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Craig
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: The end of the Blogging Dippers Reply with quote

Robert is beyond redemption. There are some very good socialist bloggers. They deserve a better blogroll...

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I am writing in regard to some highly offensive comments that appear on a blog operated by Robert McClelland. The statements allegedly made by Mr McClelland are repugnant and in no way reflect the views of our Party.

I want to assure you that the New Democratic Party of Canada, its [unclear] and local riding associations are not affiliated with Mr McClelland or his independently operated blog roll, the "Blogging Dippers".

The NDP is undertaking the development of a new blog roll that better reflects the views and needs of New Democrats in the blogosphere.

Anne McGrath
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http://stevejanke.com/archives/217833.php
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder if this is the same Robert McClelland who's always posting on the CTV blog?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: The end of the Blogging Dippers Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
Robert is beyond redemption. There are some very good socialist bloggers. They deserve a better blogroll...


I agree - and there are also people like Janke mentioned(Plawiuk) who don't always make the best representation of their party.

I've seen a lot of talk about the progressive bloggers and far-left lately. Of course, sometimes those guys are way over the top too..

But we see that on all sides...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets start our own blogroll; Fascist Blogging Bastards. McClelland can be the first involuntary member.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's hope for the best for the Blogging Dippers. We are all enriched when every (rational) side is heard in a debate. Hopefully they can sort out this unpleasantness and find some new direction.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why the NDP even got involved here. Everyone knows that the blogging dippers is not run by the party, anymore more than rabble is. Some pretty far out wacky things get said on rabble, but people just do the proper thing and ignore it. The absolute worst punishment that could be meted out to McClelland would be to stop going to his blog, stop mentioning his name, and stop acknowledging his existence. What is happening now is more like a reward, I am sure his hit count increased, and that he feels pretty good about himself right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this comes as no real surprise to me. After his previous "F*ck the Jews" comment, he was bound to say something even more stupid and full of hatred. I wasn't prepared for how vile McClelland's comments would be.

Link for anyone who hasn't read it yet: http://jasoncherniak.blogspot......evolt.html
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really think this will hurt him at all afterall he survived Kinsella's scathing attack. But the entire exercise does serve to illustrate what a nitwit he is. There are some very good Blogging Dippers and McClelland is dragging them down with his borderline psychotic rants.

An interesting sidebar to all of this is the announcement by the NDP to create it's own official or sanctioned blogroll. Wonder where that leaves the Dippers? And I wonder if that could happen here?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Len wrote:
I wonder if that could happen here?


Possible, but not likely. Craig and I don't embarrass the party.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CC Scott wrote:
Well this comes as no real surprise to me. After his previous "F*ck the Jews" comment, he was bound to say something even more stupid and full of hatred. I wasn't prepared for how vile McClelland's comments would be.

Link for anyone who hasn't read it yet: http://jasoncherniak.blogspot......evolt.html


Seriously, do you think linking to his blog, and providing him with an even bigger audience than he is used to, will curtail this behavior in the future? Or do you, like me, feel that it will in fact make it more likely that this behavior is repeated?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwlafayette wrote:
CC Scott wrote:
Well this comes as no real surprise to me. After his previous "F*ck the Jews" comment, he was bound to say something even more stupid and full of hatred. I wasn't prepared for how vile McClelland's comments would be.

Link for anyone who hasn't read it yet: http://jasoncherniak.blogspot......evolt.html


Seriously, do you think linking to his blog, and providing him with an even bigger audience than he is used to, will curtail this behavior in the future? Or do you, like me, feel that it will in fact make it more likely that this behavior is repeated?


Shock blogs tend to thrive off of negative attention.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hereby propose that Robert McClelland shall henceforth be known as "that crazy racist dipper", and that his name is never again mentioned on this forum, and no link to his blog, nor mention of it, shall ever be posted here again. All this should be voluntary of course.

What needs to happen is that all attention needs to be averted from him. That is the only thing that will make that crazy racist dipper even a little sorry.

PS. In the end, isn't the best revenge always living well?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure is interesting to see how bloggers of all stripes are going for the jugular on this one... somewhat refreshing.

Nice to see it crossing party-lines lol.

I think that most blogging tories are pretty respectful...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To clarify my earlier comment about Robert's borderline psychotic rants and him dragging the Dippers down - do I think he is an anti-semite? No I don't. Yeah I've read the crap he posts on his blog but I honestly do not believe he is anti-semtic. What he is though is a shock-jock. He likes to be noticed via being controversial. Kind of pathetic in a way.

As for Cherniak I think he's trying to come out of this looking like the Caped Crusader or something. This was politically motivated on his part.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, caped crusader...
funny enough on his latest post about a leak in the liberal party he says

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Clearly somebody needs to do something soon.


To which I replied:

Quick, grab your cape and find a telephone booth!

:lol:
different heroes, i know, but still.

Cherniak can be over-the-top sometimes, but I have a certain level of respect for him; he commands a good audience, has a decent amount of respect for other blogers for the most part, doesn't go too far out of line very often, and you have to have a bit of respect for someone who so unquestioningly supports stephane dion after all he's done to lose that support.

The only two bloggers I don't really have a lot of respect for are Canadian Cynic and his minions of... well, we all know what those people are..

and Eugene Plawiuk - that guy just bothers me.

Otherwise, I think most bloggers do a pretty good job of keeping within the lines of civil discussion
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