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Should Gary Nicholls, the CBC's new anti-Harper-stooge-on-demand be de-listed from Blogging Tories?
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FoxtrotBravo





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Gerry Nicholls should be de-listed from Blogging Tories Reply with quote

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I don't know anything about Gerry Nicholls except what I see on TV and read online, and in my view Gerry Nicholls is a conservative of convenience: he has become the anti-Harper stooge used by the left-wing kooks at the CBC to take shots at Harper .. and he does it on cue. Nicholls' only claim to fame seems to be having once worked with the PM, and he seems content to milk every miserable penny and personal advantage from that short association.

I can't stand people like Nicholls: he repeats private conversations he has had with someone to sell his book and get his mug on TV, he's a gossip and seems to have done nothing of consequence himself . Gerry Nicholls is trying to make a life-long living out of his short run at the NCC and for having worked with/for Harper. Gerry Nicholls has become the Zsa Zsa Gabor of Canadian politics. In my books, be someone conservative, liberal, socialist, or communist: when you sell yourself and those around you to make money, you're just a low-life.

(** Note, Gary corrected to Gerry. My mistake.)


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JDot





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Gary Nicholls should be de-listed from Blogging Tories Reply with quote

FoxtrotBravo wrote:
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I can't stand people like Nicholls: he repeats private conversations he has had with someone to sell his book and get his mug on TV, he's a gossip and seems to have done nothing of consequence himself


Co-Sign...

But like you say...

Quote:
Gary Nicholls is trying to make a life-long living out of his short run at the NCC and for having worked with/for Harper


Boom!!!

But I vote no*. He should still be a BT. We don't stifle speech. We just laugh at them IMHO.

We all know Gerry Nicholls shtick, no need to censor. Even a broken clock is right twice a day..

*EDIT:I vote no, not yes(original text said yes). Ugh, fail by me.


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Cool Blue





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that he's gotten pretty annoying but I don't think he should be banned for his opinions.

He doesn't realize that if you can never please somebody who's always complaining, eventually you stop trying.
JDot





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Blue wrote:
I agree that he's gotten pretty annoying but I don't think he should be banned for his opinions.



This...
Luke Nicholson





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He shouldn't be banned. If you don't agree with him, don't read his columns or his blog entries. Or, if you want to, respond on his blog. He puts all of his columns there. It would be refreshing to see some logical, rational responses to his columns, as opposed to the usual hyper-partisan ranting that he puts up with.
FoxtrotBravo





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My problem with Nicholls is not that he disagrees with Harper or the government on issues, we all have issues that we disagree on and cringe at. My problem with Nicholls is his motivation for disagreeing. I get the sense that he has learned that he can sell more books, get invited on TV or radio more regularly, and collect a bigger pay check by being a "conservative who disagrees with Harper" then someone who actually has the greater good of Canada, the government or party in mind.

I don't suggest that Nicholls be de-listed because he has descending or contrary views, I suggest it because he's trying to profit from them, and therein lies a subtle but important difference. My only hope is that when Sun TV sees the light of day, Nicholls will be left to rot as the stale, day old, faux-Harper insider at the kooky CBC, and for the rest of his days when Solomon, his half-witted master, turns the handle on his organ grinder, he continues to dance and squawk on command.
Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I enjoy a pretender, who is provocative and writes and speaks well. Often people who provoke generally psychologically project, they have the facets they criticize. Nicholls calls himself one of Canada's top five poltical minds. Self-aggrandizement? Never met the fellow nor have I have read his book. Only read a few of his comments.

Some have said that I self-promote and have a touch of self-aggrandizement. American influence. Exceptionalism. I once was a Performance Art Poet & Thespian. Started in Laguna Beach and Marina Del Rey. A damn good one, too. But auditions were torturous, as if one is begging for work, and many of things I had to memorize I could write better. Like actor Rex Harrison — loved him in My Fair Lady (based on George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalian) as Professor Henry Higgins — I didn't understand much of Shakespeare and old English, and didn't want to do the plays. Frankly, I am not a fan of socialist George Bernard Shaw either, who favoured the Fabian Society. I think Lerner & Lowe's version of the Shaw play was much better, uplifting at the end. But this is not about theatre and I... it's about Nicholls and Conservatism, the Conservative Party and the Prime Minister.

In the following piece in the Ottawa Citizen he is selling his consultative ability with adds. If it works and gets him a gig... well then good for him.

When attack ads backfire
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/b.....story.html

However, I am not fond of cheap shots or fictious comments about Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Nicholls style reminds me of Peter C. Newman an untrustworthy but dedicated journalist/writer and bald-headed weasel.
machiavelli





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GENTLEMEN: NICHOLLS IS A GENUINE SMALL-C CONSERVATIVE, HARPER IS NOT

After he agreed to cut, run, and surrender the combat mission to the terrorist in Afghanistan, substantiating that he is a terrorist hugger in the Khadr affair; Comrade Harper recently promulgated a precedent and chilling protectionist message that Canada isn’t open to foreign investment. All of this authenticates him as a politically correct, ex small-c conservative who has bartered his principles for a title.

As was the case in the spring of 2008, our wimpy, leftist PM has for a second time embarked on a perilous protectionist, and detrimental implementation of archaic, economic nationalism. The catastrophe decision to proscribe the non-strategic sale of Potash Corp. that is already 51% owned by foreigners, verifies that Harper has notified the world that he is following his ideologically fellow comrades Castro, Chavez, and Kim. Harper is now governing a non-free market, anti foreign investment, closed command society that is terrified of foreign capital and petrified to compete in a free market, capitalist, open economy.

No one calling himself a small-c fiscal conservative can any longer support this pathetic excuse for a conservative leader who is now undistinguishable from the far-left, pitiable Liberal or NDP current leaders. This far-left, Red Tory PM is history, as genuine small-c conservatives begin to search for a new, legitimate small-c fiscal and social leader! The bottom line for the next leader of the Conservative Party is that he takes us back to our Reform/Alliance roots that Harper has abandoned.

It is difficult to articulate the disillusionment and disenchantment that legitimate small-c fiscal, social, and judicial conservatives who elected him feel about our disingenuous leader. Harper calls it “incrementalism”, however, we genuine conservatives identify it as caving into the socialist, and we contend that he has injured the country, and has guaranteed that our children’s standard of living will be subordinate to our current standard. As the Economist magazine states: “the damage to Canada’s reputation as a place to do business is done. Now that the Conservatives have joined the protectionist bandwagon, investors have lost their chief ally in Ottawa. Other countries will doubtless be more welcoming.”

Harper’s pathetic, leftist brand of collectivist mush that he was against before he was for it, including his propensity to intervene in the market place, his massive overspending, and his expansion of government, are the rationale for legitimate small-c conservatives to realize that they are not represented in the Conservative Party or in the House of Commons.

Our next leader must be a legitimate small-c fiscal, social, and judicial conservative who is willing to make all the tough decisions pursuant to expenditure reduction, deficit elimination, abortion, and appointing only conservative judges.

In summation: Nicholls understands, believe in, a non-incrementally expedition of genuine small-c conservative policies in and he realizes that “Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” Unfortunately, Haper does not!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

machiavelli, I think the above comments are idiotic, you cannot tell the difference between a Statesman, one with a minority government and a politician with one foot on a banana peel?
machiavelli





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Edmund; that's about what I expected from the extreme left
Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


"Comrade Harper recently promulgated a precedent and chilling protectionist message that Canada isn’t open to foreign investment. All of this authenticates him as a politically correct, ex small-c conservative who has bartered his principles for a title.

As was the case in the spring of 2008, our wimpy, leftist PM has for a second time embarked on a perilous protectionist, and detrimental implementation of archaic, economic nationalism. The catastrophe decision to proscribe the non-strategic sale of Potash Corp. that is already 51% owned by foreigners, verifies that Harper has notified the world that he is following his ideologically fellow comrades Castro, Chavez, and Kim. Harper is now governing a non-free market, anti foreign investment, closed command society that is terrified of foreign capital and petrified to compete in a free market, capitalist, open economy."


Protectionism or wisdom. Perhaps tariffs are required on products from China, especially when the Chicoms do not allow reciprocation.

Reciprocity with China, and other Communist and Totalitarian nations?
http://onwardjames.blogspot.co.....unist.html
FoxtrotBravo





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

machiavelli wrote:
GENTLEMEN: NICHOLLS IS A GENUINE SMALL-C CONSERVATIVE, HARPER IS NOT

In summation: Nicholls understands, believe in, a non-incrementally expedition of genuine small-c conservative policies in and he realizes that “Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” Unfortunately, Haper does not!


I do agree with some of your arguments, which exactly why I find myself perplexed as to how you can make the above statement about Nicholls. If you, and he, are going to draw such a rigid line about what is tolerable conservatism, then how can you justify Nicholls collecting a pay check (directly or not) from the CBC, whose very existence is in my opinion one this country's biggest affronts to conservative principles? Wait, if it serves his, and your purposes, then it must be OK, or a necessary evil. The irony of him spouting from his ultra-right pulpit, while being planted at the CBC is killing me. That sure isn't damn straight from where I'm standing, which is the whole point of this topic.


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Edmund Onward James





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Furthermore, there are several questionable forum members who hide under allonyms or just plain silly names.

If someone disagrees about certain points that is not reason to hoof them off this forum and weblog, or many would be long gone, including me.

I find it a great pleasure when I learn something new, and even when I am corrected. But, frankly, I don't why I am even bothering with this thread and posting comments. An ego thing, perhaps, or the fact that I like Stephen Harper and defend many of his efforts. Although there are a few I strongly disagree with, they are posted on my weblog.

I think Gerry Nicholls wants to make sure the leader of the conservative party doesn't give in too much and stays too long in the centre, leaning to the left at times, to please, on certain issues. At the same time the man has to make a living. Have any of you tried even writing a book, then try to sell it? Or try to make a living in the political world. Are you even an entrepreneur like Nicholls who is self-employed?
yoshi





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foxtrtbravo

Seeing that you have made this topic personal....
I think you should post your real name!

Then we can put this all in context ...
Daveeire





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't delist him IMO.
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