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Do you think BC Carbon Tax is a Good Idea?
Yes (and I live in BC)
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
Yes (and I don't live in BC)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
No (and I live in BC)
45%
 45%  [ 5 ]
No (and I don't live in BC)
45%
 45%  [ 5 ]
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palomino_pony





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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Carbon Tax coming to BC? Reply with quote

It looks like a slam dunk.

Link

A few days later we find out why the tax is needed, $14 BILLION in new transit spending.

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How does this affect those not in BC? The feds are being asked to contribute $3.1 billion. That is tax dollars collected from coast to coast.Link

Add this to the $3.9 billion for the Gatway Project, that is $17.9 billion (give or take a dollar) for roads, bridges, rail, and busses.

All this done in the name of climate change.


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Mac





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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone want to tell me how Gordo Campbell is fiscally conservative again?

-Mac
palomino_pony





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
Anyone want to tell me how Gordo Campbell is fiscally conservative again?

-Mac


This is the part that frustrates me. I held my nose when I voted for him in the past 2 elections because given the politics of the time, a vote for anybody else would ensure the NDP gets in. Things were tolerable until Campbell went inton "legacy" mode. The 2010 Olympics, billions on transit spending.

Don't get me wrong, I am big fan of Skytrain. I take it on the days that I don't ride my bike to work. My family specifically bought a house near a station so we could get rid of one of the cars, but this investment is way to much, way to fast.

I really don't know who to vote for next time.
Mac





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps it's finally time for a provincial Conservative Party to stand up and be counted? Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a decent alternative?

-Mac
goward4u





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been whining about Gordon Campbell on other threads but I'm glad to see he's been given a thread of shame of his own.

I never thought I'd see anyone waste more money on vanity projects than Glen Clarke but GC has him beat with the hydrogen highway, green taxes on EVERYTHING, convention center, 2010 Olympics and now!! tah-dah!!!!! the mother of all transit projects.

Hey, it's only money....ours....unfortunately.

Carol James doesn't look so bad...really...
palomino_pony





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
Perhaps it's finally time for a provincial Conservative Party to stand up and be counted? Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a decent alternative?

-Mac


Yes it is. If there is ever was an issue that could give them exposure, this is it. I just went over to their website and last news release was from December 12, 2007 and their home page has nothing about Campbell's legacy project.

Who makes up the BC Conservatives these days? I have respect for Wilf Hanni, but other than him I don't know anybody else.
kwlafayette





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your best bet is probably to leave, if you want the brutally honest short version. Do as so many Sask youth have done, and go to Alberta. One day, it is possible that you might be able to return, along with a huge number of other ex-BCers, and effect change. But from where I sit, BC is firmly in the grips of old hippie socialists, and I don't see anything changing any time soon.
Mac





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually considering doing exactly that, kwlafayette... but I'm looking at going from the frying pan to the fire... from Vancouver to Ottawa... :shock:

-Mac
kwlafayette





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ontario, with Caledonia, and stuff like that, just may be on the cusp of change. Don't know about a big government town like Ottawa. I don't know if government towns ever change.
FF_Canuck





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm actually considering doing exactly that, kwlafayette... but I'm looking at going from the frying pan to the fire... from Vancouver to Ottawa...


Gonna trade your grey shirt in for a white one, Mac? :P
Mac





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FF_Canuck wrote:
Gonna trade your grey shirt in for a white one, Mac? :P

It would be a promotion but not that one... How does Sgt. Mac sound?

-Mac
FF_Canuck





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like congratulations! I'd ask what unit you'd be working in, but I probably don't have the clearance :lol:
Mac





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FF_Canuck wrote:
Sounds like congratulations! I'd ask what unit you'd be working in, but I probably don't have the clearance :lol:

I've thrown in an application. It's far from a done deal. I'm currently in "covert ops" which is a polite way of saying you're right. If I succeed, I'll be moving into an admin position. Ugh.

-Mac
Louise M.





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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwlafayette wrote:
Don't know about a big government town like Ottawa. I don't know if government towns ever change.

Ottawa's not as big a government town as it used to be. Over the last 30 years the feds have decentralized quite a bit of it operations to other regions. We now have a thriving high tech sector.Our main area of business is still predominantly "white collar". Ottawa is considered small in comparison to Vancouver, TO and Montreal. That's why I love it.
Mac





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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case anyone gets the notion this is about burning ambition on my part, here's the rest of the story. My wife's mom (75 yr old widow with health problems) is in Ottawa. My wife tried to get a transfer for the past two years but she doesn't speak French so RCMP HR wouldn't place her. If she'd been transferred, there was a lateral transfer available for me.

I'm qualified for promotion so I threw my name in for the first promotion advertised in my specialty which is an admin spot. Admin isn't a popular post so there'll be limited interest which means my chances should be good. That being said, our promotional system is so screwed up thanks to changes Zack forced through, it will be months before I know whether I've succeeded or not.

Given the anticipated fallout from the Brown Taskforce, this might not be a bad time to go to Ottawa as I might help guide my unit's future direction in positive ways. At least, that's how I'm selling it to myself. I've never worked in administration and I have very little desire to do so but, if selected, I will make the best of my situation (as always)...

-Mac
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