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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Why is poligamy illegal? Reply with quote

Just curious...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number one, women simply could not be equal to men under a polygamous system. Two, polygamy is bad for society in other ways as well. For example, when 1 guy has 10 wives, and nine other guys have no wives, that is 9 angry young men you have that are willing recruits for whatever violent purpose you can dream up.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because legally marriage is between 2 adults.
but honestly, if it ever gets to the supreme court. :roll:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression it was illegal for 2 major reasons.. 1. its generally seen as a morally incorrect thing to participate thing (although that holds no water with me) and 2. possibly something to do with tax breaks given to families and polygamy would abuse the system? Unsure... although if it did become legal it should be allowed for both men and women to marry as many times as they like, not just men as it was or is in Mormon institutions.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to clarify that Mormons no longer practice polygamy. It is break off groups off of the main stream church; The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

The main stream church quit the practice of polygamy back in the 1890's.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because nobody has launched a charter challenge...yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because no one deserves that much pain.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Number one, women simply could not be equal to men under a polygamous system.


That's not necessarily the case anymore thanks to gay marriage.

For example, how does having 3 men married to each other infringe on the rights of women?

For that matter, how does having 3 women married to each other create a situation where the women are less equal to men?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2. possibly something to do with tax breaks given to families and polygamy would abuse the system?


That might be a problem, though currently in the Bountiful area where there are illegal polygamous families they are taking advantage of the welfare system.

The husband and legal wife operate normally, while the other non-legally recognized wives collect welfare. If they were legally married, the other spouses incomes would be taken into consideration before social benefits were given.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Blue wrote:
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Number one, women simply could not be equal to men under a polygamous system.


That's not necessarily the case anymore thanks to gay marriage.

For example, how does having 3 men married to each other infringe on the rights of women?

For that matter, how does having 3 women married to each other create a situation where the women are less equal to men?
The definition of polygamy is one man married to multiple women. Polyandry is the reverse. There is no word for men being married to multiple other men, women being married to multiple other women, or humans being married to animals.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwlafayette wrote:
There is no word for men being married to multiple other men, women being married to multiple other women, or humans being married to animals.


Give it time.

Necessity is the mother of invention.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polyandry definition is generally:
The practice or condition of having more than one husband at one time

Polygyny definition is generally:
The state or practice of having more than one wife or female mate at one time

Polygamy:
The condition or practice of having more than one spouse at one time. Also called plural marriage.
The practice of having several wives or husbands at the same time
Marriage in which a spouse of either sex may have more than one mate at the same time (I think this is where you would place same sex marriages)
And my favorite:
Not etymologically restricted to marriage of one man and multiple women (technically polygyny), but often used as if it were.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a religious standpoint, if you get married more than once, even with a divorce, isn't that polygamy? I mean, a religious marriage is about the joining of souls and till death do us part, right? So, if you go and get married again after a divorce (not a widowing), then aren't you technically a polygamist under god's rules?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleatmop wrote:
From a religious standpoint, if you get married more than once, even with a divorce, isn't that polygamy? I mean, a religious marriage is about the joining of souls and till death do us part, right? So, if you go and get married again after a divorce (not a widowing), then aren't you technically a polygamist under god's rules?


Well of course you can get around this can't you? When you are joined by the church there is the assumption of commitment to the marriage. If a partner can prove lack of commitment then an annulment can be secured. There are a few other reasons for an annulment, but to be honest its not my area. So far I haven't felt the need to Nullify my hubby.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazymamma wrote:
Bleatmop wrote:
From a religious standpoint, if you get married more than once, even with a divorce, isn't that polygamy? I mean, a religious marriage is about the joining of souls and till death do us part, right? So, if you go and get married again after a divorce (not a widowing), then aren't you technically a polygamist under god's rules?


Well of course you can get around this can't you? When you are joined by the church there is the assumption of commitment to the marriage. If a partner can prove lack of commitment then an annulment can be secured. There are a few other reasons for an annulment, but to be honest its not my area. So far I haven't felt the need to Nullify my hubby.


Does the church provide annulments? More importantly, does god?
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