A plan to overthrow Harper?

kwlafayette · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject:

Yes, what the nanny staters and socialists fail to realize, is that it is government regulation that creates the boom bust cycle in the first place. How can government be trusted to solve the problem that it created? Only in the minds of the statists.

WestViking · Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 1192 votes: 27

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kwlafayette · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject:

Totally deregulated, yep. You could not even lift the pile of books with all the current regulation printed in 6 point type. Yeah, no regulation to see, not even one. US corporation operate outside of all law. Yep.

PS. I know, you are about to deny that you are nanny staters, or socialists, or whatever; you are only making common cause with them. Once you get capitalism properly fettered, and enough government regulation in place, you will go back to opposing the socialists. Let me know how that works out for you.

WestViking · Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 1192 votes: 27

kwlafayette · Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject:

As I said, once you get all the regulations you want in place, and you are done making common cause with anti-capitalists, let me know how that worked out. If it comes out the way you thought it would. Until then, I am simply not interested in anything you have to say, so stop your whinging, stop your crying, and suck it up.

WestViking · Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 1192 votes: 27

FF_Canuck · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:09 am Post subject:

Government activism played a huge role in creating this mess - everything from poorly concieved regulations like the CRA, to manipulations of the market through institutions like F Mac and F Mae, to abuse of fractional reserve banking systems and active interference with legitimate regulatory bodies ... the list goes on.

There is a role for prudent, macro level regulation, as even Hayek and Mises acknowledged. However, joining the crying over the 'failure of capitalism' due to a 'lack of regulations' is conceding control of the narrative to the corrupt, nepotistic politicians, bureacrats, and corporate bagmen that led the US down the garden path in the first place. The cheque you think you're endorsing for sound management is being cashed to wage class warfare.

kwlafayette · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:06 am Post subject:

That is precisely the thing that so many people do not get. They think that they can police the process, they can be the reasonable voice, and only reasonable and well thought out regulation will get through in the end. Then, at the end of the process, they believe that the enemies of capitalism will be satisfied, and will stop pushing for more.

The truth is, the socialists want to pin this one on capitalism, and if they succeed, things will get worse. It is very simple, very black and white. If you want to stop socialism, then you actually have to, at some point, disagree with the stated goals of the socialists.

mowich · Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 26

Should a leadership review become an issue, I believe that Stephen Harper has much to account for. His behaviour in the first sitting of Parliament was simply stupid. Though he seems to have toned down his animosity for the opposition, he must not show his arrogance towards them. I was pleased with his performance at the G8 and am willing to back him for the present.

JBG · Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 736 votes: 8 Location: NYC Area

cbasu · Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 287 votes: 1

A new poll from Ekos/CBC -- Conservatives 30, Liberals 37; Conservatives polling below the NDP in Quebec at 10%.

On another front, Lawrence Martin of the G&M opines that the Tories can't sell another Albertan leader and feels that Charest is the Saviour-in-Waiting. I'm willing to bet that the "Conservative source" in Martin's column is Goldy Hyder :-)

ezbeatz · Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject:

OMG, I laughed when I saw that poll. They have the Tories at 32% in ON and only 31% in SK/MB. 31%!!! The Libs are at 39% in SK/MB. They had the Liberals at 25% and the NDP at 5% in AB. And they had the Libs ahead of the Tories in BC.

So, in the four provinces with 92 seats of which the Liberals only won 7 last election, they're now leading in 3 of the 4 provinces and 2nd in Alberta. YEAH RIGHT! EKOS did this poll with the CBC so I'm assuming they only polled listeners to CBC Radio 1.

Surprise! Jack Layton, Lizzy May, Iggo Waffle, and Duceppe all polled better on the approval index than Harper.

ezbeatz · Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject:

From the same poll.

Role for diversity in building a more tolerant society
Q. Which of the following two statements comes closest to your own point of view?

Having a multicultural blend of different cultures provides a richer, more tolerant society - 64%
Too much diversity can weaken a society and it would be better if we all subscribed to the same values and culture - 31%
DK/NR - 5%

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