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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject: Conservatives gang up on Bernier, imply he's racist! Reply with quote

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Andrew Scheer joins caucus members in condemning Bernier's 'identity politics'
'He's just poking us in the eye for no reason,' Conservative Sen. Salma Ataullahjan tells CBC

John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Aug 15, 2018 6:32 PM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago

Maxime Bernier received an official rebuke from his boss, Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer, and a broadside from a Pakistani-Canadian Conservative senator today as the party moved to distance itself from the former leadership contender's opinions on multiculturalism on the eve of its national convention.

Scheer pointed out in a statement issued this evening that Bernier "holds no official role in caucus and does not speak for the Conservative Party of Canada on any issue."

Referencing Bernier's recent tweets attacking the Liberal government's "extreme multiculturalism," Scheer said that "personally, I disagree with politicians on the left and the right when they use identity politics to divide Canadians.

"I will not engage in this type of politics.

"Conservatives celebrate Canada's diversity and a Conservative government will continue to welcome those from all over the world who choose to come here because of the society we have built."

Bernier described the decision to name the park after Jinnah as an example of Canada's tilt toward "extreme multiculturalism" under the federal Liberal government.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic.....-1.4786506


Make no mistake, stripping away the dog-whistle terminology, Scheer is tarring Bernier with the label of racist. He is trying to destroy him.

Bernier used the contrast between the removal of the statue of MacDonald in Victoria with the opening of the park in Winnipeg to make a point -- that so-called multiculturalism has moved beyond protecting opportunities for newcomers, to an attack on the symbols of the Canadian culture itself.

Let me be clear. Nobody is saying the naming of the new park is objectionable. It's up to the local folks. And nobody is saying that Pakistano-Canadians are in any way responsible for removing the statue of MacDonald. That isn't it.

Its the attack on the symbols of Canada that is objectionable.

Already they are started with the diversion and confusion routine. They are making Bernier defend himself from charges of being a racist! This is an attempt to destroy the man who, in all likelihood, would have won the leadership if the vote weren't 'weighted' -- or 'rigged'-- to make sure that the areas that never vote Conservative are fully represented ... what would have happened in a good, old-fashioned one-person-one-vote?

For those who imagine they are fighting racism -- this is how you start a nativist reaction. You treat the base population like offenders against their own values. The lack of logic of that should strike anyone -- but it doesn't. The loud-mouths, the TC-types generate innuendoes and create confusion like it's an antidote to a disease.

And Scheer is with the lynch mob. This is the way the Conservative Party brokers a party platform? By stifling the other voices with smears?

This is where the gloves come off, as far as I am concerned. He as locked into his own vanity as badly as Justin.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to show that Liberals join with Conservatives to denounce these crude attempts to stop us from erasing our own history ...

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Trudeau takes aim at Maxime Bernier for stoking 'politics of division'
John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Aug 16, 2018 11:50 AM ET | Last Updated: 22 minutes ago

In his first public remarks on the increasingly fractious debate over diversity in this country, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Maxime Bernier's tweets on "extreme multiculturalism" are just the latest display of the Conservative Party's penchant for the "politics of division."

Asked about Bernier's condemnation of the Liberals for embracing ever more diversity, Trudeau said the Conservative party "hasn't changed much since the time of Stephen Harper."

The remark was an apparent reference to the party's electioneering on the niqab face covering and a barbaric cultural practices hotline in the last election.

"They still look at the politics of division as a way of drawing political advantage, by pitting Canadians against each other," Trudeau told reporters at an event in Saint-Eustache, Que.

"The politics of division, yes, can work in the short term to help you get elected but it doesn't help you govern and mostly it doesn't help you solve the challenges that we are facing together as a society."

In a series of tweets posted Sunday, Bernier said promoting too much diversity could have the effect of dividing Canada into "little tribes" that cause division and erode Canada's social cohesion. He also criticized the city of Winnipeg's decision to rename a park there after Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the founder of the modern state of Pakistan.

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer issued a statement late Wednesday amid the Bernier fracas saying he doesn't agree with "politicians on the left and the right when they use identity politics to divide Canadians," adding he will not personally engage in that sort of politics.

Scheer said Conservatives celebrate Canada's diversity.

He also said Bernier holds no official role — he was booted from the party's "shadow cabinet" after sparring with Scheer over supply management — and does not speak for the party "on any issue." [....]
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic.....-1.4787529


Watch the media fan this into a flame, if they can. Bernier is going to be "Ghomeshied" before our eyes! (For those of you unfamiliar with the idea of being '"ghomeshied", it's the public destruction of a persona on mere allegations and innuendo alone.)

This will get the opposite treatment to the Danforth murders. Where questions are being swept under the rug in the one case, mere speculations will be entertained and encouraged in this one.

And the head wizard is Andrew Scheer ...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maxime Bernier has a base. Is it big enough to protect him?
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer hasn't said whether he'll boot Bernier from caucus. Can he afford to?
Éric Grenier · CBC News · Posted: Aug 16, 2018 4:44 PM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago

Is Maxime Bernier too big to boot?

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer has tried to distance himself from Bernier's controversial tweets about diversity and multiculturalism but will not say whether he is taking any steps to remove the Quebec MP from his party's caucus.

After stripping Bernier of his critic's portfolio in June, there is little more that Scheer can do to punish Bernier — apart from moving to drop him from caucus altogether.

If Bernier represents a significant segment of the Conservative constituency, however, ejecting him might be a risky move for Scheer to make — one that could alienate some of the party's most engaged supporters.

But Bernier's Twitter bark might be more impressive than his bite in the real world. A number of metrics suggest Bernier's base might not be as formidable as it seems.

The runner-up in the party's 2017 leadership race certainly knows how to steal headlines away from his boss. According to Google Trends, in the two months prior to Bernier losing his critic's portfolio, Scheer was beating Bernier in search interest by a margin of nearly five-to-one.

Since then, however, the margin dropped to only two-to-one — and since Bernier's initial social media posts on multiculturalism on Aug. 13, twice as much search engine interest in Canada has been directed at him than at Scheer.

Bernier has said that he wants to continue defending his conservative principles and will use the money he raises from his own supporters to spread his message and meet with Conservative Party members who share or are interested in his point of view.

But the people Bernier is cultivating — his 'Mad Max Club', as he calls it — aren't enough to make him a juggernaut within the party.

Bernier ranks fourth among Conservatives on social media
The Quebec MP has about 45,000 followers on Twitter, which ranks him fourth in the Conservative caucus behind Scheer, Ontario MP Tony Clement and Alberta MP Michelle Rempel. While he has about six times as many Twitter followers as the average Conservative caucus member, he is still well behind Scheer's 88,000 followers.

On Facebook, Bernier's page ranks fifth among caucus members in the number of likes — behind Scheer, Rempel, Ontario MP Lisa Raitt and Manitoba MP Candice Bergen. He trails Scheer by an even wider margin on this platform, at 57,000 likes to 199,000 for Scheer.

That Bernier's total Twitter and Facebook following ranks him fourth overall in the Conservative caucus is not insignificant — he ranks well ahead of some frontbench MPs and other former leadership contenders — but it hardly makes him invulnerable.

And his following pales in comparison to that of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who has four million Twitter followers and six million Facebook likes.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Green Leader Elizabeth May also have wider social media audiences than Bernier.

Does Bernier's fundraising prowess help the party?
But Bernier's ability to raise money cannot be disputed. Earlier this month, he announced that he had finished paying off his debts from his leadership bid — and will continue to raise money.

He took in about $218,000 in the first six months of 2018, of which $11,000 went to the Conservatives as the party's share of his leadership donations. But apart from that tiny take (the Conservatives have raised more than $12 million so far this year), it isn't clear that Bernier is actually giving them a significant boost in fundraising.

That's particularly the case in Bernier's home province, where the party has had some trouble raising money. Filings with Elections Canada indicate that about five per cent of the money raised from donors giving at least $200 to the Conservative Party in 2018 came from Quebec. Extrapolating that to the total Conservative fundraising haul for the year so far suggests that about $575,000 has been raised in the province.

Bernier himself took in just $50,000 from Quebec and his Beauce riding association raised just $16,000 in 2017. The Beauce represents just a tiny share of the party's overall contributions. Despite Bernier's ability to fill his own coffers, he doesn't seem to be a particularly profitable MP for the party.

In other words, cutting him loose may not cost the Conservatives very much money.

Voters to win, voters to lose
It might not cost them much in votes, either. After Bernier lost the Conservative leadership, the Libertarian Party made overtures on social media for Bernier to lead their party last summer. A poll conducted at the time by Abacus Data, however, found that just two per cent of Canadians would vote for a Bernier-led Libertarian Party.

This hypothetical party did no better in Quebec than in the rest of the country — again, a sign that Bernier might not be a big part of the Conservatives' hopes in the province.

But there are voters that could be lost to the Conservatives if they don't make a clean break with Bernier — particularly among those new Canadians the party worked so hard to woo under Jason Kenney during his stint as the immigration minister. These voters are concentrated in swing ridings in suburban areas around Toronto and Vancouver — the kind of ridings that could decide the next election.

Of course, elections are won with the help of money and volunteers — and sending a message that the Conservatives don't want the kind of people who agree with Bernier could sap their pool of donors and door-knockers.

But Bernier is not untouchable and the Conservatives can survive without him. As he mulls what to do with Bernier, Scheer might be asking himself whether the Conservatives can survive with him.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic.....-1.4787813


You get the idea that the numbers are what count here. The real cost is that Scheer has taken a man who could have been a huge asset to the party in Quebec, and is in the process of destroying him (with the willing connivance of the Liberals and the media).

You don't make the accusations of racism the centre of party debate without having a 'final solution' in mind.

And, on the other side -- Bernier is fundraising on his own behalf. He is going to split the party if they make this move.

Grenier and his empty numbers aside, Bernier is the wild card in Canadian politics right now. The Liberals will be as happy as Scheer to see this move succeed.

The tragedy goes back to the rigged voting system the head office imposed on us. Who would our leader be today if it were a regular election? Put differently, if the votes weren't weighted, who would have won the leadership?

Personally, I am through donating to this party until it gives me a reason to support them. I will go with Bernier.
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