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Riley W





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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah the province could decide if their districts are by population or regional.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westmanguy wrote:

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I would amend the constitution and give each province 10 seats.

Newfoundland & Labrador - 10 seats
Nova Scotia - 10 seats
New Brunswick - 10 seats
Prince Edward Island - 10 seats
Quebec - 10 seats
Ontario - 10 seats
Manitoba - 10 seats
Saskatchewan - 10 seats
Alberta - 10 seats
British Columbia - 10 seats

Nunavut - 1 seat
Northwest Territories - 1 seat
Yukon - 1 seat


What will you give Quebec to get this?
Did you vote for or against Charlottetown? This is exactly what th e senate reform in Charlotterown looked like and it's a pipe dream.

There will never be another constitutional conference.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsocko wrote:
westmanguy wrote:

Quote:
I would amend the constitution and give each province 10 seats.

Newfoundland & Labrador - 10 seats
Nova Scotia - 10 seats
New Brunswick - 10 seats
Prince Edward Island - 10 seats
Quebec - 10 seats
Ontario - 10 seats
Manitoba - 10 seats
Saskatchewan - 10 seats
Alberta - 10 seats
British Columbia - 10 seats

Nunavut - 1 seat
Northwest Territories - 1 seat
Yukon - 1 seat


What will you give Quebec to get this?
Did you vote for or against Charlottetown? This is exactly what th e senate reform in Charlotterown looked like and it's a pipe dream.

There will never be another constitutional conference.


Meh, Quebec hasn't ratified our current constitution, why worry about them signing onto any changes we make to it?
Riley W





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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I doubt any Prime Minister will ever have another constitutional amendment conference.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quebec hasn't ratified our current constitution, why worry about them signing onto any changes we make to it?


That was a slam dunk my friend.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some interesting ideas. I like the idea that every province has an equal number of senators. 10 per province seems ok but one for each territory seems proportional too few. One suggestion I would have is that the senators are independent of any party affiliation. It would ensure that they represented their constituents rather than a party, improving the chances their sober second thought was unbiased.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravon wrote:
Some interesting ideas. I like the idea that every province has an equal number of senators. 10 per province seems ok but one for each territory seems proportional too few. One suggestion I would have is that the senators are independent of any party affiliation. It would ensure that they represented their constituents rather than a party, improving the chances their sober second thought was unbiased.


Agreed to no party lines.

Although Territories are not provinces, and unless they are provinces they should only get 1 Senator.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westmanguy wrote:
Ravon wrote:
Some interesting ideas. I like the idea that every province has an equal number of senators. 10 per province seems ok but one for each territory seems proportional too few. One suggestion I would have is that the senators are independent of any party affiliation. It would ensure that they represented their constituents rather than a party, improving the chances their sober second thought was unbiased.


Agreed to no party lines.

Although Territories are not provinces, and unless they are provinces they should only get 1 Senator.


Yea...thats a good idea...like in America...cept without the party crap. It would allow good, upstanding community heros to be elected without becoming partisan and would give the people a larger say in their government...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravon wrote:
Some interesting ideas. I like the idea that every province has an equal number of senators. 10 per province seems ok but one for each territory seems proportional too few. One suggestion I would have is that the senators are independent of any party affiliation. It would ensure that they represented their constituents rather than a party, improving the chances their sober second thought was unbiased.


I agree but how do you do that?
Keep them out of caucus would be a start.
Who picks the senate leader is it the PM? if it is this would also be a good start.
Knave





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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravon wrote:
Some interesting ideas. I like the idea that every province has an equal number of senators. 10 per province seems ok but one for each territory seems proportional too few. One suggestion I would have is that the senators are independent of any party affiliation. It would ensure that they represented their constituents rather than a party, improving the chances their sober second thought was unbiased.


Why not just follow Alberta's example, and only have Provincial political parties run candidates for the Senate... and then have them sit in the Senate with their provincial parties' caucuses?

That would increase the independence of the Senators from the federal parties; for example, a provincial BC Liberal Party member is not one-in-the-same with a Federal Liberal Party member....
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: My idea Reply with quote

Each province and teritory would get 10 senators the Provincial government would appoint 4 to 5 senators, where the provincial government could recall their senators to face committees about voting patterns, consern about absentyism, etc.

And the other 5 to 6 senators would be elected where all senators from 3 to 4 provinces would go to the polls every 6 years.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: My idea Reply with quote

Reform wrote:
Each province and teritory would get 10 senators the Provincial government would appoint 4 to 5 senators, where the provincial government could recall their senators to face committees about voting patterns, consern about absentyism, etc.

And the other 5 to 6 senators would be elected where all senators from 3 to 4 provinces would go to the polls every 6 years.


Territories do NOT deserve equal seats as provinces.

Bare minimum representation for Territories: 1 Senate Seat
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My plan would be a total makeover of the federation. I would increase the number of provinces/territories (what the new provinces/territories would be is for debate, but I would like to see Toronto separate from Ontario and a national capital region for Ottawa and Gatineau). The Senate would be EEE with some type of proportional representation. Each province would have 2 senators and each territory 1 senator. Parliamentary seats would be purely based on population elected by the First-Past-The-Post system. Also the Governor General and Prime Minister would be elected by the population.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elections every 4 years like the federal election, but 2 years after the MP's!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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