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Who do you want the next Conservative leader to be?
Bernard Lord
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Maxime Bernier
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cerl7011





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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFrank85 wrote:
Leader? We don't need to be talking about a new leader. Harper is 49 tomorrow, and is still a young person in politics. I think he will have a nice run as PM and leader of the Conservative Party.


Current polls are showing us either tied with or slightly above the Liberals...I'm not sure he can survive another minority...I'm not sure we can survive another minority...

erl
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cerl7011 wrote:
SFrank85 wrote:
Leader? We don't need to be talking about a new leader. Harper is 49 tomorrow, and is still a young person in politics. I think he will have a nice run as PM and leader of the Conservative Party.


Current polls are showing us either tied with or slightly above the Liberals...I'm not sure he can survive another minority...I'm not sure we can survive another minority...

erl


I think the Conservatives can't survive without Harper at the moment. Polls go up and down, that's just the way it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A future Tory leader, eh?

Well, I suppose we could hope that by the time Stephen retires, Benjamin or Rachel Harper would be ready to go into politics. 8)

But in the meantime, I'd suggest Jim Prentice as a fair replacement (despite the fact that he's managing the impossible ministry of Indian Affairs, his work as chair of Harper's inner cabinet gives him some useful insight).

John Baird also has a certain amount of fighting spirit.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leader? We don't need to be talking about a new leader. Harper is 49 tomorrow, and is still a young person in politics. I think he will have a nice run as PM and leader of the Conservative Party.


I don't think Harper would be the type of PM to overstay his welcome. I believe that he'd stay no longer than two full majority terms; however its anyone's guess when it comes to minorities.

I wouldn't be surprised if during a second minority government Harper would step down and allow another leader to have a chance at getting a majority. He'd make sure the party is well prepared though with enough time to prepare for an election. A Conservative leadership race while we hold government would really boost our awareness in the public eye.

He may decide that its best for the conservative movement for the party to step beyond his shadow and highlight the various colours of conservatism we have and the interesting people who are in it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Current polls are showing us either tied with or slightly above the Liberals...I'm not sure he can survive another minority...I'm not sure we can survive another minority...


I don't think there would be much pressure for him to step down if he wins a second moinority. I mean, two back to back Conservative minority governments isn't bad considering our party history.

I do agree however, that unless he delivers something to the party base, like a decent tax cut, there may be a grassroots backlash.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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John Baird also has a certain amount of fighting spirit.


Unfortunately John's personal lifestyle may be unpalatable with some of the party base...he's a vegetarian.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Blue wrote:
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John Baird also has a certain amount of fighting spirit.


Unfortunately John's personal lifestyle may be unpalatable with some of the party base...he's a vegetarian.


As long as he doesn't want me to be one, I'm fine with that :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Micheal Chong is the one person in the party who has proven that he puts principles ahead of ambition and politics. This is one of the musts for being a great leader.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its an excellent question, and one that I am having a hard time answering.

As much as I would love to say Ralph Klein I am not sure if we could sell him outside of Alberta.

Personally I like Mike Harris, but Canada as a nation is way to soft to handle him, he would fix many of the issue that we are currently facing, but Mike's up front approach may be confusing to a voting base that is so use to 13 years of Liberals keeping less then 20% of their platform promises.

I am not the biggest fan of any of the poll choices,
Although its hard for me to find anyone I think could be elected across the nation,

Names like Ted Morton or Pat Binns spring to mind, but again a very hard sell.

I guess for the time being my best answer is that I hope Stephen Harper hangs on for a while.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed my mind to Lord.
He is born in Quebec but runs in NB. He would pick up a couple of seats just for being a maritimer. He would fair well in Quebec as well. Hopefully in another 8-10yrs we wont have the Bloc to worry about. Ontario would be happy he is not really a quebecker.
He is well spoken and a good conservative.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has to be a social conservative.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SaintNobody wrote:
It has to be a social conservative.


Ahh...no...we need a social moderate as the leader of the Tories...a fiscal tory, fine...but a social conservative would scare too many Canadians away from the party...myself included...

erl
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You asked who I wanted to vote in as a leader.

I am not in this to be a social moderate.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look where social moderates have taken Canada over the past 40 years. Activist judges, the Charter, conditional sentences, murderers and abusers serving time in the community. People keep using that term, moderate. I don't think it means what they think it means.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cerl7011 wrote:
SaintNobody wrote:
It has to be a social conservative.


Ahh...no...we need a social moderate as the leader of the Tories...a fiscal tory, fine...but a social conservative would scare too many Canadians away from the party...myself included...

erl


Fully agreed...

Canada needs a strong fiscal conservative; with moderate social views..

fiscal conservatism is something that can unite the right... social conservatism is something that is very scary towards many of us.

I would definitely not vote for a far-socially right candidate.

We need strong fiscal policy, and tollerant and fair social policy.
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