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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote] Einstein was arguably the smartest person to ever walk on this planet and he studied MANY subjects not just physics. [quote]

you said it - Arguably.

Funny enough, the use of his comments to summarize your own thoughts is effective - but because of the name you use, it takes on the appearance of using his name as an authority. Most see Einstein quoted and they fall into the typical "Einstein Genious" Fallacy. You're an unfortunate victim of this most typical reaction - and my comments were mostly based on discouraging such reactions :wink:

And one should note that Social and economic policy are also extremely complicated subjects, and just because the general public(ourselves included) have a great deal to say about it, doesn't mean any of us not fully informed are right in any way, shape, or form.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donald Hughes wrote:

Anyways, it is absurd to quote Einstein, a pacifist and socialist, to justify war.


and this is where you became the victim ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering that Einstien was a resident in Germany during the rise of the Nazis and actually watched good people do nothing as evil won, I'd consider him emminantly qualified to comment on that facet of politics.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

touche...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tanks are arriving and the big question...will they stand up to anti tank rockets? Harper is going to go down as the biggiest idiot PM we ever had. :oops:

Look what happened in lebanon..hez "blah" had more rockets than anyone ever predicted...you don't think the enemy can't get them? :shock:

I believe that's what ended the Russian occupation...the US supplied the taliban with anti aircraft missles and it was end of story. The Russins had a 125,000 strong occupation force by the way and suffered the most casualties post world war 2 than any country.

There some physics for you 10 tanks+10 anti tank missles = 0 tanks :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Which missiles is the question Reply with quote

If the Taliban get hold of the same missiles used by Hezbollah, then, yes, we'll be in trouble. If not, they'll be in trouble. At the moment, the Taliban hasn't used advanced anti-tank missiles against us. If they had, the LAV III's would have been destroyed.

Your point is well taken, however, technology in warfare never sleeps.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I agree with fhilliard... We haven't seen them used up to date, so currently the leopards are acceptable. But technology changes, and tactics must with that technology.

I must say, blame should be placed on the last 11 years of liberal rule for the fact that we have old tanks (although they are still quite capable in the scheme of things)...

Harper must send what he has at his disposal, unfortunately thats rather limited. hack and slash tactics worked wonders ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The liberals did destroy us militarly but the problem really started when the conservatives demoralized the country and the military by destroying the "arrow".

That is when the downhill process begun for Canada...and is still in progress. We can't even defend ourselves unless we have help from another nation. Disgracefull!!! :twisted:
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh come on...

the Avro Arrow?

So the Avro Arrow set the stage for 50 years of ignoring the military??

ok...

The military had been reasonably well-kept until about the last couple decades..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Yes, it was the Arrow Reply with quote

I have always thought the one truly black mark against the old Progressive Conservative Party was what Diefenbaker did to the A.V. Roe company and the Avro Arrow. The way the program was cancelled. The way the prototypes were sent to the scrapyard. The way our best and brightest aero engineers were given the boot; it was cruel, stupid, short-sighted and inexcusable. So yes, Buddy Kat, is right.

Conservatives have a lot of reasons to be proud regarding the Canadian military, but the Avro Arrow isn't one of them. As for Diefenbaker, my distain knows no bounds. His statue should have a black ribbon hung on it every February 20 as an ongoing reminder of his short-sighted, plank-stupid decision.

Imagine, 14,000 workers laid off in one afternoon; 30,000 laid off altogether. I could go on, but you can read all about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_arrow
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not saying it wasn't a stupid choice... although, in many ways the security provided through NATO was vastly superior to the jet alone. . . So it's a difficult thing to say.

However, THAT one event is not what destroyed our military capabilities..
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

biggie rection wrote:
I'm not saying it wasn't a stupid choice... although, in many ways the security provided through NATO was vastly superior to the jet alone. . . So it's a difficult thing to say.

However, THAT one event is not what destroyed our military capabilities..


That one event by itself just set stage for Demoralization. After the arrow was scrapped and Canada rolled over to US dominatiion the next step occured.

The building of "DEW line" stations and "pine tree" line stations that dotted all off Canada from coast to coast was a real example of out of sight out of mind. While Canadians didn't have a clue that all these stations flew an american flag..were even considered american soil..and were for all intents and purposes US military bases. The Canadian military KNEW..how demoralizing for them ..this is our country with foriegn bases in it.

I would imagine governments when elected , finding this out would say "why should we buy this or build that, we have americans doing it for us". This continues to this day under a differant disguise....norad. Except Canadians play guest of the US and they don't get to fly flags on american soil.

Actually the demoralizing act of kissing american military butt is rampant in other government departments also..but I swore an oath not to tell which and why at one time.
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