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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The really sad part is that Jimmy Carter told this joke before. If the punchline had been better then, we would not be having the problems with Iran that we are having today. Why is it always the Democrat's fault?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a spot of torture maybe?

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/.....-iran.html

So far, we have the captain of the boarded vessel saying Iraqi waters, the US, the UK also saying Iraqi waters. On the other side, we have an illegal detainee and the Iranian government saying Iranian waters. Well, I am convinced.

PS. It mentions that the woman sailor was wearing a headscarf. Forced "conversion" possibly? Perhaps another robustly worded telephone conversation is in order?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's looking more & more like this is the Archduke Ferdinand moment & the trigger to something far more grave.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot imagine what could be more grave than what we have seen already. Perhaps a third robustly worded telephone call? Maybe a move to the even more intimidating strongly worded letter? The UK has already surrendered on this one, they just haven't told themselves yet.
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Just one spark and i all i can say is we will be seeing battle lines being drawn even closer. 9/11 we saw Terrorist groups joining forces with Rogue Nations and now we are seeing socialist join up as well
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on, war over this is not even a possibility anymore. The British have surrendered, period. They are a defeated people. This is something like the third act of war perpetrated by Iran against the UK in 3 years. NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. Get real people.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwlafayette wrote:
Come on, war over this is not even a possibility anymore. The British have surrendered, period. They are a defeated people. This is something like the third act of war perpetrated by Iran against the UK in 3 years. NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. Get real people.


Well, it is about time the U.K. did something about it. It would be a disgrace if they did nothing!
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100 years from now the world will know in a post-WW3 future that Ingorant people and cowardly folks stood here. They will know that a movement of far-left activists undermine the War on Terror and Sarcfice the rights and freedoms of Israeli's,Afgan's,Iraqi'sKurds and Lebanese for their Status Quo.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duck Tory wrote:
100 years from now the world will know in a post-WW3 future that Ingorant people and cowardly folks stood here. They will know that a movement of far-left activists undermine the War on Terror and Sarcfice the rights and freedoms of Israeli's,Afgan's,Iraqi'sKurds and Lebanese for their Status Quo.


Praise be to Allah!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

England is not England anymore. They have been overrun and have lost what two world wars could not take away. If the UK does not get their act in gear soon the "15" will dissapear or at best become another hostage soap opera for years.

Anybody care to guess if Israel ever got the soldiers back from Lebanon after last summers mini war?

I say get the 15 back with a rescue then bomb the country to the stone age...but that's just me.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pocketfisherman wrote:
I say get the 15 back with a rescue then bomb the country to the stone age...but that's just me.


They are still in the stone age. We should bomb them into the glass age.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the onus is now on the EU. It (specifically Germany, France, and Italy) is Iran's biggest trading partner and can exert the most economic influence. If they don't start exerting it in defence of the UK, that's a massive blow against the idea of a united European identity.

Continue escalating your response and don't let them toy with you. Get a lot of countries together to start freezing Iranian foreign assets and kicking out diplomatic staff, then exert massive economic pressures, and if that all doesn't work, bomb their missile silos, nuclear facilities, and air bases back to the stone age.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timothy Garton Ash has a very good article on the EU's economic influence on Iran in today's Globe (oh no, not the canuck Pravda! on blogging tories?!)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate the sound of this but the Royal Navy is a mere shadow of its once great former self. But then again the same can be said for several nations I suppose.

I have this gut feeling the Mad Mullahs of Iran are itching for a showdown.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is exactly what they want. A decisive battle that proves the weakness of the West, that we lack anything resembling resolve. The one good thing that can be said about all these milquetoast prevarications is that it leaves a seed of doubt in the terrorist's minds. Of course, it will always embolden some, and be the catalyst for even greater provocations on their part down the road.
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