he was born in Panama. Making much out of nothing.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DFP wrote:
well even if Obama's birth certificate indicated he was born outside of the US, the only other option was McCain and he was born in Panama. Making much out of nothing.


And, here's to making nothing out of much:

John McCain was born on August 29, 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912).At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control.
Bugs





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DFP doesn't care.

Personally, I don't care either. It's their election, and if nobody screens the candidates when the campaign starts, it's a little late to do it now, as far as I am concerned.

What I care about is the Chicago machine politicians in the White House, and how they are screwing up, big time. Obama is actually getting the same kind of approval ratings that George W Bush got at the end of his presidency -- and his isn't even over yet.

There are a lot of bad omens about this administration.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the fact that Trump keeps at it, going after Obama from every angle. Most of the possible Republican candidates are in the Centre and trying to remain in that position to attract independents and even those who voted for Obama and are now unhappy. Trump pushes the enevelope.

On his radio program Hanniity said he doesn't agree with The Donald on every issue but respects his forthrightness

Sean Hannity doesn't back down from liberals
http://www.irishcentral.com/st.....85249.html

On the Hannity show last night, Donald Trump claimed he has done hundreds of business deals in which he has and will will receive massive scrutiny from the media, especially if he runs for President. But he says the one real estate deal Obama did with Rezko, had many strange and puzzling aspects about it and should have been investigated by the media, but never was.

Never one to back down from his beliefs, Sean Hannity again brought up Obamas close association with Reverend Wright in which he was a member of Wrights Black Liberation Church for 20 years. Some of Wrights incendiary remarks included " Godd**n Amerikkka" soon after 911 occurred.

Sean Hannity was also instrumental in bringing up the fact that Obama had a close relationship with Bill Ayers, the convicted terrorist who set bombs off all over America. Those bombs caused damage to institutions, terror to the American public and some claim, his bombs caused death. Trump said during the interview, he is almost certain Bill Ayers was the ghost writer for Obamas first popular book, "Dreams From My Father".


Trump interviewed by Sean Hannity- Fox News
http://www.hannity.com/videos?.....91/1294174

http://www.hannity.com/article.....ever/13217
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexis wrote:
DFP wrote:
well even if Obama's birth certificate indicated he was born outside of the US, the only other option was McCain and he was born in Panama. Making much out of nothing.


And, here's to making nothing out of much:

John McCain was born on August 29, 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (b. 1912).At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control.


That's a pretty tenuous argument you're making. In the 2008 U.S. presidential elections, the republican candidate was John McCain who was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone in Panama. The democrat candidate was Barack Obama and he was born at the Triple Army Medical Center, Honolulu, Hawaii (certificate states:"S. Army Tripler General Hospital").

This is where Bugs would say "hmmm"

Disagree with his policies all you want, this birth certificate thing is a sideshow and Trump of all people knows he can tap into this to boost his marginal chances of getting his name on the GOP ticket by riding a wave of discontent and mistrust of the current president. I mean c'mon last I checked he was sitting at about 10%, unless his new celebrity apprentice shitshow has been somehow boosting his chances of getting the nomination, he has to resort to these shenanigans to increase his profile.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never have imagined that you were interested in this question, DFP.

If you think McCain is ineligible, then you must be really certain that Obama is ineligible, because he was born in Kenya, and only one of his parents was an American.

I wouldn't have taken you for a 'birther'.

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Sen. McCain is undoubtedly a citizen. He was born on Aug. 29, 1936, in the Panama Canal Zone, and Congress has specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents, as he was, is a citizen. Indeed, the general rule is that anyone born of U.S. parents outside the United States is a citizen.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23.....htly_news/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't care about the issue but I don't see any sign saying I'm not allowed to participate.

The wild speculation in regards to where the president of the united states was born is really just one big sideshow, kind of similar to how military records are often misrepresented and slandered by the opposing camp during the actual election season. It is a sideshow designed to distract a large number of people from accurately reflecting on what is actually afflicting their country, rather than being naive bumbling idiots and blaming it on one guy who, lets' be frank, is simply not able to fix their problems because he's just not going to be able to successfully take on the uphill battle they're all in. I understand the popular dynamic that brought him to power but also the more subtle dynamic that enabled him as well, so I have been neither a supporter or detractor of his (don't mind criticizing their government though)

The suggestion I was trying to make is that while they were both born outside of the continental USA, both in military hospitals, that for the candidate who was finally elected by a clear margin over his opponent to be dogged by persistent accusations during his time in office of being a non-american and thus by implication invalidating his entire position in the executive branch of their government is a terrible development in their downward spiral.

As far as whether or not his birth certificate is legitimate or false, I haven't kept up with.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
..., because he was born in Kenya, and only one of his parents was an American.

I wouldn't have taken you for a 'birther'.



Two things.

Why do you persist in the face of overwhelming evidence against you?

And can you post the link that proves he was born in Kenya. An official type of some sort and not out of birther -land.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no link. The issue doesn't interest me very much. Let's say there was a lot of doubt about where he was born, and there is evidence on both sides of the issue.

I don't think it's very important, at this point. Any candidate's eligibility is to be challenged before they get in the race. How can you depose a sitting president for something like this?

On the other hand, don't you think that there's something wrong in that Obama doesn't just show the document? It would be so easy to end the controversy, and discredit his opponents, wouldn't it.

The other thing is -- Obama has never been vetted by the media. His past was a complete reconstruction created by his book, and it's even a question if he wrote his book.

There's an interesting interview of a writer who has probed Obama's past, and written a book. It's on video, and is in five minute segments, but it's high quality journalism. Check it out.

http://tv.nationalreview.com/u.....EyMzY2Y2U=
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is another example of the secret agenda by Obama to connect with communists, socialists, UN, anybody who recognizes his intentions of spreading the wealth. But Canada doesn't quite fit his energy and fuel plans. What a scam artist.

Obama not slick on Canada's Oilsands - David Wilkins former U.S. ambassador to Canada (Toronto Sun)

...won't be available to post for a few days.

However, here are two quotes by Wilkins in the Toronto Sun, April 20, 2011

"President Obama mentioned Canada favourably in an energy speech where he called for the reduction of U.S. dependence on foreign oil.

But a week later, when asked directly by a Canadian citizen to clarify his position on Canada's oilsands, Obama offered a somewhat muddled response.

While making the general point that importing oil from countries that are stable and friendly is a good thing the president went on to praise Brazilian biofuels (he had visited the week before and encouraged that country's oil production) and questioned Canada's oilsands."

"...The U.S. could not hope to have a better, more reliable and responsible partner and the president should salute this unwaveringly and wihtout conditions."
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EOJ ... I sent you a PM with another theory about Obama's birth. It is, at least in part, corroborated by Howard Kurtz's interview on the Uncommon Knowledge part of the National Review website. If you check it out, you can see why Obama is so determined to hide his birth certificate.

Check it out. It may be too racy for your blog, but it makes for juicy reading.
Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Bugs... I scanned through the site. A bit... you know what I mean...

Best-selling author Dr. Jerome Corsi has written a contoversial book. Corsi is an American author most known for "The Obama Nation" in 2008 and "Unfit for Command" in 2004.

“Where’s the Birth Certificate?” – Dr. Jerome Corsi
http://www.thestreet.com/story.....issue.html

Book Pushes Obama's Birth Location Issue
http://www.thestreet.com/story.....issue.html

Editorial Review Amazon:

Over the course of more than three years of research, Jerome Corsi assembles the evidence that Barack Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the office of the presidency. As a New York Times bestselling author, Harvard graduate, and investigative journalist, Corsi exposes in detail key issues with Obama's eligibility, including the fact the President has spent millions of dollars in legal fees to avoid providing the American people with something as simple as a long-form birth certificate. The eligibility issue has major ramifications for every American, and through Corsi's in-depth research, a clear, concise, and compelling case is made for a return to Founding Father principles and transparent, constitutional government, starting from the top down
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there was any real evidence that Obama was not born in the US by now the American right would have been to court to have the election invalidated. The more that potential candidates like Trump beat this drum the more stupid the Republican Party is going to look.
Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paisley_cross...

And what if you are wrong? Obama's people spent 2 million dollars in preventing something. Let's say he was born in America but then moved to Indonesia and became a citizen there and when they returned didn't bother with certain forms etc.

There are some very smart and rich people who are questioning why he is mute about all this. Furthermore, there is much that's not known about the Chicago Community organizer. Those who have investigated are aware he has been influenced by Marxist/Leninist types and was connected with suspicious types.

The Left doesn't mind because their hero JFK was involved with seriously questionable types as well.

What also is bothersome is that he wasn't vetted. That definitely is a problem with the American system.

I wonder... Are you of slightly of the left or a libertarian with libertine tendencies?
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