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is faith a choice
yes
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no
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FascistLibertarian





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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: is faith a choice? Reply with quote

I dont think it is. I dont choose not to believe. I think its probably mostly how you were raised but a genetic part is not something I would rule out.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faith is not a choice.
It is a gift.

-Ruth
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it is not a choice. The human condition is to believe, in something. People who do not choose to believe in God put their faith in other things.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course it is.


see if I could choose to believe I think I would. It would be nice to know that you exist after you die, that there was something bigger than our existence. But I cant just make myself believe in religion.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FascistLibertarian wrote:
But I cant just make myself believe in religion.


No you can't.
But God can.
And, just in case you want to say "well why doesn't He then?" you can't tell the future. You don't know if one day you will believe.

-Ruth
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwlafayette wrote:
No, it is not a choice. The human condition is to believe, in something. People who do not choose to believe in God put their faith in other things.

ditto
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poll is pretty divided.

I don't think a theist belief is a choice.

I think the specific religion is eventually a choice, but I think we are all born with a belief and motivation of something more, something greater than us, a God.

Most atheists start out believers, they are born into the belief.

Usually a crisis comes along, they think God ignored them and go atheist...

I think we are all born theists.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westmanguy wrote:
Most atheists start out believers, they are born into the belief.

Usually a crisis comes along, they think God ignored them and go atheist...

I think we are all born theists.


The atheists who started out as believers likely did so because of how they were raised. I was raised in a religious family, and I was taught that God does exist, so that is what I believed (I was also told that Santa Claus existed, so I believed that too). As I grew older, I began to question religion from a scientific point of view and realized that much of what I had been taught was false. This had nothing to do with a crisis, or feeling like I was ignored by God. It has to do with critical thinking.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FascistLibertarian wrote:
see if I could choose to believe I think I would


Contrary to popular opinion which views religion as a crutch. I think it takes humility and courage to be religious. It is not easy to cast aside the rational in favor of faith. I'm caught between it myself. I love Christianity but faith is something I struggle with. I do believe in powers greater than ours but that is something I will not get into.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said Craig, I imagine a lot of us can identify with that.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faith a choice? No... faith is not; I agree with kw here...

religion... that is a choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've known many people who are faithless - for some it's not just no faith in God - it's no faith in anything - also - people who have no faith are generally more pessimistic about life...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a tough one. I read The God Part of the Brain, and the author gives a pretty case for our susceptibility to believe in God to be part of our evolution.
As our ancestors dealt with mortality and death, while trying to explain things like lightning, the humans who were able to cope best without going insane, were the ones who believed in a higher power to explain the unexplainable.

But on the other hand, if a boy is orphaned in deepest darkest Africa and raised by chimps with no human contact, would that boy have faith? He as an individual would have no concept of a biblical God, though chimps have been known to do rain dances during droughts, and they look up into the sky when doing it.

My lack of faith isn't a choice though. I came by it like someone else said "by critical thinking."

I still haven't answered the question because of the conflicts stated above.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
FascistLibertarian wrote:
see if I could choose to believe I think I would


Contrary to popular opinion which views religion as a crutch. I think it takes humility and courage to be religious. It is not easy to cast aside the rational in favor of faith. I'm caught between it myself. I love Christianity but faith is something I struggle with. I do believe in powers greater than ours but that is something I will not get into.


Even iconic figures like Mother Teresa had struggles in the faith department - if someone as devoted as Mother Teresa can have such experiences - then how much more so for us ordinary laity:

http://www.boston.com/news/nat.....h_and_god/
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