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kwlafayette





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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheila wrote:
But it does rain, kwlafayette. Where do you think these pesticides go? Do they just disappear? They eventually make their way into the rivers and bodies of water all around us. And into our tap water. I don't feel that confident that our water is good, because they tell people not to eat the fish out of the river. But they turn around and tell you to come and swim in it. What is up with that?
"decay have erased its presence" is a common myth perpetuated by Monsanto "evil"
Yes, they do just disappear. This is not u-235 we are talking about here, with a half life of millions of years. These are short lived organic compounds.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that why Monsanto had to take "biodegradable" off of their packaging? If they didn't they would be lying.
Here's a little Canadian flavour to the Monsanto argument.
http://www.percyschmeiser.com/
Also check out the real stats behind GMO crops:
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/canadianFarmersGMOs.php


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The EU's decision to ban chemicals in products. Although this article is about the U.S., it will affect our ability to market our (chemical laden) products in other countries. As who knows how many other countries are going to follow this example.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....69_pf.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent, that means more and cheaper food for us. After a few years of going hungry, they will obviously rethink their backward ways.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Organic farming is increasing. Bad news for the poor

FROM farmers' markets to happy chickens, sales of organic food have rocketed in recent years. And to meet this demand, the share of farmland used for organic production has also increased in many rich countries. Switzerland has upped its share from under 2% in the mid-1990s to over 10% today, the highest in the OECD. But as global food prices soar, hurting the poor in particular, environmentalists may find organic farming trickier to promote. Organic farming produces far less than conventional intensive methods, and so more land must be farmed for the same yield.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, that coincides perfectly with their "over populated world" theory. Obviously, some people have to die, if my first sentence was not clear. The only problem would be that it won't generally be white people doing the dying, but maybe they can find a way to tweak their starvation plan.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the poor will die a slow and painful death from GMO Monsanto patented rice from Texas. Come on, you didn't see all that rice being distributed to China from the USA? You know the rice that has way less vitamins and nutrition than the organic kind. With all that crappy food, they will still die of starvation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheila wrote:
Yeah, the poor will die a slow and painful death from GMO Monsanto patented rice from Texas. Come on, you didn't see all that rice being distributed to China from the USA? You know the rice that has way less vitamins and nutrition than the organic kind. With all that crappy food, they will still die of starvation.


Technically, you are suggesting they would die of malnutrition. If they are eating, they couldn't die from starvation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are correct Bleatmop. :D
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwlafayette wrote:
Actually, that coincides perfectly with their "over populated world" theory. Obviously, some people have to die, if my first sentence was not clear. The only problem would be that it won't generally be white people doing the dying, but maybe they can find a way to tweak their starvation plan.

...you are one funny dude!! I'd give you some rep for that post but I think I'll wait till you post something so politically incorrect even I'm shocked:~)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patent for a Pig was released in 2005. Please spend 42 minutes and open your eyes.
http://dandelionsalad.wordpres.....-pig-2005/
Realize that Monsanto is not about feeding the world's hungry, it's all about patenting seed and livestock, and driving the price up. http://www.organicconsumers.or....._13754.cfm
What does our government say about it, you ask?
This " I do recognize that we do not necessarily know the long term effects of GMOs."
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheila wrote:
Yeah, the poor will die a slow and painful death from GMO Monsanto patented rice from Texas. Come on, you didn't see all that rice being distributed to China from the USA? You know the rice that has way less vitamins and nutrition than the organic kind. With all that crappy food, they will still die of starvation.


That makes perfect sense because the US constitutes 1.8% of the world rice production and China has only 39%.

The Us's strategy is to flood the Chinese rice market and starve their ideological enemy to death. Cool.

http://www.sagevfoods.com/Main.....uction.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://bulletin.sciencebusines...../art/7926/
The story of the basmati rice patent battle
Charles Goldfinger


Within the potentially rich but still largely unexplored lore of intellectual property (we are still waiting for an Isaiah Berlin of the history of IP), I came across a case that should be of considerable interest to the readers of this blog. It concerns a portfolio of US patents for basmati rice, the secular staple of the Indian continent.

This portfolio is owned by Texas company, Rice Tec, and has been accumulated since 1997. It is part of a larger movement of seeking IPR on products, which are traded globally. According to Jennifer Moulin, deputy executive of a specialised NGO, “Just a few decades ago, there were no patents on rice. Today, more than 600 have been filed.”

It should be perfectly clear that what RiceTec patented was not the genome of basmati rice or a genetically developed variety (RiceTec makes the point that all its products are natural). It was simply a hybrid of basmati obtained from cross-breeding with an US long rice variety.

In its wisdom, the US Patent Office in September 1997 judged the result, named basmati 867, sufficiently novel to grant it patent #5,663,484, entitled “Basmati Rice Lines and Grains”, giving RiceTec exclusive rights to any basmati hybrid grown anywhere in the western hemisphere. Besides the highly questionable “novelty” of the invention (cross-breeding has been practised for centuries, including by Punjabi farmers, who produced a variety of basmati rice), what is striking is the inequity and asymmetry of the approach.

By including basmati name into the patent definition, RiceTec could claim wide-ranging rights over a traditional name, for which it did not acknowledge the origin or the originality, let alone the copyright. The practical impact of RiceTec’s patent would be to jeopardise the prospects of Indian basmati rice suppliers seeking to export to the US and other western countries

The award of the basmati rice patent rapidly triggered a wave of protests and judicial challenges, initially from the US- and Canada-based NGOs and grass-roots organisations, which called for boycott of RiceTec products. Later, the Indian government approached the US Patent Office and urged it to re-examine the patent in order to protect the interests of India’s rice. It also took the issue to the World Trade Organization.

Rebranding


In 2002, as a result of judicial and political challenges, RiceTec withdrew 15 claims (out of 20), thus removing obstacles to Indian rice exports to the US. More significantly, the US Patent Office ordered that the title of the patent be changed to “Rice Lines Bas867, RT 1117 and RT1121”. RiceTec, which seeks to maintain the image of an ecological, all-natural-ingredients company, has rebranded its basmati-based products, Texmati, Jasmati and Kasmati, and studiously avoids any reference to its patent or patent litigation on its Web site,

The Indian government, for its part, is trying to reinforce its protection of the basmati brand. Last April, it introduced IP legislation on Geographical Indication (GI) of the origin of agricultural products (similar to the French Appellation Controlée system used for wine but also for meat and poultry). Initial hopes that similar legislation would be introduced in Pakistan have been disappointed, perhaps because Pakistani exports are considerably below the India’s one. Nevertheless, India intends to proceed on its own.

Basmati rice story is a morality tale, with a developing country taking on a US company and US institutions and winning. For some anti-globalist activists, it has become a myth, to the point when they discuss it as if a patent battle were still under way, when in fact it was decisively settled five years ago.

Watch the video, crazymamma!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Sheila I missed the part where the US is flooding the Chinese with substandard nutrients and starving them. Was that article supposed to be informative on that issue?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you must not have been watching tv after the quakes in China. U.S. rice by the bagful, being sent to China. It wasn't anything they said, pictures speak louder than words.
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