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Michael





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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: NDP delegates vote for Afghan troop pullout Reply with quote

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The New Democratic Party has made it official party policy to oppose the current mission in Afghanistan and to call for the immediate withdrawal of Canadian troops from there.

On Saturday, NDP delegates at a party convention in Quebec voted overwhelmingly in favour of leader Jack Layton's call for a pullout.

About 90 per cent of more than 1,500 delegates voted for a "safe and immediate" withdrawal from the region, which has seen a spike in Canadian casualties recently.

Sustained applause swept over the convention floor after officials announced the vote results.

"We have a really strong show of support from our members here today," Layton told reporters following the vote.

"Now we're calling on Canadians to join with us in calling on the Harper government to change the track he's currently on with (U.S. President) George Bush."

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This means nothing and won't gain them a single vote, even with the gratuitous use of Bush's name.

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Layton wants all 2,000 Canadian soldiers removed from the violent Kandahar province by February. But he favours keeping the few dozen Canadians currently working on reconstruction efforts in safer northern areas.


In other words, Jack Layton says that Canada should only be counted on to help out other countries as long as there's no personal danger to us.

What a freaking jackass.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It never ceases to amaze me that people actually vote for these people.. I mean, to support somebody who refers to the "american empire". I am extremely thankful that there is only about <a href="http://www.decima.com/en/pdf/news_releases/060906E.pdf">19% of canadians</a> that would currently support the NDP. I wonder how they're going to win votes when GWB isn't around anymore - we all know economic policies won't work :wink: well, not unless the homeless start voting like crazy. (we all know that prisoners vote liberal hehehe)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit of delicious irony, Sept 10th, 1939: Canada officially declared war against Germany. Sept 10th, 2006: the NDP announces that it is official party policy to oppose the call for the immediate withdrawal of Canadians troops from Afghanistan. Nice way to commemorate our involvement in the liberation of Europe.

I wonder when Jack would have wanted to get out WW II?

I did a quick comparison of today's mission in Afghanistan to WW II. If there are any holes in this logic, let me know.

I don't know when the first and last Canadian casualties happened, so I used Sept 10, 1939 as the start date (Canada declares war) and V-E Day (May 8, 1945) as the end date (not to sure about the Pacific theater, but I think V-E Day is a good end date). This works out to be 2,067 days of war. The number Canadians killed during the WW II was about 45,300. This is 22 soldiers killed a day for almost six years, about one an hour. Imagine the outcry if Jack and today's MSM was around then. I am sure that these numbers would be higher if I knew the date the first Canadian soldier was killed as the time gap would be a bit smaller.

From April 18, 2002 to Sept 10, 2006 (1606 days), there has been 33 Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan. That works out to 0.02 casualties a day. If Jack had his way, we would have pulled out of Europe after the first day.

It sickens me how the NPD are trying to score some political points on the backs of the soldiers who bravely gave their lives and the soldiers that are currently serving in Afghanistan.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed - Pacisifism in the face of snarling beasts ends up with a trip to the hospital.... or a morgue.

Lets just cross our fingers that Canadians as a whole remain vigilent...
CC Scott





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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone surprised? After all, someone at the convention had a resolution to socialize Canada's primary industries.
Christian Conservative





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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a little fun posting some satire on my blog about this... http://canadaconservative.blog.....egacy.html

The Tommy Douglas Legacy

Well, the Douglas family sure has left it's mark on Canadian politics. I hear that Shirley Douglas, Tommy's daughter, gave an address at the NDP convention in Quebec City, and I understand that a taped message from her son, Keifer Sutherland, was played there too... though apparently, according to one dipper blogger, she felt that he should have been more clear how he felt about the whole NDP movement.

Personally, I think that due to Keifer's recent work in Hollywood, the iconic persona's of two members Douglas family help to illustrate the two extremes of the North American political spectrum.

On the one hand we have Tommy Douglas, the "father" of the modern NDP. The myths about the man grow year after year. To him has been credited our modern Healthcare system. (though I'm sure he'd roll over in his grave if he saw the current bloated bureaucracy it's become... but that's another story) Today's NDP advocates socialism, statist social programs, and is packed full of far left activists of all stripes, including enviro-freaks and anti-war demonstrators, who are constantly spouting off their anti-war rhetoric... including "Taliban Jack", their fearless leader. Yes sir, they'd rather pull out of places like Afghanistan now than risk Canadian lives for the greater good of defeating Terrorism, and have no problems leaving the Taliban in charge to repress women, stop little girls from going to school, and mandate that all school-aged boys take the courses "AK47-101", and "Western Hatred-101". Though he'd likely oppose most of the modern-day positions of the NDP, Tommy Douglas is still the icon of the NDP.

Then, we have his grandson, Keifer Sutherland. Or, rather, his own iconic persona that better represents the political right... the invincible JACK BAUER. Just like his grandfather Tommy, the legend is indeed larger than life. As a member of the Los Angeles Counter Terrorism Unit, Jack has no fear of putting a terrorist in his place... a pine box. He's an advocate of state run health facilities... who else is going to keep suspects alive so he can pump them for information after he's detained them by popping a couple of caps in'em? He's certainly pro-Patriot Act... actually, he's a patriot in general, which is refreshing to see these days. He'll wiretap a phone anywhere, anytime, because everyone knows that only evil-doers have anything to fear from broad reaching electronic surveillance and monitoring. Your life is in danger? No problem, Jack Bauer will do what it takes to keep you alive and breathing, so you can go on spending your days complaining and protesting against Bush, Global Warming, the G8, the War in Iraq, etc. Yes siree, Jack Bauer has the stomach to do what needs to be done to stop terror in its tracks... and to take the fight to them for a change. No price is to great for Jack Bauer to pay to protect your hard-won, Western-style, hated-by-terrorists-everywhere, freedom.

Now, what was the NDP saying about the Afghanistan, the USA, George W. Bush, and the "War on Terror" this past weekend? Sorry, I missed the broadcast on CPAC...


UPDATE: It turns out the NDP want to tuck tail and run... figures.[/b]
Donald Hughes





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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Taliban Jack" is one of the most offensive insults I've heard in a long time.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donald Hughes wrote:
"Taliban Jack" is one of the most offensive insults I've heard in a long time.


Is that a good thing or bad thing?

If you are up for suggestions for offensive insults, what about this one:

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In such a situation Canadian troops end up acting like terrorists, destroying communities, killing and maiming innocent people.

Nanaimo-Cowichan NDP


I think it is time to support our troops.
Michael





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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

palomino_pony wrote:
I think it is time to support our troops.


Amen!
McGuire





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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donald Hughes wrote:
"Taliban Jack" is one of the most offensive insults I've heard in a long time.


Truth hurts don't it??
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just reading a blog post about total war with Islam and the need to avoid it. Pearl Harbor was the last time an event tipped the scales to total war. Japanese Canadians and Americans were interned. All civilian effort on the continent turned to military needs. Hamburg razed by fire bombs, thousands upon thousands dead, and the attacks continued. Millions of men and women shooting at each other. Nukes actually used. Either we take care of the Islamist threat now, in Afghanistan or wherever else we find it, in a controlled and surgical way, or there will be another Pearl Habor, and another total war.

Jack thinks 35 dead Canadians is bad? Wait till he sees what peace talks and withdrawl result in.

http://vodkapundit.com/archives/008890.php
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