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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject: Factions of the other parties Reply with quote

It seems to me that every other day there's another thread about the different types of Conservatives. I think it's time we discuss the other parties' factions. Here are my ideas.

Liberal:

Blue Liberal/Red Tory: Those that are relativley right wing on several issues compared to most Grits (Paul Szabo or Scott Brison for example)

Green Libs: Stephane Dion style enviromentalists

Orange Grits: Those who have ideals similar to the NDP but are pragmatic enough to realise that being part of the NDP isn't exactly the fast track to a cabinet job


NDP

Populist NDP: Self explanatory, not NDP, so much as disliking the traditional parties. (Very rare nowadays)

Labour NDP: Pretty much any NDP from Hamilton or Windsor

Tweed NDP: Jack Layton style "Lets make us so left wing that no one will ever vote for us ever"


Bloc

Blue Bloc: Soft Nationalist, and Conservative. Similar to most rural Tories in English Canada

Red Bloc: Left Wing Seperatists in the Gilles Duceppe mould.

Thoughts? Comments?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's certainly some variety within each party but I suspect none are quite as diverse as the Conservatives... except possibly the Bloc which was originally made up of members from the three major parties... but I suspect Duceppe has successfully purged all non-socialist elements over the years.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Factions of the other parties Reply with quote

There is clearly a sharp divide in the Liberals between the right and the left. There is their is a wing that represents the business elite sort of group. Then there are the social activist types.

Martin/Turner would be the right, Trudeau/Chretian/Dion would be the left. At times they have feuded bitterly (Martin and Turner were pushed out by Trudeau/Chretian only to gain power once their enemy had left.
When Martin took over, he moved to purge some of the left types, most notably Sheila Cops.

The NDP is sort of split between the labour side, the green side and the social justice types. The green side is leaving to join the Greens though. The labour side has prevented much in the way of policy that would cost CAW jobs.

The Greens and BQ are intersting. They are both single issue parties, so they have conservative and socialist elements - althought much more socialist than conservative.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd argue that you should include the so-called "third way" New Democrats as a faction as well. Not so much populist, but instead more intuned with economic matters than the more idealistic factions of the party.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Power Liberals -- Backroom, corporate,mandarins ... They don't really have an opinion on policy and will do anything to regain power and influence.

Constitutional Dippers -- They shout "proportional representation", "abolish the senate", "recall", etc. A lot of BC Dippers also voted Reform federally.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually try to faction all the parties into who's there for the sport and who's there for the people. Sadly the majority seem to be there for the sport. Go team! :(
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Populist NDP: Self explanatory, not NDP, so much as disliking the traditional parties. (Very rare nowadays)

Labour NDP: Pretty much any NDP from Hamilton or Windsor

Tweed NDP: Jack Layton style "Lets make us so left wing that no one will ever vote for us ever"


Then there is Darrell Dexter who during the election called himself a "progressive liberal"???

I guess that's a Gary Doer socialist.
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