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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Can you spot the difference? Reply with quote

http://my.barackobama.com/page.....stimonials

http://209.85.173.104/search?q.....=firefox-a
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a joke - how do 'testimonials' help in such a case anyway? Especially faith based ones - I like him so you can too? Bunk! I think this is a lame approach and not very genuine for the campaigner...that said I find him spooky.

So what's the difference in the cached page and the current page? I can't tell except the entries at the top changed?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So long, Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr... While your endorsement was convenient when trying to fight rumours about a certain candidate's Muslim upbringing, video tapes of your racist sermons proved inconvenient.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....92077.html

I think Obama's response was pretty good. :D
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FascistLibertarian wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obama-race-speech-read-t_n_92077.html

I think Obama's response was pretty good. :D


Maybe you should read between the lines (Out of curiosity, did you watch/listen to it, or read the transcript?):

Obamessiah wrote:
"We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias.

But race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now. We would be making the same mistake that Reverend Wright made in his offending sermons about America - to simplify and stereotype and amplify the negative to the point that it distorts reality.

The fact is that the comments that have been made and the issues that have surfaced over the last few weeks reflect the complexities of race in this country that we've never really worked through - a part of our union that we have yet to perfect."


He then goes on to handwave personal responsibility, blames the problems of black Americans on past discrimination (slavery, segregations ...etc), explains how white Americans are unknowingly racist, middle-class America is being destroyed by globalization and evil corporations, and on and on. From there, a long screed on how all races must band together and embrace socialism and protectionism to defeat racism and other ills. And in case you missed it, he repeats it again: concern about the welfare state and illegal immigration means you're a racist.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FF_Canuck wrote:
He then goes on to handwave personal responsibility, blames the problems of black Americans on past discrimination (slavery, segregations ...etc), explains how white Americans are unknowingly racist, middle-class America is being destroyed by globalization and evil corporations, and on and on. From there, a long screed on how all races must band together and embrace socialism and protectionism to defeat racism and other ills. And in case you missed it, he repeats it again: concern about the welfare state and illegal immigration means you're a racist.

Isn't that the standard Democratic platform?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

donmuntean wrote:
What a joke - how do 'testimonials' help in such a case anyway? Especially faith based ones - I like him so you can too? Bunk!

Didn't God Himself endorse George W. Bush for President?

:lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this Obamassiah video was well done.
Some of the campaign posters you will see in the video were done by THIS GUY
He was hired by the Obama campaign ...very creepy!


Link
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A new poll suggests the speech hasn't gone over as well as Hoped: Link

Quote:
First, we screened poll respondents to find those who were aware that Obama’s pastor was in the news. A startling 82% knew about Obama’s speech, and about the controversy surrounding the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Of those who knew about the controversy and the speech, we asked, “Taking all this into account, are you more or less likely to support Obama for president?”

Less likely (52%)
More likely (19%)
About the same (27%)
No opinion (2%)

The poll was conducted March 19 among 1,051 Americans. After filtering out those not aware of Rev. Wright and Obama’s speech about him, the sample is 807, for a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2%. The data have been weighted for age, race, gender and partisan affiliation.


It is impossible to say why it was so poorly recieved. Interesting, nonetheless.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FF_Canuck wrote:
It is impossible to say why it was so poorly recieved. Interesting, nonetheless.

Very interesting... Can he afford to leave the subject alone and hope it'll fade away? Does he have another trick up his sleeve which might be more effective? Hmmm....

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
FF_Canuck wrote:
It is impossible to say why it was so poorly recieved. Interesting, nonetheless.

Very interesting... Can he afford to leave the subject alone and hope it'll fade away? Does he have another trick up his sleeve which might be more effective? Hmmm....

-Mac


I don't think he can afford to bring up the subject of race again, as people will inevitably be reminded of his associations with Wright. It may even neutralize his ability to play the race card against McCain in the general election, which was a huge potential advantage.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things are looking good for McCain. I can only imagine the dirt that the republican machine has dug up on Obama.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gc wrote:
donmuntean wrote:
What a joke - how do 'testimonials' help in such a case anyway? Especially faith based ones - I like him so you can too? Bunk!

Didn't God Himself endorse George W. Bush for President?

:lol:


He sure did! 8)
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