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What type of Torie do you consider yourself to be?
Blue
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Red
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ConservateurQc





Joined: 08 Mar 2009
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Location: Québec

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
905 Tory wrote:
I am blue all the way. However, just to bring in the previous discussion about same-sex marriage. I think that as a government, they shouldn't be getting involved in marriage. Its a religious institution. The most fair thing would be to re-name the government word of 'marriage' into 'civil union' (expanding the former definition of civil union). Therefore, religious institutions wouldn't be going crazy. Otherwise, the government has no choice but to offer marriage to any two people (from any sex).


That is a good common ground that I can agree with.


Me too. This is what I meant when I said that we should rethink marriage. And you can even call it whatever you want.
KerryForrest





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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm iffy on the types of Tories. I know I believe that smaller government, fiscal restraint, limited government involvement in private enterprise and lower taxes. This is why I supported the Reform party when I started becoming aware of politics as a late teen.

I don't have a stance on same sex issues. If they wish to marry or live in a civil union, have parades or such, it really doesn't seem to affect myself. Personal choice to be free to live as one wishes as long as one doesn't endanger others too much.

Abortion is a big quagmire. I personally dislike abortion, but I support the freedom of people to decide what they can live with.

I think the government has a role in my daily life to provide rule of law so I can be free to live life as I see right. Don't nanny me, but don't allow criminals to encroach on my life.

What type of Tory am I? One that believes that personal choice and personal responsibility is very important
potan





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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Social conservative: I believe the nuclear family is the single most important unit in our society, without strong families we are a civilization in decline.

"Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder."
Arnold J. Toynbee; A study of history, 1934-1961
Craig
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Social Conservative / Law and Order Conservative

- which, according to some, makes me a socialist (go figure).
905 Tory





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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fiscally conservative: Its not just a feeling against the tax system, spending needs to be reduced too, which this government hasn't done at all.

I'm very libertarian on the social issues, except for abortion (against it) and a few other minor details. I don't at all get offended when I see a gay married couple or a single mother or swearing on television--its the choice of individuals and if we let the government become our parent, well, we have let go of our individuality.
potan





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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
Social Conservative / Law and Order Conservative

- which, according to some, makes me a socialist (go figure).


I get called everything from a neo-conservative to a fascist pig. Not that i'm offended at someone calling me a neo-con. I like to tell liberals & libertarians that they can call me all these things but when Canada becomes an Islamic Caliphate, I can grow a beard and blend in just fine while they'll stand out.
Craig Smith





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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

potan wrote:
Craig wrote:
Social Conservative / Law and Order Conservative

- which, according to some, makes me a socialist (go figure).


I get called everything from a neo-conservative to a fascist pig. Not that i'm offended at someone calling me a neo-con. I like to tell liberals & libertarians that they can call me all these things but when Canada becomes an Islamic Caliphate, I can grow a beard and blend in just fine while they'll stand out.


My "beard" probably wouldn't cut it :(

Seriously though - I'd say that the fight against Islamic "extremism" (I use that term loosely to stay out of trouble) is probably the single biggest factor in all of my ideological viewpoints these days. Everything from environmentalism to free speech is predicated on that.
IanM





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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Hmmm Reply with quote

IM'S SCORE

Your scored 2.5 on Moral Order and -6.5 on Moral Rules.

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1. System: Conservatism
2. Ideology: Conservative NeoLiberalism
3. Party: Republican Party
4. Presidents: Ronald Reagan
5. 04' Election: George W. Bush
6. 08' Election: Ron Paul



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Cool Blue





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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Classical liberal here.
DavidK





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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d have to say Blue Tory, overall.

I’m socially conservative, more than anything. A traditionalist, I guess… I’m pro-life (expect for cases when the woman’s life is in danger) – If the person doesn’t want to care for the child, let someone adopt him or her, but do not take a life.

I believe in an individual’s right to protect themselves and their family.

I believe in maintaining strong justice system, as well as a strong military. And I also believe in less government.

As far as immigration goes I’m all for it. As long as people realize that they are in a different country and accept our way of life.

I think I move more to the left on issues such as welfare, healthcare and marijuana legalization – but only to a certain point.

I believe that everyone should have access to free healthcare and that a welfare system is always needed, set up for those that really do need it. But I do feel that private medical insurance should be available for those who can afford it - That way, the public system is less burdened and overrun.

I believe that society (and governments) should help those people who have a legitimate reason for why they cannot help themselves. If a person has a physical or mental disability and can’t work, then they can’t really help that. There should be something for them so they can live well.

If a person is injured, then they should receive help for as long as it takes to recover (as stated by their doctor) – If they try and cheat the system, they should be cut off and be forced to fend for themselves again.

Personally, I disagree with smoking marijuana and doing any kind of street drugs. However I do think that we spend way too much money going after small time offenders where cannabis in concerned. If people are going to smoke, and be responsible, we should allow them to given some conditions like:

- MJ is taxed to hell (like cigarettes) creating more revenues for the government
- People who commit crimes under the influence of the drug get tossed in jail – zero tolerance policy (I feel the same way about drunks too)

While I may sympathise with some more left-leaning policies I think of myself as Conservative and I don’t care what anyone says.
teenagetory





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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm solidly Blue Tory. I'm more Conservative on the fiscal side of things than on the social side, although I still lean to the right on social issues.

I believe in a strong military and justice system, with property and some limited gun rights enshrined in the constitution.

I believe that a man can do as he pleases with his own property, and the government should not be able to take it. I believe that one should be able to own a gun provided it is a model made for defending oneself (like a hand gun), or hunting (rifle or shotgun), but that things like assault rifles should remain in the hands of the miltary.

My immigration stance is pretty much the same as David K's; immigration is great as long as long as you realise that this is our house, so you live by our laws. I'm for legalising pot, and making it legal for those 18 and over, and removing the sin taxes on tobacco, liquor and gasoline.

Healthcare should be brought more to the right, with emergency services, and those with life threatening or chronic illnesses paid for by the governemnt, but all other things like check ups, mri's, or whatever, should be paid for either by insurance or in cash.

Welfare, should be provided, without any obligation, only to those unable to work. Welfare should be availible to those who are poor, but if we are going to be spending our tax dollars on them, we should expect some public works in return.

As for abortion, I am against it except in cases of the life of the mother. With SSM, I don't think that the government should not be involved in marriage at all. One should make a legal agreement about distribution of estates, or in the event that someone moves out. If the United Church wants to marry gays, well more power to them, as long as they don't try to bring my Presbyterian pastor to the HRC's for refusig to marry gays. (He's had to on occasion)

I think that tarrifs on absoloutley everything should be abolished, with free trade for all, and that taxes should be lower, and way flatter, and the vast majorites of social programs abolished, privatised, made optional to buy into, or made self funding

And that pretty much sums up my political beliefs, as a Conservative with a few libertarian tendencies
paisley_cross





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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More blue than red - support tougher penalties for violent crime, reform of our regulatory regime to make it less intrusive, shutting down any medical clinic that encourages people to remain addicts, reduction in taxes consistent with balanced budgets, reforming of the CHRA and removal of Section 13, a mixed public/private health care system. a responsible approach to EI where claimants must have a significant labor force attachment and above all a reworking of our immigration and refugee policies and a cleansing of the IRB.

Long guns should not be registered and our military needs to be adequately equipped. Support as free a trade as possible.

Not really interested in the socon stuff. Not a fan of SSM but it's settled law now and doesn't do any harm. As for abortion, only medically required abortions should be covered by medicare and I think we should have restrictions on PBAs and other late term abortions.

Two upcoming issues are euthanasia and polygamy, the latter thanks to our friends in Victoria. I don't think assisted suicide should be legalized but prosecutors should be given more flexibility in pursuing criminal charges, if at all. I don't think a polygamous relation is a marriage but what I think doesn't count. The courts will declare it to be a constitutional right.
Jody





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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I consider myself as a Conservative. :) On some Social issues I lean Libertarian, as everyone tells me..

I'm Pro-Life, but it also depends if the women was raped, support gay-marriage, go by tradition, not that religious but go to church every christmas...

On Fiscal issues I am a Fiscal Conservative.

So I guess I would be considered more blue then red?



When I was 13 I thought I was a Liberal, then a NDPer, (but I started learning about politics a bit more when I was 14, and 15 , I'm 15 right now). After I read all their ideas I was terrified (not really terrified but you get what I mean). I learned what Big, and Small Government was, and so on and so forth.
Until recently (1 weeks ago) everyone considered me a Social Liberal. Now they consider me a Fiscal Conservative, Libertarian, and Conservative. Weird.. I was always considered Left-Wing. O.O
Some Guy 2.0





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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't answer the question, because I'm borderline libertarian.
Mac





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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Hoffer wrote:
I can't answer the question, because I'm borderline libertarian.

That didn't stop the rest of us, Justin!

-Mac
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