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RCO





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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:56 am    Post subject: Ontario Grits $ 1000 gift to you Reply with quote

Grits' $1,000 gift to you
Three cheques on way as GST, PST to become one in today's budget

By ANTONELLA ARTUSO, QUEEN'S PARK BUREAU CHIEF

Last Updated: 26th March 2009, 3:48am

The Dalton McGuinty government is sending $1,000 to all households in the province that earn less than $160,000 a year, Sun Media has learned.

Three cheques, totalling $1,000, will be sent out to eligible households. The measure will be formally detailed when the Liberal government unveils its budget this afternoon in the Ontario legislature.

The province's financial blueprint will also go forward with a controversial plan to harmonize the GST and PST, but make exemptions for a number of products.

The 8% PST will not be added to children's clothing and shoes, books, feminine hygiene products, child car seats, diapers and new homes under $400,000.

McGuinty said yesterday that the budget was designed to help struggling families and to boost the sagging economy.

Ontario will plunge into deficit today as the budget will unleash a spending spree that's supposed to snap the province out of its fiscal funk.

The provincial government -- broadsided by a $3-billion corporate revenue plunge in the last three months of 2008 -- has announced an increase of $11.5 billion in stimulus infrastructure spending and a deficit of $18 billion over the next two years.

There will also be an acceleration of the Ontario Child Benefit to a maximum of $1,100 per child.

"It's certainly been challenging in terms of trying to figure out what is the best way forward," McGuinty admitted. "It's amazing what I've heard that could be now labelled as stimulus. It would be easy for us to run a $100-billion deficit under the broad rubric of stimulus."

McGuinty continued to be pressed by opposition MPPs yesterday who said that now is not the time to harmonize the GST and PST because it will mean a tax increase on many products, such as home heating energy costs.

"This will further stymie the economy and it's just a wrong move at the wrong time," Tory MPP Joyce Savoline said, noting the tax burden on a $400,000 new home would rise by $32,000.

It has taken several years to complete the harmonization process in other provinces.

HAD TO LAUGH

NDP MPP Gilles Bisson said he had to laugh when McGuinty suggested yesterday his deficit can't be compared to the much-maligned $12.4-billion deficit record set by the NDP government of the early 1990s.

Bisson said the Liberals now say deficits are a "good thing" despite arguing just the opposite when they were sitting on the other side of the legislature.

McGuinty said his budget will include a plan to eliminate the deficit over several years.

Ontario's debt stood at $162 billion as of last March 31 with an average borrowing cost of 5.76%.

TD Bank chief economist Don Drummond said Ontario has had a structural deficit since the late 1980s, only going into the black during periods of deep spending cuts or spectacular economic growth.

"They've only balanced the budget three times and it was under extraordinary circumstances all three times," Drummond said


http://www.torontosun.com/news.....6-sun.html
RCO





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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

forget about the recession , the deficit , dalton's broken promises , new opposition leaders , dalton's giving you free money .

didn't harris try something like this around 2000 ? or so , when he sent out a cheque to all taxpayers for 100 dollars or so ? wonder what the liberals said of that idea back then ?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RCO wrote:
forget about the recession , the deficit , dalton's broken promises , new opposition leaders , dalton's giving you free money .

didn't harris try something like this around 2000 ? or so , when he sent out a cheque to all taxpayers for 100 dollars or so ? wonder what the liberals said of that idea back then ?


Harris sent out $500 cheques to everyone within weeks of taking office in 1995. Keeping a promise, I might add!

The problem is that we are going to be paying 8% more for things that we really need. Therefore this is just a ploy to get people looking in the other direction.
RCO





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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
RCO wrote:
forget about the recession , the deficit , dalton's broken promises , new opposition leaders , dalton's giving you free money .

didn't harris try something like this around 2000 ? or so , when he sent out a cheque to all taxpayers for 100 dollars or so ? wonder what the liberals said of that idea back then ?


Harris sent out $500 cheques to everyone within weeks of taking office in 1995. Keeping a promise, I might add!

The problem is that we are going to be paying 8% more for things that we really need. Therefore this is just a ploy to get people looking in the other direction.


and the reality is many ontario residents have lost thousads of dollars since mcguinty took power , think how much someone who has lost there job has lost ,a $ 1000 dollars is nothing when considering how much a full time salary at say a manufacturing plant pays . so this isn't going to do much when considering how much the average person has lost in the last couple of years .
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And in reality is that despite the fact that this Mcguinty character has wasted your tax dollars it seems that the people of Ontario seem to enjoy their money being spent. Otherwise this Mcguinty would not have been given another mandate.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hasdrubal wrote:
And in reality is that despite the fact that this Mcguinty character has wasted your tax dollars it seems that the people of Ontario seem to enjoy their money being spent. Otherwise this Mcguinty would not have been given another mandate.


Dude, for the umteenth time, McGuinty was running against John Tory. Everybody's beaten John Tory.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The $1,000 rebate won't be issued until the HST is implemented, in about a year and a half. That means the cheques will start rolling in a little before the next election in 2011. What a masterful plan McSlippery has crafted. Bribe Ontarians with their own money to win votes.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice check a few weeks before an election. :roll:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love how the MSM hardly touches this... Oh, but they aren't biased!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Love how the MSM hardly touches this... Oh, but they aren't biased!


Oh, they talk about it, about how Mcguilty care about families.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Harris sent out $500 cheques to everyone within weeks of taking office in 1995. Keeping a promise, I might add!


Harris did it a few times actually.

He sent out cheques to pay for the daycare costs for parents who were inconvenienced during the teacher strikes. He said that the money came from what they were saving by not having to pay teachers.

He also sent out cheques after the government budget was in surplus saying that he was returning the money to taxpayers.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More "I won't raise your taxes", taxes :evil: ... again :evil: !

There were a lot of ticked off people at work today over this new tax, more ticked off then the heath care premium "I won't raise your taxes", tax.

This McGuinty HST will be a reminder of the new taxes every time someone sees HST on their bills and receipts.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The McGuinty SHIT. Super High Integrated Tax.

I expect a job offer from the Ontario PC Party any day, and a lawsuit from Dalton in similar time. Oh well.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

randr wrote:
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More "I won't raise your taxes", taxes ... again !


ya eh :roll:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And not once they McGuinty talk about curbing government spending. What's he care. He's going to be out of a job in a couple of years and it'll be someone else's problem.
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