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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: I like Obama Reply with quote

Personally speaking of course. If I was a Democrat I would support him. If a Democrat has to win in 2008 I hope it is him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've seen of him, it'd be an easy choice... especially if Billary was the other option.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know his policies but from what I've heard he's a good speaker.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like him too. I also like Bill Richardson, but since he has almost no chance of winning at this point, I support Obama. I'm not a fan of Hilary.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He seems to lack some experince in international relations.
I like that he said he would meet that north korean demi-god wanna be one on one.
I dont like that he said he would be willing to invade Pakistan to help the war on terror.

Overall I like him, at least he freely admited to his past mistakes (pot and coke use, booze abuse being legal doesnt really count).
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you believe in people predicting the future Obama is predicted to win the Presidentcy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama is a type of person who has been given everything in life. He is still a junior senator for god sake, with very little electoral politics behind him, and he is going for the top job already. To be honest, his policies are not much different than Hillaryís policies.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, he's inexperienced.

But that's what they also claimed about Bush before he was in power.

Remember how the left complained that under Bush foreign policy was going to be an after-thought and that American would become isolationist and inward-looking? I guess that prediction was totally blown out the water.

For a closer example, what experience did Harper have when he ran for PM?

Sometimes less experience can be a good thing. Bush framed his inexperience as not being party of the "old boys club" and not being a "professional lifetime politician".
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you canít compare the position of the Canadian PM to the American President. There is much more responsibility to being American President, and you have to know your stuff when it comes to how leading and running a government and armed forces works. Plus every decision you make as President affects the whole world.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
He is still a junior senator for god sake, with very little electoral politics behind him, and he is going for the top job already.

He has been an elected official for longer than Harper was when he became the PM.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
There is much more responsibility to being American President, and you have to know your stuff when it comes to how leading and running a government and armed forces works.

You have to "know your stuff" to be the Canadian PM too, no? Do you think Harper "knows his stuff"?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, and U.S. Senator since 2004. I donít really know if being a state senator is great experience. Maybe if he were governor.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, and U.S. Senator since 2004. I donít really know if being a state senator is great experience. Maybe if he were governor.

Probably no worse than being a backbencher MP.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thatís true, but how many backbencher MPís have gone straight from the back benches to the PMO?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I work and live in the USA 4 of 7 days each week, I cannot believe you people actually like this man.

I have gone and seen him speak. Yes he is a good orator but the man is totally devoid of any substantive vision for the USA. His speeches reek of socialism.

I have also seen Hillary speek and she is dreadful and ties with Obama for socialist views.

On the republican side, I have seen Mitt, Thompson and Huckabee speek. Personally I think Fred Thompson is the right man for the office of the President and is the only person that can bring the warring partisan political sides together to address the issues facing the USA and the world.

The few days I am in Canada, the more I Canadians saying they like Hillary and Obama and perfer either to win. But that is expected since Canada and Canadians are so socialist and basically one footstep from being fully communist.
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