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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: The start of World War III? Reply with quote

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Seized sailors 'fundamental' issue: British PM
Updated Sun. Mar. 25 2007 10:35 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

British officials say they have no idea where Iran is keeping 15 sailors and marines seized at gunpoint, while Prime Minister Tony Blair described the issue as "fundamental."


Iran has claimed the sailors confessed to illegally entering Iranian waters, but Blair dismissed the charge.


"It is simply is not true that they went into Iranian territorial waters," Blair told reporters in Berlin.


He added he hoped the Iran "understood how fundamental an issue this is for the British government."


The British Foreign Office confirmed Sunday that Ambassador Geoffrey Adams met with senior Iranian officials, and that he demanded the group's release.


The group includes eight Royal Navy members and seven Royal Marines.


On Saturday, they were interrogated and "confessed to aggression into the Islamic Republic of Iran's waters," Gen. Ali Reza Afshar told Iran's state news agency IRNA.


The group were detained in the Persian Gulf after boarding a merchant ship they believed was being used to smuggle cars into Iraq.


Britain said the incident took place in Iraqi waters where it has UN permission to routinely board and search merchant vessels for smuggled cargo.


However, Iranian officials are maintaining the British ship illegally entered Arvand Roud, which is the Iranian name for the Shatt al-Arab waterway that separates Iran from Iraq.


The sailors were taking part in routine boarding operations at about 10:30 a.m. Friday and are believed to be unharmed.


"The boarding party had completed a successful inspection of a merchant ship when they and their two boats were surrounded and escorted by Iranian vessels into Iranian territorial waters," the British defence ministry said in a statement.


A British navy commander says he is using all the resources he has to ensure the safe return of the sailors.


"Absolutely everything that could possibly be done, is being done," Cmdr. Nick Lambert told reporters.


"We're only a few hours after the event and we've now got as clear a picture of what happened as we could possibly have. All of my authority on the coalition side, and up to the highest levels in the U.K. government, are involved in assuring as quickly as we can, the safe return of my people to HMS Cornwall."


The U.S. has confirmed it has no troops involved in the situation, but said it is monitoring the situation closely.


In 2004, eight British sailors were detained in the Persian Gulf under similar circumstances. They were released after three days of tough diplomatic talks.


With files from The Associated Press


Something must be done with Iran now, before it is too late.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do hope they can solve this diplomatically without war.
Iran must give back the sailors!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my goodness gracious me yes, Iran must, . . . oh they simply MUST give back those soldiers. Or we shall be EVER so cross at them!
My good heavens how dreadfully rude of the Iranians. We Canadians must express in the strongest terms that really if they do not hand over the soldiers immediately we shan't ever invite them to tea ever again.

Demands have not worked before they won't work now.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FascistLibertarian wrote:
I do hope they can solve this diplomatically without war.
Iran must give back the sailors!


And recognize Israel as a nation, and stop producing nuclear, while stating that Israel should be wiped off the map, because a nuke could very well do it. These people are the same types of people are grandparents fought the war against, nothing but extremely ideological fascists.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FascistLibertarian wrote:
I do hope they can solve this diplomatically without war.
Iran must give back the sailors!


So you think this is about the sailors. Once they are returned everything is fine.

Iran has been thumbing its nose at the international community for years. Diplomacy is a certified failure. It shouldn't even be considered in cases like this. Make glass the main export of Iran.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the British do not use diplomacy then how do you suggest getting the sailors back?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
FascistLibertarian wrote:
I do hope they can solve this diplomatically without war.
Iran must give back the sailors!


So you think this is about the sailors. Once they are returned everything is fine.

Iran has been thumbing its nose at the international community for years. Diplomacy is a certified failure. It shouldn't even be considered in cases like this. Make glass the main export of Iran.


As my friend Michael Coren said, the West should bomb their nuclear power stations. If we were to do that, then we must be prepared for the rest of the Islamic world, plus Russia to threaten us.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Nostradamus's predictions come true we are facing nearly 30 years of war, famine, & disease, Britian will become occupied by the armies of the great Satin. The worlds hope lies with the two brother's living side by side in North America, the North Pole alliance will eventually emcompass Canada, the United States, Russia, & Scandanavia. WWIII Nostradamus style is a scary thought indeed.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As my friend Michael Coren said
Geezuz! You've got a friend who's a journalist? Man, buy a dog. They're cleaner and more trustworthy.

Seriously, I think that in the west (with the partial exeption of the U.S.A.) our people and our leaders have become so feminized that we simply cannot understand the motivations of other governments (often 3rd world governments) whose leaders are NOT so feminized in their thinking.

Brit. (to Iranian) Sir, You must hand back our sailors that you are holding captive.
Iranian (smirking :twisted: ) The sailors are our (snicker) "guests" and we will house them at an undisclosed location.
Brit But sir that is no way to treat guests. Now please! Send them back. Their families miss them.
Iranian (befuddled) Uh. . . When I said "guests" I thought you realized . . .
North Korean(whispering to Iranian) I TOLD you. You can't use that ironic, facecitious, doublespeak on them. They just don't get it.
Iranian (to Brit) SIGH! - Ok here's the deal. They're our hostages. If you take any action against us we'll kill them!
Brit But you don't understand! That's not a good way to make friends!
Iranian We DON"T WANT TO BE YOUR GAWWDAM FRIEND YOU FRIGGIN IDIOT! WE WANT TO DESTROY YOU!
Brit But we must get along so our academics can educate you as to what is wrong with your society.
Iranian Gaaahhh! (storms away with N. Korean at his side).
North Korean (sadly) Told-ja. take my advice man. Don't bother talking to these boneheads. Just let them THINK you're willing to talk. Don't worry once you've got nukes they get a lot easier to deal with. By the way, we're having a sale on this month. Buy 20 kilos of weapons grade and get the second 20 absolutely free!
Iranian (smiling and reaching for his wallet) Sounds good! Wanna go for coffee?
N. Korean(Tea would be nicer.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forward wrote:
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As my friend Michael Coren said
Geezuz! You've got a friend who's a journalist? Man, buy a dog. They're cleaner and more trustworthy.

Seriously, I think that in the west (with the partial exeption of the U.S.A.) our people and our leaders have become so feminized that we simply cannot understand the motivations of other governments (often 3rd world governments) whose leaders are NOT so feminized in their thinking.

Brit. (to Iranian) Sir, You must hand back our sailors that you are holding captive.
Iranian (smirking :twisted: ) The sailors are our (snicker) "guests" and we will house them at an undisclosed location.
Brit But sir that is no way to treat guests. Now please! Send them back. Their families miss them.
Iranian (befuddled) Uh. . . When I said "guests" I thought you realized . . .
North Korean(whispering to Iranian) I TOLD you. You can't use that ironic, facecitious, doublespeak on them. They just don't get it.
Iranian (to Brit) SIGH! - Ok here's the deal. They're our hostages. If you take any action against us we'll kill them!
Brit But you don't understand! That's not a good way to make friends!
Iranian We DON"T WANT TO BE YOUR GAWWDAM FRIEND YOU FRIGGIN IDIOT! WE WANT TO DESTROY YOU!
Brit But we must get along so our academics can educate you as to what is wrong with your society.
Iranian Gaaahhh! (storms away with N. Korean at his side).
North Korean (sadly) Told-ja. take my advice man. Don't bother talking to these boneheads. Just let them THINK you're willing to talk. Don't worry once you've got nukes they get a lot easier to deal with. By the way, we're having a sale on this month. Buy 20 kilos of weapons grade and get the second 20 absolutely free!
Iranian (smiling and reaching for his wallet) Sounds good! Wanna go for coffee?
N. Korean(Tea would be nicer.
[/quote]

Well, Michael Coren is one of the more small-c conservative journalists in this country.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FascistLibertarian wrote:
If the British do not use diplomacy then how do you suggest getting the sailors back?


Okay, they can use diplomacy. But here is how it works...

You have 10 days to release the soldiers or we nuke Tehrain.

End of negotiations.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I 100% feel 15 sailors are worth going to war over.
1 person is worth it.
I just hope it does not come to that......

I really doubt issuing a nuclear ultimatium to Iran would work.
And if they were nuked the sailors would be killed....
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I 100% feel 15 sailors are worth going to war over.


What Iran has done could be considered and act of war.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FascistLibertarian wrote:
I 100% feel 15 sailors are worth going to war over.
1 person is worth it.
I just hope it does not come to that......

I really doubt issuing a nuclear ultimatium to Iran would work.
And if they were nuked the sailors would be killed....


Iran wants nuclear weapons. I think we should give them to them...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
Iran wants nuclear weapons. I think we should give them to them...

The newest version of "be careful what you wish for" I guess. ;)

-Mac
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