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Riley W





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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Why the Republicans have To Nominate Giuliani Reply with quote

The man may not be the best Conservative we all want, but he is the only one who has the best shot of retaining the oval office for the Republicans.

Rudi is a centrist, not a Conservative, but he is the only one who could pulls this off.


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Look at this Gallup Poll video.

Republicans got to realize its better to have power with a centrist then to run a conservative and not have power.

This is why I support Giuliani because I believe the Republicans must stay in office.

Hillary will probably get the Democrat nomination, because I don't see mass America voting for Obama. Obama will probably become the running mate.

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kwlafayette





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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Americans will discover, like we are now, that if your only platform plank is "not Democrat", people are not going to be anxious to vote for you. Pick the guy with the best ideas, then run a campaign on those ideas. Don't pick the guy with no ideas you think might have the best chance of winning. You can see how well that worked for the Liberal party.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any one from GOP but a Democrat is fine by me... (except Ron Paul)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is nowhere near a Conservative! Ronald Reagan proved that running as a true Conservative will cause the press to hate you, the polls will show you losing every time and on every issue, but at the end of the day you will win every time with relentless principle. Guliani does not have the value voters at all which effectively kills his chances. Regardless of polls, when the votes are counted all of his liberal supporters will be surprised how badly he fares.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that Fred Thompson puts his name in the race. He is what U.S. conservatives need. He knows his stuff, and is not afraid to respond to the left, and show their hypocrisies. Lets face if, the conservative movement is in serious damage, and needs to be fixed.

Rudy is not the guy; he is just another liberal hiding in the GOP banner. He is a social liberal, and not much of an economic conservative. He did leave NYC in economic ruins, before 9/11 even happened! The only conservative platform he has is law and order and national defence.

Plus, Thompson is running in third in most polls, and has yet to even throw his name into the race. I think he is the smart choice for the Republicans.


He is the best choice to restore the conservative agenda in Washington, D.C.
gc





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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:

Rudy is not the guy; he is just another liberal hiding in the GOP banner. He is a social liberal, and not much of an economic conservative. He did leave NYC in economic ruins, before 9/11 even happened! The only conservative platform he has is law and order and national defence


I'm not sure exactly how Rudy is on economic policies...but in terms of law & order, he really cleaned up New York quite nicely. And being socially liberal is a good thing, in my opinion.

Right now, the Republicans are in trouble, and Rudy might be the only one who can win. If he could win New York, that would be good for the Republicans. Being a moderate, he'll probably do well in the swing states too. Who would you rather have for President, Giuliani or Clinton?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gc wrote:
Who would you rather have for President, Giuliani or Clinton?



This is just the question the blathering GOP idiots will try and sell this twat Guliani with. Honestly if it came down to those two I would not bother voting for either. There is no point in voting for the lesser of two evils because you still vote in evil. Nothing short of a tried and true socially, fiscally, and Constitutionally sound Conservative will have a chance in '08.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

judging by your logic, campaigns cease to be about ideas and solutions, and are merely popularity contests.

I hate the thought of President Hillary, but I'd rather lose an election without compromising values. Reagan lost in 76, but his legacy and ideas were proven right later on.

Newt in 2008!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rudy's a fantastic executive, and strong on issues of crime, defense, trade, and size of government. I don't care for his stance on gun control at all, and I think he's made some mistakes in communicating his stances on social issues. I can definately see him taking the Primary if he sticks to stating his principles clearly, distasteful as they may be to some.

I don't think McCain has much of a chance. Ron Paul (if he continues to gain momentum) and Fred! (if he enters) may have a chance of knocking him off.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

truth4freedom wrote:
gc wrote:
Who would you rather have for President, Giuliani or Clinton?


Nothing short of a tried and true socially, fiscally, and Constitutionally sound Conservative will have a chance in '08.


Ron Paul!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rudy's the man for it! He's not far-off conservative or socialist liberal...he's right in the middle. He can attract both right-wingers and the lefties. Remember though, it's a whole different place down there. Americans see Rudy as a centerist. Up here, he would probably be considered quite conservative.

Rudy in '08!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JasonSkald wrote:
truth4freedom wrote:
gc wrote:
Who would you rather have for President, Giuliani or Clinton?


Nothing short of a tried and true socially, fiscally, and Constitutionally sound Conservative will have a chance in '08.


Ron Paul!


He is gaining. A local group of Ron Paul supporters I am involved with ended up on Tulsa's news recently. Flyer distribution, shirts, sings, you name it we're putting Dr. Paul out there and he will win!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cerl7011 wrote:
Rudy's the man for it! He's not far-off conservative or socialist liberal...he's right in the middle. He can attract both right-wingers and the lefties. Remember though, it's a whole different place down there. Americans see Rudy as a centerist. Up here, he would probably be considered quite conservative.

Rudy in '08!

erl


He is a Liberal, through and through. What is the since of calling yourself or "conservative" or "centrist" when you are a very social liberal, and not a true economic conservative. Just about any political stripe can jump on the law and order bandwagon.
Riley W





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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Westmanguy;

That is the reason I support Rudy... he'll draw a lot of the much needed swing vote.

and to be honest, he's probably just what the Americans need at a time like now, someone who can bring sides together and lower the tone of rhetoric.
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