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 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: Free Dominion Under Attack! |
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| Quote: | A website featuring comments by, for and about "principled conservatism" is being investigated by the Canadian government, and could be fined or ordered shut down for some postings about Islam and homosexuality.
Connie Wilkins, who with Mark Fournier runs Canada's Free Dominion site and posts articles, comments and blogs on a wide range of issues, said she just was notified by the nation's Human Rights Commission about the investigation.
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Man, y'all have it that bad!  Is the USA the last place on earth that has free speech? I can only offer my support for the right to speak freely and I hope that the great people of Canada will not let this happen. |
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Stephen
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Just a moderator's note: Please do not repost material from FreeDominion that is the subject of the CHRC complaint. Doing so exposes us, and this warning serves as clear notice that we will pursue civil action against anyone that in turn exposes us to CHRC action related to this complaint against FreeDominion.
Translation: here's a warning that says if you get us in trouble with the CHRC for material we've warned you not to post, we will do what we can to recover our damages (from you) because this warning also indicates that as moderators and site owners, that we don't want to have anything to do with the material that lands a person (rightly or wrongly -- which is another debate) with a human rights complaint.
We think that a country is freer with true free speech and the Canadian laws are not ideal. Regardless, imperfect as they are, we must comply with them and we'd ask that you do the same.
Also, please do not post the name of the complainant or any information about her as there are specific laws against harassment that we must be aware of as well.
Thanks! |
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Craig
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Stephen wrote: | | We think that a country is freer with true free speech and the Canadian laws are not ideal. Regardless, imperfect as they are, we must comply with them and we'd ask that you do the same. |
Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between Canadian laws and the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. Is it their purpose to judge Canadian laws? I guess I don't understand what the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal is or how they relate to Canadian law. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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They're "quasi-judicial" whatever that means...
Their decisions have legal bearing. however, because they're a quasi-judicial tribunal, the weight of their decisions on precedent isn't as influential as a true court precedent.
So for example, if two lawyers face off in court and one lawyer presents a tribunal decision to back up his argument and the other lawyer presents a court decision, the ruling judge would give more consideration to the court decision. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between Canadian laws and the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. |
I guess to better answer your question: they're a part of the Canadian legal system.
Under the common-law system laws can come in two forms:
1) Codified laws passed by legislatures
2) common-law based on the prior decisions (precedence) by courts and quasi-judicial bodies (like the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal) |
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FF_Canuck
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| From what I've observed, private citizens and companies with sufficient resources can fight them off pretty effectively, but they can really screw with the little guy and governmental organizations. There is no consitutional basis for the extreme power they wield, and no real overwatch of how they use it. Kangaroo Courts, by another name. |
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Craig
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, I'm no fan of Free Dominion and the people who run it but I sure hope they win this one. |
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Craig
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Raising a stink gets results once again -- congratulations on all the bloggers who took part in the campaign to Free Free Dominion.
And shame on the rest of you "conservative" bloggers for being too cowardly and careerist to take part. You know who you are and you should be ashamed.
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http://shaidle.blogmatrix.com/.....8-03-0004/ |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Stephen wrote: | We think that a country is freer with true free speech and the Canadian laws are not ideal. Regardless, imperfect as they are, we must comply with them and we'd ask that you do the same.
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All that takes for evil to happen is people to do nothing. Congrats on showing whose side you are on.
No you don't have to comply when the laws are bad for democracy. And this wasn't about "the law" it was a human rights comission.
If your ears are ringing they are talking about you on FD.
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Hasdrubal
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Oh...oh...does this mean the "War of the Boards"  |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Hasdrubal wrote: | | Oh...oh...does this mean the "War of the Boards" |
Hardly there were even some lefties speaking up for FD,
I put myself at risk by putting them on my blog because it was the right thing to do.
Some countries declared war on Hitler in 1939 others much later and the Swedes didn't care to at all.
Did they do the right thing? |
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Hasdrubal
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| Hitler was a madman who wrote everything he had planned in Mein Kampf, however none of those countries really took it seriously despite the fact that other coutries were already taken over such as Czecholvakia(sp). However we know that Sweden had sided with Germany indirectly as they traded with them & Switzerland became his personnel bank. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Hasdrubal wrote: | | Hitler was a madman who wrote everything he had planned in Mein Kampf, however none of those countries really took it seriously despite the fact that other coutries were already taken over such as Czecholvakia(sp). However we know that Sweden had sided with Germany indirectly as they traded with them & Switzerland became his personnel bank. |
They also transported troops, sold iron ore....
And a few lines above if says posters could face legal action here,
However did they do the right thing? |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Craig wrote: | | Well, I'm no fan of Free Dominion and the people who run it but I sure hope they win this one. |
Why? You don't like conservatives? |
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