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FF_Canuck





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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: The future of the Liberal Party Reply with quote

With the latest volley of confidence bills and motions now passed, it seems Dion has led the federal Liberals into some kind of stasis where they are incapable of triggering an election.

Every showdown, the Liberals realize they cannot win an election, so they engineer a CPC victory, which at best annoys their base and at worst boosts the CPCs chances, so that the next time an election trigger appears, the math hasn't changed. Until Dion goes, this will remain the pattern. With this in mind, I believe the Liberals will remain an impotent political force until they loose another election and make some actual changes to the way their party operates, with a new leader at the helm.

My guess is resurgent Liberals in 2011.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following clips say it much better than I:


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H/t: Darryl Wolk Blog
Riley W





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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That first YouTube video sums it all up nicely.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see/hear Mercer kick sand in someone else's face for a change.

-Mac
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny stuff. You know it's bad when a Liberal stooge like Mercer starts hacking the LPC.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleatmop wrote:
Funny stuff. You know it's bad when a Liberal stooge like Mercer starts hacking the LPC.


But it sure looks good on him, lol.
gc





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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mercer makes fun of everyone...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gc wrote:
Mercer makes fun of everyone...

Yes but he's much nastier to Conservatives than Liberals and he all but ignores the NDP. Feel free to draw your own conclusions.

-Mac
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really enjoyed that. Good work Rick Mercer!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say the Future of the Liberal Party is looking pretty good right now, what with us trying to bribe a dead guy and all.

Election within a week!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsocko wrote:
I'd say the Future of the Liberal Party is looking pretty good right now, what with us trying to bribe a dead guy and all.

Election within a week!!!


They could very well be back in government before the year is out.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think its true? :shock: :( :?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a misunderstanding. I heard audio of Mrs. Cadman being interviewed and she seemed to not fully grasp the situation.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The future of the Liberal party is grim.

They have few resources due to debt and ineffective fund raising, no coherent platform or philosophy and no leadership (not just Mr Dion, look at the entire front bench...)

In the mean time, the NDP and Greens eat away at the "Left" flank, and their credibility sinks among the undecided electorate with every back down in parliament. Only the Liberal sheeple who would vote Liberal regardless will remain.

How long this can continue is unclear. If the government continues the erosion of Liberal support and resources will result in a resounding electoral defeat, with much of the Left wing vote splitting between the NDP and Greens. I suspect the Liberal Party will disintegrate after that with bitter infighting among various factions, and a small centrist rump party will remain in Ontario.

This is not good news for the CPC, since a weak opposition will lead to complacency and hubris. We may already be seeing this when looking at the budgets, these are not pieces of Conservative legislation but attempts to buy off the 60% of the electorate which votes for left wing parties, and economically unsustainable to boot. We will live in interesting times
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thucydides wrote:
We will live in interesting times

A potent curse, indeed...

The Liberals are very dangerous now as they have nothing to lose which makes them desperate and careless.

-Mac
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