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Do you respect John Tory?
Yes
28%
 28%  [ 6 ]
No
71%
 71%  [ 15 ]
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ezbeatz





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: John "Sorry" Tory Reply with quote

So John Tory won't step down even though he promised to step down at the end of the year.

How long will he stay on? Your thoughts on John Tory's leadership?
Rusty Bedsprings





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's failed in politics, he's done at any level.
SFrank85





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he will be forced out!
DavidK





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
I think he will be forced out!


Really? The Reds and the girly men love him too much, I think
Mac





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think John Tory must use an electric shaver since there's no way he can look at himself in the mirror to use a razor.

-Mac
SFrank85





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DavidK wrote:
SFrank85 wrote:
I think he will be forced out!


Really? The Reds and the girly men love him too much, I think


The caucus will revolt against him, when the calendar gets closer to 2011, they will force him out!
ezbeatz





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
DavidK wrote:
SFrank85 wrote:
I think he will be forced out!


Really? The Reds and the girly men love him too much, I think


The caucus will revolt against him, when the calendar gets closer to 2011, they will force him out!


2011? Frank, that's forever! Besides, that's when the next election is. He should be forced out now to give the next OPC leader a couple of years to get his feat wet.
SFrank85





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I donít think it will take place in 2011, maybe in 2010. But as the next election nears, John Tory will not be the leader.
DavidK





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
I donít think it will take place in 2011, maybe in 2010. But as the next election nears, John Tory will not be the leader.


I'm not a member of the Ontario PCs, but I may go to the convention in the Falls next month. I wonder if we'll see anything come out of there.
ezbeatz





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
I donít think it will take place in 2011, maybe in 2010. But as the next election nears, John Tory will not be the leader.


Fix election dates every four years in Ontario Frank. 2007 was the last one so 2011 is the next one.
SFrank85





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ezbeatz wrote:
SFrank85 wrote:
I donít think it will take place in 2011, maybe in 2010. But as the next election nears, John Tory will not be the leader.


Fix election dates every four years in Ontario Frank. 2007 was the last one so 2011 is the next one.


I know, but I am saying as the election gets closer, Tory will be forced out. I think come 2010, he will be forced out!
connerygta





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Tory needs to go. Now.

We are still sufferering from his performance in 2007.

All he had to do was announce "The election is only 3 weeks away...however, in my travels across the province I have HEARD the voices of the public. I'm a man of strong convictions, and one of my strongest convictions is listening to the people I hope you trust me enough to vote for to become Premier of our wonderful province. Therefore, after careful consideration and...careful listening...effective immediately we are changing our platform on religious school funding. I personally believe in this, but my government promises to have a province-wide referendum on this issue with the first year. This way, you the public can decide. Your concerns have been heard, and unlike "the evil bag of union paid and bought for scum"* that currently misrules Ontario, we will work for everyone in this province when you elect me Premier."

We likely would have had Premier Tory and Daulton would be representing CUPE local whatever somewhere.

*perhaps use another term 8)
TorontoCon





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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tory can't win. The whole BAD IDEA of tinkering with the education system will drag him down in the next election as well.

The sooner he leaves, the better for the party.

The cons need a new identity in Ontario and Tory's face will forever be linked to the BAD IDEA that tanked his campaign last time around.
Cool Blue





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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually think Tory could win IF:

1) he's able to rally the conservative base with a platform that appeals to them

(he should also emphasize his "team" instead of focusing on himself in order to appeal to conservatives who don't think much of him

2) if the Ontario economy is in the tanker (likely)


However, I don't have much faith in Tory doing the right thing so I don't give him good odds.
ezbeatz





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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Blue wrote:
However, I don't have much faith in Tory doing the right thing so I don't give him good odds.


If John Tory wins, how many votes will he win by, what popular percentage will he receive. The PC MPP won about 49% of vote in 2007 and the Liberal candidate 30%.
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