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Capitalist Pig





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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:46 am    Post subject: Just Curious Reply with quote

I was curious if people have these thoughts. Joining another party, you hate, and sabotaging it in some way.I don't mean burn down their headquarters, but I mean like run as them, win and say things really stupid that embarrass the party.

Just for a funny note, go to a NDP favorable riding, try to get the NDP nomination to run and after the election, immediately cross the floor to the conservatives.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Just Curious Reply with quote

Capitalist Pig wrote:
I was curious if people have these thoughts. Joining another party, you hate, and sabotaging it in some way.I don't mean burn down their headquarters, but I mean like run as them, win and say things really stupid that embarrass the party.

Just for a funny note, go to a NDP favorable riding, try to get the NDP nomination to run and after the election, immediately cross the floor to the conservatives.


I think it would be very hard to do. You would need a large number of people, and large conspiracys always fail.

On the other hand, I can think of a number of MP's who may have followed your advice. I somehow suspect that Grewall character was an undercover Liberal :-). Dion could have been a Conservative sleeper agent.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think it would be very hard to do. You would need a large number of people, and large conspiracys always fail.


JFK

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I somehow suspect that Grewall character was an undercover Liberal . Dion could have been a Conservative sleeper agent.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting thought, C-P. I expect some of the folks in David Emerson's former riding felt that's what they experienced! I think Harper set some kind of record by getting Emerson to cross the floor so quickly...

Grewal wasn't a Liberal sleeper. He tried to do the right thing but he was unskilled compared to Ujjal Dosanjh. If Grewal had taken his concerns to the RCMP rather than doing his amateur spy routine, the results might have been completely different.

Dion is too much of a socialist to be a Conservative sleeper.

If there's one Liberal sleeper around, it's provincially... and his name is John Tory!

-Mac
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's nothing I'd do, but I can't help but think of it.

Take the riding Elizabeth May ran in. Peter Mackay got like 46% of the vote or something like that. And basically May and the NDP split the remaining 54%. The Liberals didn't run, so a lot dropped into the Green. Obviously, the riding has been conservative for decades, but if the NDP stepped down, there is a chance that Green could take it. I just couldn't help, but think that I'd have to step in and try something if such a case happened.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Just Curious Reply with quote

Capitalist Pig wrote:
Joining another party, you hate, and sabotaging it in some way.


Never really crossed my mind, but I did subscribe to the NDP and Liberal e-mailing lists. Nothing like a good laugh all the while learning about the antics of the opposition!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a member of our (Conservative) EDA who keeps a Liberal membership card as well, just to be 'in the loop'...

This was an issue in the Presidential Primaries this year, apparently. Many states had 'open primaries', which allowed independants or Democrats to vote in Republican primaries, and vice-versa - the Democrats were suspected of organizing to vote for McCain in the early open contests, while Rush Limbaugh spear-headed a grass roots effort by conservatives to vote in later Democratic primaries for Clinton.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mabey people do do this but after a while of being with and acting like there enemy they become them and are lost forever. :shock:
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since the NDP and Green vote eat into Lib support, I've often thought of helping the NDP or Greens during the campaign around here.

Both those parties locally are very disorganized.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anything to helo the tories lol
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FF_Canuck wrote:
I know a member of our (Conservative) EDA who keeps a Liberal membership card as well, just to be 'in the loop'...


I thought that was against both parties rules?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
FF_Canuck wrote:
I know a member of our (Conservative) EDA who keeps a Liberal membership card as well, just to be 'in the loop'...


I thought that was against both parties rules?

It is against the rules, as well as the NDP's rules. They all require you to not be a member of any other federal party. However, you can be a member of, say, the federal CPC and the provincial Libs. Apparently this is common in BC.
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