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DavidK





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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Alberta farmer charged with shooting suspected thief Reply with quote

I'm behind the guy 100% - we should be able to protect our homes and property

Maybe Mr. Knight did the guy a favour, maybe he'll think twice before stealing anything again!
WBD





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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link to Brian's legal fund if you feel so inclined:

http://www.brianknightlegalfund.com/

Hope it gets to a jury of his peers. A guilty verdict would be unlikely.

Bill in Calgary
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this is what forty years of Liberalism has done for Canada, prosecute the victim to protect the poor criminal, something is definetely wrong here, many of us live in remote areas where police are not readily available, it seems that each year various governments keep taking more of our rights to protect ourselves so the poor misguided criminal won't get hurt.
If I were on the jury I know what my ruling would be....NOT GUILTY

I prefer to carry a gun, a cops too heavy
Some Guy 2.0





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its all in the socialists plans... Take away our abilities to defend ourselves so that we rely entirely on police. Then, one day, they send in sweeping legislation giving the police awesome power over thought and action, in order to "protect" us.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Hoffer wrote:
Its all in the socialists plans... Take away our abilities to defend ourselves so that we rely entirely on police. Then, one day, they send in sweeping legislation giving the police awesome power over thought and action, in order to "protect" us.


What's that Patrick Henry quote again? Oh yeah, "Give me Liberty, or give me Death!" Granted, it was in a different context when he said it in 1775, but I think I can use it here. If you lose the right to control your own life, especially personal security, it is over.
Rusty Bedsprings





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This story is truly ridiculous :roll:
Mac





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to play the devil's advocate for a moment...

I think (or at least I hope) we all agree that Knight was well within his rights to have a firearm to protect himself and his property... but what justification does Knight have for discharging his firearm?

The thieves were running away. Knight had successfully retrieved his property. Were the thieves threatening him by fleeing? I'm fairly sure they'll think twice about stealing an ATV now but vigilantism is the nemesis of justice.

-Mac
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vermin putting his rural livelihood at risk and Resisting a Citizens Arrest

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Arrest without Warrant and Release from Custody

494.Arrest without warrant by any person
(1) Any one may arrest without warrant
(a) a person whom he finds committing an indictable offence; or
(b) a person who, on reasonable grounds, he believes
(i) has committed a criminal offence, and
(ii) is escaping from and freshly pursued by persons who have lawful authority to arrest that person.

Arrest by owner, etc., of property
(2) Any one who is
(a) the owner or a person in lawful possession of property, or
(b) a person authorized by the owner or by a person in lawful possession of property,
may arrest without warrant a person whom he finds committing a criminal offence on or in relation to that property.

Delivery to peace officer
(3) Any one other than a peace officer who arrests a person without warrant shall forthwith deliver the person to a peace officer.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 449; R.S., c. 2(2nd Supp.), s. 5.


Criminal Code of Canada section 494
Forward





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
Just to play the devil's advocate for a moment...

I think (or at least I hope) we all agree that Knight was well within his rights to have a firearm to protect himself and his property... but what justification does Knight have for discharging his firearm?

The thieves were running away. Knight had successfully retrieved his property. Were the thieves threatening him by fleeing? I'm fairly sure they'll think twice about stealing an ATV now but vigilantism is the nemesis of justice.

-Mac


Of course :roll: What . . . a . . . "surprise".
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
Just to play the devil's advocate for a moment...

I think (or at least I hope) we all agree that Knight was well within his rights to have a firearm to protect himself and his property... but what justification does Knight have for discharging his firearm?

The thieves were running away. Knight had successfully retrieved his property. Were the thieves threatening him by fleeing? I'm fairly sure they'll think twice about stealing an ATV now but vigilantism is the nemesis of justice.

-Mac


I actually agree with that. The charges should be downgraded, however once he retrieved his property, and the thugs were running away, he should not have fired off his gun.

However, after hearing that it took police two hours to show up, that is a real problem.
Rusty Bedsprings





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Mac wrote:
Just to play the devil's advocate for a moment...

I think (or at least I hope) we all agree that Knight was well within his rights to have a firearm to protect himself and his property... but what justification does Knight have for discharging his firearm?

The thieves were running away. Knight had successfully retrieved his property. Were the thieves threatening him by fleeing? I'm fairly sure they'll think twice about stealing an ATV now but vigilantism is the nemesis of justice.

-Mac


Yes but he did not fire it at the criminals, as far as I can tell they were warning shots. Warning shots I think should be legal, especially when you are alone.
Forward





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
Mac wrote:
Just to play the devil's advocate for a moment...

I think (or at least I hope) we all agree that Knight was well within his rights to have a firearm to protect himself and his property... but what justification does Knight have for discharging his firearm?

The thieves were running away. Knight had successfully retrieved his property. Were the thieves threatening him by fleeing? I'm fairly sure they'll think twice about stealing an ATV now but vigilantism is the nemesis of justice.

-Mac


I actually agree with that. The charges should be downgraded, however once he retrieved his property, and the thugs were running away, he should not have fired off his gun.

However, after hearing that it took police two hours to show up, that is a real problem.


Yeah, he should go to jail, just - you know, just umm not for too long, right?
RuralandRight





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Bedsprings wrote:

Yes but he did not fire it at the criminals, as far as I can tell they were warning shots. Warning shots I think should be legal, especially when you are alone.


The warning shots hit one of the criminals ...

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"We believe the farmer exited his car and discharged two rounds to the suspect with a shotgun," said acting Sgt. Jim Lank of the RCMP.

The suspected thief was treated in Edmonton for non-life threatening injuries and is still recovering.


... buck shot is a real bitch to dig out.

Knight captured a criminal who would be free to commit more crimes if he hadn't been wounded. I support Knights actions and bravery 100%.
SFrank85





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forward wrote:
SFrank85 wrote:
Mac wrote:
Just to play the devil's advocate for a moment...

I think (or at least I hope) we all agree that Knight was well within his rights to have a firearm to protect himself and his property... but what justification does Knight have for discharging his firearm?

The thieves were running away. Knight had successfully retrieved his property. Were the thieves threatening him by fleeing? I'm fairly sure they'll think twice about stealing an ATV now but vigilantism is the nemesis of justice.

-Mac


I actually agree with that. The charges should be downgraded, however once he retrieved his property, and the thugs were running away, he should not have fired off his gun.

However, after hearing that it took police two hours to show up, that is a real problem.


Yeah, he should go to jail, just - you know, just umm not for too long, right?


Maybe community service. I think jail time is too much.
Rusty Bedsprings





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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

randr wrote:
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The warning shots hit one of the criminals ...


yes but apparently the 4 stray pellets barly broke the skin :roll:
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