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FF_Canuck





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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:46 am    Post subject: Ezra unleashes on Ed "Second Choice" Stelmach Reply with quote

This is great stuff, related mostly to Stelmach shutting down substantive change to the Alberta HRC, to the point of increasing their budget by over $1 Million. But there's more general criticism as well. One of my favorite lines:
Ezra wrote:
Look, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Stelmach has made Alberta the worst-governed province in Canada. That was evident in his recent budget -- a $5-billion deficit when oil is still at $50/barrel...

LINK
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Ezra unleashes on Ed "Second Choice" Stelmach Reply with quote

FF_Canuck wrote:
This is great stuff, related mostly to Stelmach shutting down substantive change to the Alberta HRC, to the point of increasing their budget by over $1 Million. But there's more general criticism as well. One of my favorite lines:
Ezra wrote:
Look, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Stelmach has made Alberta the worst-governed province in Canada. That was evident in his recent budget -- a $5-billion deficit when oil is still at $50/barrel...

LINK


I wonder if this will force Ezra to run for the Wild Rose Alliance leadership, just to get HRC on the agenda.

I would still have to say Ontario is the worst run province.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Ezra unleashes on Ed "Second Choice" Stelmach Reply with quote

FF_Canuck wrote:
I would still have to say Ontario is the worst run province.


Ontario is not as bad as you make it out to be. I know you're an Ontarian but I'd rather be here than in socialist Quebec or even BC with their carbon tax.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Ezra unleashes on Ed "Second Choice" Stelmach Reply with quote

905 Tory wrote:
FF_Canuck wrote:
I would still have to say Ontario is the worst run province.


Ontario is not as bad as you make it out to be. I know you're an Ontarian but I'd rather be here than in socialist Quebec or even BC with their carbon tax.


With the way McGuinty is heading, everything will be banned by his government.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Ezra unleashes on Ed "Second Choice" Stelmach Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:

With the way McGuinty is heading, everything will be banned by his government.


Banned? You mean driving while talking on your cellphone, or smoking with a child in the car or the $24 two-four? What'd you expect? Its McGuinty and the Liberals.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Ezra unleashes on Ed "Second Choice" Stelmach Reply with quote

905 Tory wrote:
SFrank85 wrote:

With the way McGuinty is heading, everything will be banned by his government.


Banned? You mean driving while talking on your cellphone, or smoking with a child in the car or the $24 two-four? What'd you expect? Its McGuinty and the Liberals.


Just think, these acts were created because he ran out of policies; just imagine what his government would continue to do with ideas!

I would much rather live in Ontario than in Quebec, but Quebec has a successful government in taking out every last dime out of the rest of us!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our release on this issue.

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Wildrose Alliance Party
NEWS RELEASE

April 29, 2009

Is Alberta Becoming a Banana Republic?

For Immediate Release

Calgary - The PC government's muzzling of its Minister of Culture and Community Spirit is the latest attempt by the Stelmach regime to stifle freedom in Alberta, and is a frightening look into a potential future where a cowed populace huddles in fear of elites, politicians and special interests.

"It's a tough time for principled people to be involved with the Government of Alberta," says Wildrose Alliance leader Paul Hinman. "It wasn't long ago that Stelmach punted Chief Electoral Office Lorne Gibson when his honest attempts at electoral reform threatened to force the PC's into running fair elections. Now he's riding roughshod over Lindsay Blackett's attempts to rein in an out-of-control "human rights"
commission. What's next, Thought Police?"

Alberta's flawed Human Rights legislation had led to attempts by some people or groups to stifle debate and free speech, hallmarks of our society and Minister Blackett had said he wanted to ensure the legislation could no longer be used that way. Yet now the Stelmach government apparently believes that Albertans need to balance freedom of speech with "responsibility". Who will determine "responsibility"?
Apparently, it will be the same unelected "Human Rights" thought police who will now have a fatter budget (in a time of record deficit) to work with. How is that free speech?

"If Premier Stelmach wants to ensure no one's feelings are hurt he could have started by not offending freedom-loving Albertans by pushing a principled minister out of the way when he was clearly trying to do his job well," says Hinman, who reminds voters that in the past several months not only has the yoke of forced politically correct speech been tightened around Albertans' throats, but democratic reforms aimed at more free and open elections have been thwarted, property rights undermined, investment driven from the province and record deficits forced on Albertans. "And whenever a cabinet minister or bureaucrat tries to do the right thing for Albertans, the result ends up being what's right for the Stelmach government, instead."

The Wildrose Alliance believes in true equality without artificial pigeonholing by race, religion, gender etc. Further, the Alliance believes in limited government, fiscal responsibility and democratic accountability.
These are straightforward conservative positions that show clearly the Wildrose Alliance the only true conservative party in Alberta.

"Perhaps it's time the PC party employed truth in advertising and started calling themselves the Progressive Party," Hinman says, "Because it's obvious that they are no longer conservative. And that's to the detriment of the province."

The Wildrose Alliance says it's time to rebuild the Alberta Advantage using the values and policies that made Alberta such a beacon of hope for Canadians from all regions.

FOR MORE INFORMATION:

Paul Hinman
Wildrose Alliance leader
Phone: 403 393-2003


info@wildrosealliance.ca
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon Morton! Pull a Klein and organize a caucus revolt against Ed!
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a fan of Ezra, he is a loud mouth and is not good at presenting his arguments in a serious journalistic sense. I would put him in the same boat as Bill O'Reily when it comes to reliability. However, I do fully agree that Stelmach is useless and Alberta needs a new leader fast. Further, the AHRC and other HRC's across the country are not very well set out.

One thing that is of interest is that the AHRC and other HRC's are created under simple acts. They continuously infringe on freedom of speech. As Levant has said several times, freedom of speech is in the Charter of Rights, the paramount legal document in Canada. Arguably, the AHRC and HRC are breaching the Charter. Maybe the next time the AHRC and HRC makes one of these stupid decisions a group should sue them for Charter breaches. I think hearing what the Supreme Court thinks of this kangaroo court would be a amusing read as they would scold the hell out of it.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SmartCon wrote:
I'm not a fan of Ezra, he is a loud mouth and is not good at presenting his arguments in a serious journalistic sense. I would put him in the same boat as Bill O'Reily when it comes to reliability. However, I do fully agree that Stelmach is useless and Alberta needs a new leader fast. Further, the AHRC and other HRC's across the country are not very well set out.

One thing that is of interest is that the AHRC and other HRC's are created under simple acts. They continuously infringe on freedom of speech. As Levant has said several times, freedom of speech is in the Charter of Rights, the paramount legal document in Canada. Arguably, the AHRC and HRC are breaching the Charter. Maybe the next time the AHRC and HRC makes one of these stupid decisions a group should sue them for Charter breaches. I think hearing what the Supreme Court thinks of this kangaroo court would be a amusing read as they would scold the hell out of it.

When HRC cases go to "real" courts, the stupid decisions get overturned. The problem is most folks cannot afford to bring a case to the upper courts. In other words, the HRCs are picking on those who cannot defend themselves.

Ezra was a publisher, not a journalist. While he might be loud and brash, Ezra is a true Canadian hero for confronting the HRCs and his continued work to "de-normalize" the HRCs. If you haven't read his book yet, I recommend it highly!

-Mac
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:


Ezra was a publisher, not a journalist. While he might be loud and brash, Ezra is a true Canadian hero for confronting the HRCs and his continued work to "de-normalize" the HRCs. If you haven't read his book yet, I recommend it highly!

-Mac


Yeah, I have been meaning to pick it up actually. Rex Murphy gave it a great review. Ezra is a good advocate on this issue, he is just an idiot on many others is my problem. He often writes to just get a reaction. Its mere entertainment reading and I hope others know that. However, his fight against the AHRC is a legit one.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
When HRC cases go to "real" courts, the stupid decisions get overturned. The problem is most folks cannot afford to bring a case to the upper courts. In other words, the HRCs are picking on those who cannot defend themselves.-Mac


It's not just that. In a real court, the loser (including plantiffs) has to pay the other sides cost not to mention any other additional fees. In the HRCs, the plantiffs pays nothing. Actually, that's not true. In the HRCs, the plantiffs get paid by the HRCs. It's ass effing backwards.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SmartCon wrote:
I'm not a fan of Ezra, he is a loud mouth and is not good at presenting his arguments in a serious journalistic sense.


Please post a single YouTube clip of him not presenting his arguments in a "serious journalistic sense". He is passionate - no doubt. But every click I have seen of him is articulate, substantive, and coherent.
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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ezra may be a loudmouth, but he does not by any means embarrass himself in a debate.
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
Ezra may be a loudmouth, but he does not by any means embarrass himself in a debate.


I never said anything about his debating skills. He was quite the debater in university. I said he lacks journalism skills and his colums show this. Many are simple rants, hence why I compare him to Bill O'Reily.
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