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Will the Green Party win seats in the next election?
Yes
42%
 42%  [ 9 ]
No
57%
 57%  [ 12 ]
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Craig
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: Has the Green Party arrived? Reply with quote

Some polls show them tied with the NDP nationally. Will the Green party suplant the NDP and turn the NDP into a fringe party? Will the Greens win seats in the next election?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just seems to me like they have been air lifted in to Canada from movements in other countries.

I know that the Liberals and Tories were already existing in Britain before they became Canadian institutions but they seem very Canadian to me while the Greens seem like outsiders.

I guess I respect parties that got their start in Canada more than Parties like the Greens that got there start in Germany or where ever.
cbasu





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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Has the Green Party arrived? Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
Will the Green party suplant the NDP and turn the NDP into a fringe party? Will the Greens win seats in the next election?
No. Yes - May may win, there may be 1 or 2 others in BC.

Greens federally are like the ADQ in Quebec: a comfy parking spot while people are examining other options. On voting day, they will not be able to get their vote out, and the undecideds almost always return to their natural homes (PQ in Quebec, Liberal/NDP federally).

Therefore, federal Liberal support (and Quebec PQ strength) are almost always underestimated in polls taken until the last week or two before voting day.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could see them concievably getting 10% of the vote and no seats. The magic of FPTP, at least they'll undercut the base of the NDP and LPC, further fracturing the left.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Greens move to Centre? Reply with quote

I think Green support will continue to grow... until people actually realize this is not just an environmental party. They support far left ideas such as legalizing marijuana, and animal rights are a major issue for them. The Greens will have to be more of a centrist party on non-environmental issues if they hope to succeed in Canada in any real way.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Has the Green Party arrived? Reply with quote

I think Elizabeth May should make up her mind of where she's running first before I think that she'll win a seat in the next election. She originally wanted to run in one of the two cape-breton ridings but hasn't ruled out running in London North Centre or in Ottawa West- Nepean. Out of the above I'd say her best chance would be in London North Centre due to the high student population and her recent success in the byelection.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

100% yes!...if May runs in B.C., she'll take her seat...i think her best chance would be in...i think its Sea something Gulf Coast or Islands...i dunno...but thats where the greens have been getting the highest support...the environment is a high priority and Jack's New Socialists are looking a bit tired...

erl

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SFrank85





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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Greens are to ever win a seat, it is the next election. However, I think the Greens are where they are at because of the whole media craze on the environment.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wake me when they actually elect someone. I don't know why people even talk about the Green party, they are just another lefty party. (JALP)

Even if they did elect somebody, I think it is likely that they just become the new official protest party, and the NDP disappears. Would that really be arriving?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think cerl7011 is right about B.C. being the place. I have relatives out there and it is a huge issue with them.

I think May did so well in London North Centre because the Tories did not have a very good candidate and because she was nationally known. The Tories thought Dianne Hasket was a shoe in being an ex mayor and all but her religious views came across as intolerant and turned people off.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I think the Greens are a nice mix of all the parties and will shock all of you.
I hope.

I believe the Conservatives have already shown how fearful the Green presence is to them. Everyone is Irish all of a sudden. Green ties even.

I would say we will be hard to label very soon.

The GREEN party started in 1983 as a party in Canada and Germany simultaneously.

Someone mentioned something about foreign parties etc and I found that funny as both the liberals and conservatives are already stated british imports.

The Bloc , Ndp and Greens are actual Canadian political parties and movements.


In-case I get an argument I will throw my ace now.

Green Peace started all Green parties and it started in Vancouver B.C. in 1971.



After coming in last out of 2 for president of the federal ndp in Quebec city last September only in an attempt to mention the word prohibition and then being denied a candidacy nomination over Xmas because of my aforementioned idea ,after being approved before , I left the ndp and have been campaigning for the Greens ever since.
#106 Green Book
Regulate cannabis like alcohol and tobacco

Short and sweet.
I am for sure getting the word out to the 150,000 people we got the word out to , for the ndp here in BC.

We will effect all parties I hope and yes our task without proportional representation is much harder. But not impossible.
And to come.

As we get $1.74 for every vote same as all others ,it would seem we are here to stay and have the same opportunities to enter into managing this country.

The first deal we make will be pro-rep, watch.

Yeah I know call a mod I'm not conservative in a party sense.

How are you all ? Miss me?

As we now enter into this next season of political excitement I hope all are well.
Better than hockey it will be.
Any messages from the implant yet?
Sorry if that is taken the wrong way but my wife is in dentistry and we think it bizarre.
Mac





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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked over Green back when the right was still fractured. You used to have some decent policies, geared toward creating a sustainable economy. Lately, Green is being hijacked by "progressives" and, such being the case, I hope they never get a single MP but continue to split the left vote.

Hey, Justice... what's it like to be in a party that's been around so long and never scored a single victory? Doesn't that make you wonder??

-Mac
justice
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like a challenge as if no one here hasn't noticed.

Until you wrote it I forgot what name I was on this site now.

The first draft of our policy was reviewed this week.
I will advise as it is released.
I have to do something and I will.
Its called the"" vote Green as all the others want to"" ,,,,,tour.

""Good enough for Harper and Campbell why not go to the source"",,,, campaign.


I love all the green ties on the news footage.


Hey at least I can provide some different point of view until I am forced to change identities again.


Hows big erections?













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jw





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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF, if the Greens can show the local electorate that they are more than a one issue party AND if the non-environmental policies are half way decent, then they will do well. That's how I see it.

The Greens used to have a Progressive Conservative financial policy: NOW? I don't know. That needs to be explained.

There's really no doubt that the Greens will have to buy in more men to have more than 1 or 2 seats. What are they going to do to get out the average-male vote?

Canada is nervous right now, nervous people tend to vote more conservative lines. What are the Greens going to do about that?

LOT's of questions ...
BLueWLU





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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cerl7011 wrote:
100% yes!...if May runs in B.C., she'll take her seat...i think her best chance would be in...i think its Sea something Gulf Coast or Islands...i dunno...but thats where the greens have been getting the highest support...the environment is a high priority and Jack's New Socialists are looking a bit tired...

erl

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I believe that you're talking about Saanich - Gulf Islands. The green party has had really high hopes for this riding in the past two elections but then again I doubt that they'd be able to take this seat with Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn at the helm (I hope not anyways).
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