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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christine Elliot ..... please !

She could be a formidable foe to Wynne.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

January 25, 2018

Ontario PC Party would be wrong to hold a leadership race right now

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The Ontario PC Party is without a leader after the abrupt resignation of Patrick Brown late last night amid allegations of sexual misconduct with two different women.

Brown denies the allegations, but many party members say his alleged mistreatment of women was an open secret.

But Brown’s sexual misconduct was not his only problem. He also had broken many of the conservative promises he made when running for the leadership of the Ontario PC Party. Brown had campaigned as a fiscally responsible and even socially conservative candidate, and he had governed as the complete opposite. Brown flip-flopped when he endorsed the implementation of a carbon tax; he shocked party members with his support for the controversial federal motion M103, and he upset many with his disregard for other grassroots policies.

Brown’s tenure was also plagued with allegations of corruption. Many riding associations were furious with their local candidate nominations. Police and lawyers have been involved in multiple investigations surrounding nominations, causing many members of their respective associations to support Brown’s resignation for those reasons alone.

The Ontario PC Party needs to move on from Brown, and quickly. But a leadership election might not be the best solution.

Under the Ontario PC Party constitution, a leadership election is conducted through the “one member, one vote” mantra. The logistics for executing that process are considerable and would be difficult and costly to implement in such a small time frame. Especially when current party president Rick Dykstra has faced similar allegations as Brown, and could be the next person to be forced out. That would cause 1st Vice President, Jag Badwal to be the new party president.

And holding a leadership campaign could allow the mainstream media to continue to focus on Brown, rather than move on.

Alternatively, the caucus could appoint a new interim leader and ratify that person as the actual leader. Although caucus can appoint anyone to the interim position, it is most likely that they would appoint a fellow caucus MPP. Nipissing MPP, Vic Fedeli could be a front-runner for such a position.

With the Ontario provincial election looming, the Ontario PC Party needs to act fast if they want a shot at winning.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The prospect of another term of Kathleen Wynne is enough to get people to vote NDP!

We should start a Draft Patrick movement. Who is there in the caucus that would be better? They are ambitious, that's all -- when the leadership was up for grabs, how many of them were contenders?

Remember what I said about who the Toronto Conservative types think the Conservative Party's base is, and who it really is? This is an example of in-the-bubble thinking. There's a way out of this -- and before the election too. This is also why you need social conservatives.

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Brown’s down, who’s up? 7 potential successors to lead Ontario PCs

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Ontario Patient Ombudsman Christine Elliott takes part in a presentation hosted by the North East LHIN at Health Sciences North in Sudbury, Ont. on Thursday March 30, 2017. John Lappa/Sudbury Star/Postmedia Network

The abrupt resignation of Ontario’s opposition leader amid allegations of sexual misconduct has many speculating who could take Patrick Brown’s place.

Here are seven potential successors:


Mounted the most formidable challenge to Brown as he sought the party leadership. Is seen by many as a logical choice to take his place. Elliott has served as Ontario’s first patient ombudsman since July 2016, fielding complaints about people’s experience with the province’s health-care system.


MacLeod was first elected to the Ontario legislature in 2006 in the riding of Nepean-Carleton, a position she has held ever since. She mounted a bid for the PC Party leadership, but withdrew a few months before the convention and threw her support behind Elliott.


The daughter of former prime minister Brian Mulroney recently announced a desire to enter politics when she secured the PC nomination to run in the riding of York-Simcoe. Prior to announcing her political plans, Mulroney served as vice-president of Toronto-based BloombergSen Investment Partners.


The former federal minister of foreign affairs served at various levels of government for 20 years, beginning as an MPP for Nepean. Baird served under premiers Mike Harris and Ernie Eves before moving to federal politics. He was appointed to various positions in former prime minister Stephen Harper’s cabinet from 2006-15.


The former mayor of North Bay has been an MPP for Nipissing since 2011 and is well known for his philanthropy. Fedeli’s bid for the PC leadership fell short back in 2015. He endorsed Elliott for the job ahead of Brown.


A long shot — especially after the political outsider revealed his intention to try again to defeat John Tory in a Toronto mayoral race. Recent polling suggests Tory would easily defeat the former city councillor if the election were held today.


The federal Conservative Party’s deputy leader has been a Member of Parliament since 2008. Raitt held various positions in Harper’s cabinet — including minister of Natural Resources, minister of labour and minister of transport. Raitt’s bid to lead the federal Conservatives fell short in 2016.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denley: Why the Liberals might end up missing Patrick Brown

Randall Denley

Published on: January 26, 2018 | Last Updated: January 26, 2018 7:10 AM EST

Premier Kathleen Wynne and the Ontario Liberals must not be able to believe their luck. The self-destruction of one’s key opponent just four months before an election is an astounding development that seems to substantially increase the Liberals’ chance of re-election.

It might be just a little too soon to pop the champagne corks, however. Patrick Brown’s resignation as Progressive Conservative leader does dramatically alter the dynamics of June’s election, but it isn’t all in the Liberals’ favour. Let’s not forget that the change in leadership will throw the Liberal campaign into disarray, too. They were geared up to destroy Patrick Brown, but he’s done that himself.

The Liberals were expected to run a two-pronged campaign. One would feature all the wonderful fairness things in their own platform. The other would have tried to persuade voters that Brown was a really bad guy based on old votes from his days as a backbench MP in the Stephen Harper government. That’s all dead now.

Editorial: Patrick Brown in the era of sexual misconduct allegations

Faced with a lesser-known and innocuous PC leader, the Liberals will struggle to make their opponent seem like Satan’s second cousin. Then there is the problem with the similarity of the two platforms. One of the things Brown did right was to adopt many key Liberal planks, then add a tax cut, a better child care program and serious money for mental health. It will be hard for the Liberals to disparage the PC plan because it is so much like their own.

Not to say that the new PC leader does not face a huge challenge, but that can be turned into an advantage. The new leader automatically starts as an underdog with low expectations. People like underdogs. With Brown as leader, the PCs were expected to win. That magnifies every mistake and quickly leads to the “he’s blowing it” narrative. The new leader will score points just by showing up and seeming sensible.

The new leader will have lots of work to do reuniting the party. That’s critical to winning the election. The PCs were deeply divided by Brown’s victory. There are two distinct camps. The first consists of those who wanted to burn the party to the ground after too many consecutive losses. Patrick Brown was the man with the torch. The other element in the party considered Brown’s victory a hostile takeover. Those people never warmed to Brown, and a number of nomination irregularities in which Brown and his executive ignored grassroots concerns didn’t help.

The second group will not be heartbroken to see Brown go. The tough part will be to keep the allegiance of the new people he brought into the party.

There is no doubt the party will campaign on the platform Brown devised. It has a lot to offer and at this point, has no other choice. It might want to take Brown’s picture off the cover.

Brown’s campaign team and senior staff, an experienced and skilled group, quit when he resisted their advice to resign. It’s nice to see that someone still has principles. The new leader will be running the same campaign. It should be a priority to get these folks back in their offices Monday morning.

In truth, Patrick Brown was a lukewarm leader, the kind many PCs would have had to hold their noses to vote for. He seemed inauthentic, a striver with an undistinguished track record and an ambition that outstripped his talents.

Brown was running on an enhanced version of the Liberal plan, giving voters a chance to choose Liberal ideas without getting the Liberals. The new PC leader will offer that plan, but with the further improvement that they can have Brown’s plan without Brown. It just might be a winning formula.

Before the election is over, the Liberals might find themselves missing Patrick Brown more than the PCs do.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( Fedeli was chosen intern leader of the pc's although its not clear if he'll lead them into election )

Vic Fedeli chosen as interim leader of Ontario PCs with election looming

The Nipissing MPP was considered by many to be a favourite heading into the meeting

CBC News Posted: Jan 26, 2018 9:14 AM ET| Last Updated: Jan 26, 2018 12:29 PM ET

MPP Vic Fedeli was chosen as the interim leader of Ontario's Progressive Conservatives by the party's caucus after Patrick Brown was forced to resign the post following allegations of sexual misconduct from two women.

Fedeli, the representative from the riding of Nipissing, was considered by many to be a front runner heading into snap caucus meeting Friday morning.

It's not yet clear if Fedeli will lead the party into the June 7 provincial election or if a leadership race will be held.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( the pc's plan to hold a leadership race before the election )

Ontario PCs to hold leadership race before next election

Decision by executive committee contrasts wishes of caucus, which named Vic Fedeli as interim

CBC News Posted: Jan 26, 2018 9:14 AM ET| Last Updated: Jan 26, 2018 6:51 PM ET

Vic Fedeli was voted by caucus as interim leader of Ontario PC Party after Patrick Brown stepped down amid sexual misconduct allegations.

The Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario will hold a leadership race ahead of the upcoming provincial election, the party's executive committee announced Friday, hours after its caucus appointed an interim leader.

All 200,000 members of the party will vote on March 24 on a new leader to challenge Liberal Premier Kathleen Wynne. But officially, what party president Rick Dykstra vowed will be a "very competitive, spirited race," hasn't started yet. Dykstra said the time frame will be established later.

"This is going to have to be a very quick process," he told reporters on Friday afternoon.

The "aggressive" move contrasts an earlier decision by the party's caucus that MPP Vic Fedeli would serve as leader through the upcoming election on June 7.

"At the end of the day this party always stands united, always stands focused and I can assure you that when this is finished before the end of March, we will be ready to take on government in June of 2018," he said.

Dykstra noted that Fedeli will be able to run in the leadership race.

"He is our leader. He will be given the chance to do everything necessary to have us in great shape for that leadership race," he said.

Fedeli, legislature member representing the northeastern Ontario riding of Nipissing and the party's finance critic for the last five years, took over one day after Patrick Brown resigned following allegations of sexual misconduct levied by two women.

"It's humbling and an honour to have the unanimous support of my colleagues and friends in the Ontario PC caucus," Fedeli told reporters from the provincial legislature in Toronto.

"We need to focus immediately on Kathleen Wynne and the Liberals. There is no time to waste."

While Brown remains as MPP for Simcoe North and has denied any wrongdoing, Fedeli called for him to voluntarily take a leave of absence as the allegations are investigated, despite having the power to force Brown out of the caucus if he wants.

Fedeli has said he was "disgusted" by the allegations, but also said he "never saw anything that would have indicated" such behaviour by Brown.

Lisa MacLeod, MPP for Nepean–Carleton, told reporters on Friday that the caucus is "united" behind Fedeli.

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A Queen's Park legislative staff member takes down Brown's office name at the provincial legislature.

"We're turning a new page and I think people will be able to sleep tonight," she said.

At least one caucus member said the party would be best served by Fedeli staying on in the role.

"We're 133 days from the election, we have a lot of very, very capable people in this caucus that have been through these wars before and they know what to expect and I think, while there are those out there who may be ready for a leadership race, this isn't the right time for that," MPP Todd Smith said.

Smith added that the PCs will continue to "sell the plan" that Brown and the campaign team put forward last November, which they call the People's Guarantee.

"This was a plan… that was developed by all of our party members. Why would we want to go changing anything like that right now? I think we have a really good plan that can win."

Fedeli echoed that sentiment while speaking to reporters, reiterating that the policy platform was derived from years-long consultations with members across Ontario.

Another caucus member, Gila Martow, said that no matter what approach the party takes, it must get back on track fast.

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Fedeli was chosen by caucus after a lengthy morning meeting. He was considered by many to be a favourite for the role. (Nathan Denette/Canadian Press)

"I've been hearing nonstop from people that they want us to move quickly, get things in order and carry on what we've been doing," she said.

An open letter circulating on social media, however, called on the executive committee to hold a leadership contest in the coming weeks "so that we can offer Ontarian the certainty and stability of a permanent leader as they choose which party should form government and who should become premier.

"Party members have the right to choose their leader," reads the letter, which was endorsed by several high-profile PC candidates who are not currently in caucus.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( there are plans for a vote in March but other than Fedeli , its not clear if there are even any other candidates , it sounds like the caucus gave him there full support and no other sitting mpp wanted the job , so any other potential candidates are going to come from outside the caucus and won't have a seat in legislature and might not be nominated to run in election )

Northern MPP confident he will be next PC leader

By The Canadian Press

Saturday, January 27, 2018 6:17:12 EST AM

Ontario’s Progressive Conservatives will hold a leadership race to replace Patrick Brown, who resigned this week in the face of sexual misconduct allegations.

Party officials and members are downplaying the risk it will create divisions within the party ahead of a spring provincial election.

The party’s executive voted late Friday afternoon to hold the race and select a new leader sometime before March. The move will please some candidates and grassroots party members who insisted they should have a direct say in the leadership decision but runs contrary to the wishes of the party’s caucus, which named Tory finance critic Vic Fedeli as interim leader earlier in the day.

The caucus of elected legislators wanted Fedeli to lead the party through the election to avoid a divisive, and potentially costly, race.

Party president Rick Dykstra said the executive has not yet established a firm time frame for the race but conceded it will be a challenge.

“This will be a very aggressive time frame,” he said. “Look ... this is going to have to be a very quick process.”

Dykstra said the party will form a committee to set up and oversee the leadership race. He insisted that the PCs can remain united throughout the contest.

“At the end of the day this party always stands united, always stands focused and I can assure you that when this is finished before the end of March, we will be ready to take on government in June of 2018,” he said.

Fedeli told reporters that he respects the decision and will be a candidate for the permanent leadership.

“I fully expect to be the leader that takes us into the election,” he said. “I was made party leader by the caucus in a unanimous decision today and now the executive have asked that we go into a leadership race. I fully support their decision. They have the final say the way our constitution works.”

Fedeli said he will stress his record, both in business and political life, in upcoming race. He also downplayed the notion that the race could cause fractures in the party.

“I think it’s going to be time to shine a light on the party,” he said. “You’re going to see lots of great people having lots of spirited debates. As long as the light is shining on our party and people are hearing about the PC platform I think it’s a great opportunity.”

Rod Phillips, the former Postmedia executive and star candidate for the party running in Ajax, Ont., co-signed a letter Thursday with 27 other Tory candidates asking the party executive to hold a leadership election.

“This is good day for the Ontario PC Party,” Phillips said in a social media post. “As I said yesterday, the leader who takes us into the election must have a strong mandate from our members; putting us in the best position possible to defeat Kathleen Wynne and her government. I look fwd to hearing more details.”

Phillips is one of a number of Tory members not in the legislative caucus touted as a potential leadership candidate, including Caroline Mulroney and Christine Elliott. Asked by The Canadian Press earlier on Friday if he intends to run if a convention is set, he wouldn’t say.

Mulroney, the daughter of former prime minister Brian Mulroney who is also running as a provincial PC candidate, greeted the news positively.

“Our party is stronger when all of our members across the province have their voices heard about who will lead us into the next election,” she said in a statement on Twitter. “Together, we will emerge from this leadership race stronger and more united to take back Ontario from Kathleen Wynne and the Liberals.”

The race was prompted by the sudden resignation of Patrick Brown as party leader early Thursday, hours after emphatically denying what he called “troubling allegations” about his conduct and his character. The allegations, which have not been independently verified by The Canadian Press, were made by two women who spoke to CTV News.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

( I'm really not sure what the party hopes will come out of this leadership race ? attention for the party maybe ? but to give fedeli the job for a month or so then dump him days or weeks before an election for possibly Caroline Mulroney a candidate we never really heard of until recently doesn't make a lot of sense )

Did Progressive Conservatives just give away the game?

By opting to hold a leadership race the party will pit Tory against Tory and bleed resources when they should be focused on the Liberals, Martin Regg Cohn writes.

MPP Vic Fedeli was named interim leader of the Ontario PCs and is seen greeting members of his caucus on Jan. 26, 2018 at Queen's Park. The Ontario PC caucus met Friday morning at Queen's Park and has decided to hold a leadership race.

By Martin Regg CohnOntario Politics Columnist

Fri., Jan. 26, 2018

Never underestimate the ability of the Progressive Conservative opposition to miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

First, we give you Vic Fedeli, 61. Possibly the province’s next premier.

Then we take him away, so we can play.

A day after the party’s public self-immolation, with ex-leader Patrick Brown publicly tarred and feathered for alleged sexual transgressions, Fedeli seemed — for a few hours Friday — like the phoenix rising from the ashes to transmogrify the Tories.

The unanimous choice of his fellow MPPs to lead them into the June 7 election, he would bring stability and predictability to a party recovering from the perils of a puerile leader. If, that is, the Tories would only let him take them all the way to power with a formal campaign barely three months away, and the pre-election homestretch already underway.

Such was the state of play Friday afternoon, when caucus emerged united behind Fedeli as their fully-fledged “leader” — no mere interim, they insisted. Elected MPPs sent a strong message to the party executive that there was no time for infighting, that it was too late to target one another in a leadership race before pivoting to their real enemy, Premier Kathleen Wynne.

But the party executive balked. Acquiescing to pressure from outside candidates who aspire to be premier with the party leading in most polls, PC president Rick Dykstra emerged late Friday to kick off a formal leadership vote within weeks.

That left Fedeli as the unencumbered leader for just a day, or more precisely, an afternoon. Permanent leader still to come, just in time for June 7.

Too bad, for Fedeli might have been the best thing to happen to the PCs after 14 long years in the political wilderness. And a welcome change from Brown, 39 — a full-time professional politician since his university days.

By contrast, Fedeli’s a grownup who held a job outside politics. He’s run a wildly successful business that made him a multi-millionaire. He’s overseen a city that made him a wildly popular, two-term, dollar-a-year mayor.

He’s a son of the North who’s travelled the world. He’s happily married, seriously funny and amusingly media-friendly.

Oh, and he’s had on-the-job training at Queen’s Park, as the top cabinet critic on the opposition front benches. First as energy critic, cutting his teeth on the gas plant boondoggles; and more recently baring his teeth over the province’s finances as budget critic.

True, he’s an old white guy in a suit, with grey hair to boot — and a fondness for cowboy boots and denim shirts. Colour him avuncular.

He’s calm in a crisis and respectful to a fault. Qualities that would stand him in good stead as he tries to right the good ship Tory lest it drown in tears of sorrow or waves of insinuation and recrimination.

Back in 2014, after the party’s last electoral debacle, Fedeli first sought the leadership yet never gained traction — overtaken by the early frontrunner, Christine Elliott, and outhustled by the eventual winner, Brown. This week, by contrast, he had a posse of supporters led by the younger and newer dynamos in caucus such as Todd Smith, Michael Harris, Bill Walker and Lisa MacLeod.

Today, in 2018, the campaign to dislodge Fedeli as premier-in-waiting, and put caucus in its place, was led by the two most ambitious aspirants for the leadership job — former Postmedia and CivicAction chair Rod Philips, and lawyer Caroline Mulroney (better known as the daughter of a certain former prime minister). The two rivals compared notes Thursday, issuing twin statements decrying the elitism of those who would dare to appoint a leader in a crisis situation. Watching from the sidelines was Doug Ford, brother of the former mayor and son of an ex-Tory MPP, who has publicly mused about his Ford Nation followers taking over the party.

They carried the day Friday.

In an ideal world, a leadership race is a democratic ideal worth aspiring to. But in the real world of the provincial party’s upheaval, a last-minute vote seems like a charade chasing a chimera.

In today’s Ontario, PC leadership conventions are far from the democratic idea or idyll we imagine. The timing is tight, pitting Tories against one another and bleeding resources when they should be mounting a coherent opposition against the governing Liberals and laying the groundwork for their own march to power.

As Brown demonstrated with his 2015 shock-and-awe campaign that took over the party — replete with sign here, pay later membership tactics — a leadership race is easily gamed, hijacked, manipulated and defrauded by relying on recruitment with no money down.

In short — especially when time is short — a leadership campaign can be utterly undemocratic. No politician will dare say this publicly, for fear of being branded elitist, but most will confess privately that leadership conventions and even local nomination meetings lend themselves to mass recruitment campaigns that distort both demography and democracy.

The Tories have made their choice, and it is a call to arms. First against themselves, and only then against the governing Liberals.

We give you the new, improved, confused, Progressive Conservatives.


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( one high profile female candidate is not interested , Lisa raitt has ruled herself out as a candidate )

Lisa Raitt‏Verified account @lraitt · 54m54 minutes ago

I commend the #PCPO for opening up this race, allowing everyone a voice in selecting our next leader. While it will not be me, I will continue to work with our candidates across the province to ensure a new, @OntarioPCParty government June 7! #PCPO #PCPOLdr (1/2)

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Oh, great, maybe we can have a preferential ballot, and weight the votes so that the areas that never vote Conservative are fully represented -- again!

This is looking more and more like a bureaucratic coup d'etat than a story that was sniffed out by a group of top journalists.

Fedeli tackling allegations of questionable party spending in Brown era
A party fundraiser alleged that while Patrick Brown was leader, the Progressive Conservative party executive was wasting money on costly lawsuits and rewarding allies with contracts.

By ROBERT BENZIEQueen's Park Bureau Chief
Sun., Jan. 28, 2018
Progressive Conservative interim leader Vic Fedeli is moving quickly to tackle allegations of questionable party spending during the Patrick Brown era, the Star has learned.

Fedeli, elected Friday by Tory MPPs, was spurred to act after a blistering confidential memo was sent to members of the PC Ontario Fund on Saturday morning by Ottawa businessman Thom Bennett, a respected party fundraiser.

Bennett alleged that while Brown — who resigned Thursday after a sex scandal allegedly involving teens — was leader, the PC party executive was wasting money on costly lawsuits and rewarding allies with contracts.

“It’s important that our caucus have a very serious look at the accusations that are made in the letter,” Fedeli told the Star on Saturday after taping Global News’ Focus Ontario.

Asked if it’s “time to clean house,” the interim leader replied: “I don’t want to jump the gun. We need to take this very seriously and be decisive in our actions going forward.”

Fedeli said Bennett is “a very credible, lifelong PC party member” who has sounded alarm bells.

In his internal memo, the Ottawa insurance executive stressed that the party, which is believed to have spent more than $1.5 million on legal fees and settlements involving contentious candidate nomination contests, needs to turn off the taps.

“I want to make a motion stating that all payments of funds to reimburse lawyers defending legal suits against the PC Party of Ontario cease — immediately,” wrote Bennett.

“We must stop this bleeding — nay gushing of hundreds of thousands of dollars from the PC Ontario Fund — and it must be stopped now.

“I want a list of our PC Party of Ontario executives who are on the payroll of the PC Party of Ontario, or firms doing business with or paid by either of the PC Party of Ontario or PC Ontario Fund.”

Bennett wrote that he is concerned there may be members of the party executive who are in a “conflict of interest” due to payments for legal work, research or other services.

Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario president Rick Dykstra, who announced Friday that the Tories would elect a new permanent leader before the June 7 election, did not return messages seeking comment.

Why is it that party insiders are building up a case against Brown, particularly since he has resigned? This is really something that makes me doubly suspicious. Brown came out of nowhere and won the leadership by hard work in the vinyards of politics. He took over a demoralized, broke party and turned it around financially and electorally. He had to have been the long-odds favourite to be the next Premier of Ontario.

Little did he know that he was to play John the Baptist to the new administration.

Normally in politics, success solidifies support within the ranks. In Brown's case, it was the opposite. I admit, I think a woman does not meet a much older guy in a bar, go back to his place, have another drink, accept an invitation of a tour of the house ... and ends up ... in his bedroom. Don't tell me she isn't aware of what was happening, if it happened at all.

It just seems too contrived. And now, the guy who got the debts paid off and money in the bank ready for the election is being examined on his use of funds. Bullshit. This isn't why they got rid of him, this is piling on after, with a spending disagreement. It's all to heap more humiliation on Brown, because, after all, who does the other side have that's better?

Fideli seems an OK candidate, and he may be a good speaker, but I don't believe he's the guy who organized this. He's a favourite of the caucus, perhaps.

A leadership convention is a stupid idea. The election is in June -- like 130 days away!

There may be somebody that can fill Brown's shoes, but this smacks of elite politics too much. Who is it that is making these decisions? Does anyone know? And how come it's all taking place behind closed doors?

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( its not clear if there is even any candidates for this leadership race , Tony Clement a former mpp and often a leadership candidate is not interested in running either )

Tony Clement‏Verified account @TonyclementCPC · 58m58 minutes ago

In answer to numerous inquiries I’m confirming that I’m staying in federal politics, BUT I’m not disinterested in the health and the success of the Ontario PCs. We need change in Queen’s Park and i will do my part! #onpoli @OntarioPCParty

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( doug ford is considering a bid , although unclear how a ford bid would go over in the pc party ? they didn't even want him as a candidate in etobicoke even though he could of won a seat )

Doug Ford says he is considering entering Ontario PC leadership race

Codi Wilson, CTV News Toronto
Published Sunday, January 28, 2018 11:56AM EST
Last Updated Sunday, January 28, 2018 12:02PM EST

Toronto mayoral candidate Doug Ford says he is considering a run for the leadership of the Ontario PC Party.

Sources tell CP24 that Ford will be meeting with possible donors, staff, and supporters today and speaking to CP24 on Sunday, Ford said he could have an answer as early as Monday.

The news comes after Patrick Brown resigned as the party’s leader following sexual misconduct allegations, which Brown strongly denies.

Tory finance critic Vic Fedeli has been selected as interim leader, however, the party’s executive have voted to hold a leadership race and select the new head of the party sometime before March.

Other possible leadership candidates include Christine Elliot, who was the runner-up in the last leadership race, and Caroline Mulroney, the daughter of former prime minister Brian Mulroney.

Fedeli has also said he intends to run for permanent leadership.

This is not the first time Ford has considered running for the leadership. In 2014, Ford said that he was considering a run in the 2015 race but ultimately decided not to move forward as a candidate.

In a Forum Research poll released after Brown’s resignation, 12 per cent of respondents said they would put their support behind Christine Elliot, while 11 per cent said they would support Ford as the next leader of the party.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( if anyone can figure out whats going on with the ont pc party let us know ? apparently a long list of senior staff members are being let go )

Mike Crawley‏Verified account @CBCQueensPark · 1h1 hour ago

Patrick Brown loyalist Bob Stanley has been dismissed as @OntarioPCParty executive director. Also dumped from opposition leader’s office: Garfield Dunlop, Tamara Macgregor, Rebecca Thompson. #ONpoli #pcpo

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( john tory is apparently not running after some rumours that he might run )

Anthony Furey‏Verified account @anthonyfurey · 35m35 minutes ago

John Tory is going to announce today he's not running for Ontario PC leader, a source tells me.
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Ontario pc Leadership , whats next ?

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