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drdoom
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 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:12 am Post subject: Anti-Sun TV News campaign is actually US-based |
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A far left-wing American lobby group funded by U.S. billionaire George Soros wants you to be scared, very scared. There might soon be more competition in the world of TV news.
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A group called Avaaz.org operating out of New York City is warning their supporters that SUN TV News Channel, which has yet to launch, will bring “American-style hate media onto our airwaves."
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http://www.torontosun.com/news.....16861.html |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: |
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SUN TV "unapologetically Patriotic" is a good thing, Margaret Atwood, it's freedom of speech. And Prime Minister Harper may be just trying to balance things with the CRTC and the mainstream media of Canada.
The abject left — I kid... a bit — already have the group think Ottawa Press Corps, then the television contingent, CBC, TVO, CTV even Global that are at times in the centre, but seldom of the right. Common sense, pragmatic thinkers before action.
Atwood signed a petition with approximately 34,000 apoplectic leftists who are not fond of Prime Minister Harper and the capable Conservative government. Something to do with the arts, and hate style media that the American sect of Avaaz (Avaaz is Persian for the voice) say will happen. That organization was/is apparently funded and promoted by MoveOn.org, mainly funded by billionaire, mover-and-shaker George Soros, who wants to change the world order and establish a new dollar.
The Canadian left whines and cries the blues, because the best they might be able to accomplish is a coalition government, which they will accept.
Anything but Harper.
In the USA the left are dizzy because they might lose congress and the senate and Obama just might be a one term redistribution of wealth and constitution change president.
Frankly, I look forward to a TV station somewhat like FOX NEWS, which is number one against the the other Obama, democrat activist media. And, I don't mind criticism of the right as long as they also give credit, which is infrequent. When they do there is always a but...
Thank goodness there is a FOX NEWS in America and radio talk programs such as John Batchelor, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham and others who balance the mainstream media output. I look forward to SUN TV in Canada and pragmatic and wise programs and news. Indeed, I enjoy receiving emails of news releases and information from the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) to be aware of what our exceptional prime minister and ministers are doing.
Stephen Harper spent his summer holidays way up north, investing in decent citizens who do not wish to break away from Canada, and to make sure the north is not influenced or overtaken by other nations.
Bravo Prime Minister Harper. Bravo!
I just might start a boycott of Atwood's novels, but why bother, she is fading away along with her words. She has booked a cruise in the northern waterways, perhaps because in the hands of the left, red in the flag might not just be Canadian red (never cared for the colours of our flag). Welcome socialists and communists of the world to open Canada.
Illegal aliens too, go north and enter that way. Book a cruise with Atwood and her signatories of the left and special interest groups who welcome Tamil refugees that are questionable. If you can prove that you are creative, no problem.
Yay! TV of the Right in Canada!
http://onwardjames.blogspot.co.....anada.html |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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The NP has a great piece on this, worth a read, worth spreading it around too as the lefties seem to think it's perfectly okay for a U.S. based and funded org. to interfere with our freedom of press and speech.
Tyler Anderson/ National Post
| Quote: | Margaret Atwood will sign anything, apparently.
The well-known Canadian author and campaigner for liberal causes has reportedly appended her signature to a campaign by a New York-based organization to block Sun Media from obtaining a licence for its proposed TV channel.
Why? Well because, according to the U.S. group, Sun Media will bring “American-style hate media onto our airwaves.” As Sun reporter Brian Lilley notes, Canada isn’t actually in the United States. And, in fact, they already have Fox TV in the U.S., so how Sun Media can bring Fox-style TV to a country that already has Fox TV is a mystery.
But nevermind. This is a U.S. group trying to save Canada by convincing the CRTC to block the new channel. The group, Avaaz.org, doesn’t quite get the name of the CRTC correctly, but nevermind that too. Hard to sort these things out from Manhattan. Here’s what they have to say about the nefarious Tory campaign:
Prime Minister Harper is trying to push American-style hate media onto our airwaves, and make us all pay for it. His plan is to create a “Fox News North” to mimic the kind of hate-filled propaganda with which Fox News has poisoned U.S. politics. The channel will be run by Harper’s former top aide and will be funded with money from our cable TV fees!
One man stands in the way of this nightmare — the Chairman of Canada’s Radio and Telecommunications Commission Konrad von Finckenstein. And now, Harper is trying to get him out of his job. Sign the petition below to send a wave of support to von Finckenstein and forward this campaign to everyone — we’ll publish full page ads in Canadian papers when we reach 100,000:
Ooooh, scary eh kids? Note the bold type, like they do in the tabloids for readers who aren’t bright enough to get the message all on their own. Note that it’s Stephen Harper who is behind Sun TV, not the Sun Media people as the rest of us thought. He’s trying to force it down our throats. And only one man stands in his way — Konrad von Finckenstein! Of the Radio and Telecommunications Commission, which is not really what CRTC stands for, but what the hey. |
Read more: http://fullcomment.nationalpos.....z0yVR8HymT |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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As a conservative, I disagree with this issue.
I like the idea of SUN TV. I think it's great. However, we shouldn't be using cable fee revenue to give SUN TV to every satellite/cable provider.
The point of this license is to distribute neutral news networks to be available for every Canadian; SUN TV has already said that they are a right-wing news network.
This license has been, and should remain to be, reserved entirely for neutral new entities ONLY.
I'm saying this as a journalist, part of a large family of journalists, and as someone who has professionally researched the ramifications of politically driven news networks in the United States and the damage it's caused to the transparency of their political system as well as the American political process itself.
The culmination of politically driven news sources, left or right, is a terrible idea. It damages the national journalism industry, it damages the political process of the country, and is extremely effective at creating and exaggerating cultural differences to the point of hostility. It's an awful thing. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | SUN TV has already said that they are a right-wing news network.
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Prove it. All I have heard is a bunch of leftists screaming that Sun TV is Harper and Teyencke's evil fascist love child. I have found that SunTV has been promoting itself as "balanced". Finding out whether that is true will have to wait until the network actually airs some news coverage.
| Quote: | | The culmination of politically driven news sources, left or right, is a terrible idea. It damages the national journalism industry, it damages the political process of the country, and is extremely effective at creating and exaggerating cultural differences to the point of hostility. It's an awful thing. |
While I agree with you in principal, I have to say that this is irrelevant to the larger question of SunTV itself. Last time I checked we live in a country with free speech, and I don't think any bureaucrat should have the right to restrict a network's broadcasting rights because it's political agenda clashes with that of the intelligentsia.
Overly partisan news coverage is not a good thing, but it is not the right of anyone to restrict what others watch for news coverage. Simply put, if people want to watch right wing television, it is none of your business any more than it would be my business to try and shut down "TorontoStarTV" because it conflicts with my political views. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly. The hysteria from the left over this is appalling, that they think they have a right to restrict what I or anyone else wants to watch.
Now, a petition to get rid of CRTC is one I would sign. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| chilipepper wrote: | Exactly. The hysteria from the left over this is appalling, that they think they have a right to restrict what I or anyone else wants to watch.
Now, a petition to get rid of CRTC is one I would sign. |
It's not restriction. This entire issue has NOTHING to do with SUN TV being permitted to broadcast at all; it has to do with the license they're applying for to become a basic package channel. there's no restriction/censorship going on here, it's about them applying for a license that isn't meant for their network.
As a journalist, and as an employee for a Quebecor-owned entity, I can say with absolute assurance that this channel is right-wing and NOT a neutral news source. It's going to be a right-wing news channel with a right-wing agenda. This is good, as Canada lacks one at the moment to balance out the CBC (which, although not a systematically left-wing entity, employs a majority of leftist journalists). However, this channel should not apply for this license as it is meant for neutral news networks. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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While I agree with you in principal, I have to say that this is irrelevant to the larger question of SunTV itself. Last time I checked we live in a country with free speech, and I don't think any bureaucrat should have the right to restrict a network's broadcasting rights because it's political agenda clashes with that of the intelligentsia.
Overly partisan news coverage is not a good thing, but it is not the right of anyone to restrict what others watch for news coverage. Simply put, if people want to watch right wing television, it is none of your business any more than it would be my business to try and shut down "TorontoStarTV" because it conflicts with my political views. |
That's not even what's going on here. They're applying for a license to be a basic package channel on the grounds that they are a neutral source. They're not being prevented from broadcasting as they would still be able to offer themselves to any provider that would carry them (they're Quebecor, which means everyone they ask would carry them because Quebecor is enormous). |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | However, this channel should not apply for this license as it is meant for neutral news networks. |
A better question would be "Why do we even make tiers of licenses?" I can understand having a license system to prevent groups from "double broadcasting" on the radio or analog television, but why is the government guaranteeing certain networks a constant stream of revenue by selecting certain channels that all cable customers must pay for?
The government should deregulate and allow cable companies to offer something like 25 channels for $25 so the customer can pick and choose what channels they want to watch instead of being forced to pay for 10's of channels they won't watch (cough CBC cough) simply because they want cable. |
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Bugs
Joined: 16 Dec 2009
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| KindOfNeutral wrote: | This license has been, and should remain to be, reserved entirely for neutral new entities ONLY.
I'm saying this as a journalist, part of a large family of journalists, and as someone who has professionally researched the ramifications of politically driven news networks in the United States and the damage it's caused to the transparency of their political system as well as the American political process itself.
The culmination of politically driven news sources, left or right, is a terrible idea. It damages the national journalism industry, it damages the political process of the country, and is extremely effective at creating and exaggerating cultural differences to the point of hostility. It's an awful thing. |
This is a strange place to start your fight. Would you have us believe that the CBC-Newsworld doesn't have its own axe to grind?
I think any fair-minded objective person would concede that Fox news has as good journalists as any of the cable people, and better than most. Who can complain about Brit Hume, Shepard Smith, or Alan Colmes on grounds of a lack of professionalism? Hannity simply wears his heart on his sleeve, but he plays by the rules. O'Reilly is rambunctious and rude, at times, but he does dig.
I don't watch much US news because they dwell on stuff that, to me, is 'local news'. Not all, of course. But how much different is it from Canadian news, when it comes down to it -- I just don't care that much about Sarah Palin, etc.
On the other hand, the look at the most extreme Olberman pieces, and its kindergarten-level sophistication. (I particularly have his "Worst Person in the World" segment in mind.) Chris Matthews is almost as bad. Or Dylan Ratigan, on a tear. These guys are 'full of passion', as they say. The 'profession' seems to encourage it. The factual stuff may, in the end, merely be used to feed and groom negative stereotypes, because the story defines who's the good guy, and who's the bad, etc.
Isn't it in hearing different 'spins' on things that the reader comes to see the complexities of the issues?
Journalism in Canada is anything but objective. It doesn't even try to be, really. It wants the injection of drama into stories, to make they at least part of an unfolding narrative ... to which the reader is expected to become attached emotionally. True or not?
Does Glenn Beck even qualify as a 'journalist' in the professional sense? Don't get me wrong, he attracts a crowd with an approach that uncovers some genuinely newsworthy stuff the media -- not the reporters, the editors -- are ignoring. But he isn't a reporter -- he's turns a few researchers out on topics, and uses their findings to document how events are connected. But he isn't reporting news and commentary as it happens. He's serving the information needs of the Tea Party and fellow travellers.
Isn't that legit?
What I don't want to see is another MSNBC. We have enough guys blabbing the news, but none of them can tell us (really) why Michael Bryant never had to go to a trial ... they don't even ask the question!
Why are the OPP protecting the law-breakers in Caledonia? The media averts their eyes. They pretend it's a land dispute. The have a blackout on an civil insurrection going on in Ontario.
Do they think Ontarians don't need to know? Or do they worry that Ontarians might come to a different conclusion than they are allowed to have?
You say you have deep family roots in the black art of journalism, and that why you support the present family compact controlling the media in Canada to keep the fresh air out. I just don't know if those are bona fides in this discussion, given the recent record. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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While I disagree with the concept of a "must carry" license, I totally support Sun TV's fight to get one under the current conditions of Cable TV in this country.
My preference would be to remove all "must carry" licenses, and open up all TV services to be offered a la carte. Nobody should be able to force me to receive and pay for their channel. If you can't get enough voluntary subscribers to make a go of it, you have no justification for existing.
The problem is, the current channels have an unfair advantage. They already are entrenched in the lineup, and already get the benefits of the "must carry" licenses. In order to compete in that environment, Sun TV is perfectly justified in asking for the same considerations that everyone else gets. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| bsenka wrote: | While I disagree with the concept of a "must carry" license, I totally support Sun TV's fight to get one under the current conditions of Cable TV in this country.
My preference would be to remove all "must carry" licenses, and open up all TV services to be offered a la carte. Nobody should be able to force me to receive and pay for their channel. If you can't get enough voluntary subscribers to make a go of it, you have no justification for existing.
The problem is, the current channels have an unfair advantage. They already are entrenched in the lineup, and already get the benefits of the "must carry" licenses. In order to compete in that environment, Sun TV is perfectly justified in asking for the same considerations that everyone else gets. |
There's a reason they're entrenched in the lineup. It's because they're neutral. CBC News is a *little* bit to the left, but the network isn't systematically left as a matter of policy. CTV NewsNet is entirely neutral.
Removing the must carry licenses is a TERRIBLE idea. One of the most important things to a transparent, open government is the easy access to neutral sources of news in order to distribute and process information. It's the same reason small newspapers got subsidies to be created; the flow of information is an important aspect to a functional voter-based system of government.
However, even though it is important, Sun TV should not have a license. A system in which the instruments for the distribution of information have a vested interest in what information is distributed is an inferior system to one that remains neutral, ESPECIALLY when it comes to politics and how to run the country. It creates a scenario where the opposing side is often demonized (read: how Fox News demonizes Democrats, and actually often "accidentally" posts Republican scandals as Democrats).
The license is important. It prevents the political climate from being as hostile and black/white as the American system, which has seen a large degredation in the intellectual base of its political climate since the introduction of systematically political news entities into the mainstream.
It should remain a channel you have to pay for out of pocket. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: |
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I disagree, at least it should be part of the news package that come with the BBC world news, Fox, CNN and MSNBC.
It's all complicated for me, but I believe they are now asking for a 'must offer' not a 'must carry'
It really is strange and funny how people are so willing to oppose it without knowing what it is as so far we've seen no proposals, all we know about Sun TV News is that it wants a mix of opinion and news. |
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teabag
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Location: Mississauga Ontario
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I have to be honest; you're really using a source from one of the involved parties in order to disparage the other involved party?
You really need to think critically in this case. That article is just a smear piece used to discredit the opposition, and apparently you fell for it. |
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