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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:47 pm    Post subject: Trudeau's Pricey Country Cottage Reply with quote

there was an interesting article in today's sun , it seems to have disappeared from the internet so unable to copy it in full , but a link to the story on pressreader.com was found


basically explains that over $500,000 has been spent on a government owned cottage on Harrington Lake north of Ottawa by trudeau since he became PM . a list of repairs is mentioned .

everyone knows about 24 sussex but not as many know about this cottage which is apparently owned by the government and some sort of official residence ?

I don't know but $500,000 in repairs and such in 2 years sounds excessive and it doesn't appear harper spent that kind of money on this little known residence when he was PM , its just another example of the sense of entitlement that grips the PMO , who didn't see anything wrong with this kind of spending , he says he's helping the middleclass , how is spending half a million dollars , on a little known virtually hidden residence helping anyone but himself ?


https://www.pressreader.com/canada/toronto-sun/20170508/281818578743460
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( managed to find the original article )


Bills at PM's country home add up to nearly $500K

By Jon Willing, Ottawa Sun
First posted: Sunday, May 07, 2017 04:04 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, May 08, 2017 08:15 AM EDT


Harrington Lake
Prime Minister of Canada's official country residence at Harrington Lake, Quebec, as shown on Wednesday August 15, 2012.



Around this time every year, cottage owners take stock of their summer hideaways to see how much they’ll shell out to keep the cosy nooks up to snuff for another season.

The National Capital Commission knows all about cottage repairs, judging by the list of nearly $500,000 in work that has gone into keeping the prime minister’s country home at Harrington Lake habitable for the past two years.

NCC spokesman Nicholas Galletti said the building envelope and the systems controlling the heating, ventilation and air conditioning have reached the end of their life cycles. The agency is working with other federal departments on a plan to make the necessary repairs, he said.

The 13-acre lakeside estate nestled in the Gatineau Hills near Chelsea, Que., has been under NCC management since 1986, but the summer home dates back to the 1920s. The federal government bought the land in 1951 before making it the official summer digs for prime ministers.

The compound includes a staff cottage and two guest cottages.

Just like the prime minister’s official residence in Ottawa, the summer home in the Outaouais is aging and has required a regimen of maintenance and upgrades.

Unlike 24 Sussex Drive, though, the Harrington Lake home-away-from-home is still in tolerable condition. In fact, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has used the property to host VIPs.

The list of expenses, which was obtained by access-to-information specialist Ken Rubin, was produced in January 2017 and itemizes payments going back to April 2015. The list includes payments made to Hydro Québec for utilities.

A house of this vintage and importance needs to have a clean safety record. The NCC has paid thousands of dollars to maintain generators, inspect fire protection systems and clean the stone chimneys.

More than $17,000 went into upgrading the septic system over the two years. The septic tank needed replacing at an additional cost of $8,800. A hot water tank needed to be swapped out, too, adding another $1,659 to the list of work.

The NCC ordered one batch of testing on the well water and for radon gas, together costing about $8,200.

Work has also been done on the structure. Repairs on ceiling drywall and work on the framing cost more than $21,000 and new electrical installations cost $10,866.

Outside, grading for a gravel road cost $1,764.

There was plenty of money spent to maintain an RCMP detachment building on the property, from removing hazardous materials to installing new lighting.

Of course, as is the case with any stately home, the window drapes require a good vacuuming. The work cost about $500.

Cleaning the windows and rain gutters were part of another $1,575 bill.

Trudeau and his family can’t have a summer home besieged by insects and vermin. There were several payments made for pest control on the property.

In one case, the NCC spent $1,008 for a supply of pest control strips and $220 for “extra large glue traps.”

According to the NCC, the pest control expenses are for preventive maintenance to deal with insects and rodents.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2017/.....early-500k
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets see ...
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$500,000 in repairs and such in 2 years sounds excessive and it doesn't appear harper spent that kind of money ...

Well now....since these repairs date back at least to April of 2015, sorry what was that about Harper again?

The NCC oversees the property and makes the calls on it. Not the PM for the most part.

Moving along, $500,000 in not a lot of money to make major repairs to an old structure. I own an old house in Toronto, and I have an addition/repairs I want to put on, nothing dramatic but its going to be between $200-$300, 000 when done.

The of course there was this..." plenty of money spent to maintain an RCMP detachment building "....and no amount given. I wonder why?

So....really somethign to complain about? Nope !

I do grant that the costs probably is into an overrun from the original , which is fristrating but par for the course for any sitting govt it seems.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
Lets see ...
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$500,000 in repairs and such in 2 years sounds excessive and it doesn't appear harper spent that kind of money ...

Well now....since these repairs date back at least to April of 2015, sorry what was that about Harper again?

The NCC oversees the property and makes the calls on it. Not the PM for the most part.

Moving along, $500,000 in not a lot of money to make major repairs to an old structure. I own an old house in Toronto, and I have an addition/repairs I want to put on, nothing dramatic but its going to be between $200-$300, 000 when done.

The of course there was this..." plenty of money spent to maintain an RCMP detachment building "....and no amount given. I wonder why?

So....really somethign to complain about? Nope !

I do grant that the costs probably is into an overrun from the original , which is fristrating but par for the course for any sitting govt it seems.



its not necessary that $500,000 is an excessive amount to spend to renovate an old building of this size . its the fact they decided to spend the money to begin with .

for someone who claims to be about helping the middle class , how is spending $ half a million dollars renovating a hidden and secretive estate helping anyone ? the only person benefiting from this spending is himself and his family who are using the property .

I wouldn't have any issue with the trudeau's having a cottage , what I have an issue with as its seems the taxpayers are the ones paying for this lifestyle .
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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its not necessary that $500,000 is an excessive amount to spend to renovate an old building of this size . its the fact they decided to spend the money to begin with .

They being the NCC....right ?
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for someone who claims to be about helping the middle class , how is spending $ half a million dollars renovating a hidden and secretive estate helping anyone ? the only person benefiting from this spending is himself and his family who are using the property

The NCC does not claim that at all. Why would you think they do?

Hidden and secretive estate that serves our PM's and his guests who happen to be leaders of the free world.

LEt me guess.....have4 him go buy an 8 person tent to put in the backyard and cook bacon and egss over a fire...right?
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
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its not necessary that $500,000 is an excessive amount to spend to renovate an old building of this size . its the fact they decided to spend the money to begin with .

They being the NCC....right ?
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for someone who claims to be about helping the middle class , how is spending $ half a million dollars renovating a hidden and secretive estate helping anyone ? the only person benefiting from this spending is himself and his family who are using the property

The NCC does not claim that at all. Why would you think they do?

Hidden and secretive estate that serves our PM's and his guests who happen to be leaders of the free world.

LEt me guess.....have4 him go buy an 8 person tent to put in the backyard and cook bacon and egss over a fire...right?



I've seen other articles that said it was Trudeau's wife who had complained about the water at Harrington lake and that was why so much money was spent trying to repair the system . they had told her everything was fine but she didn't think so . and so a lot of money was spent trying to fix a problem which may have not even existed .


if he's really about helping the little guy , why does he need a secretive estate on a lake north of Ottawa . its not like any average Canadians can access and spend the night at this property .

I don't care if it was technically the NCC that spent the money , the only people who can use this property are the trudeau's . its all being spent for there personal benefit and to enhance there celebrity lifestyle
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt very much that the NCC can spend this kind of money without political authorization. TC is not a reliable source of info, but can you imagine that, in this world, an agency can spend whatever it wants without some political oversight?

And this is a cottage, not a palace. You could approach the question from the other end -- how much would it cost to build a new cottage?

It might be more expensive that a normal cottage would be, providing bedrooms for all those nannies that Mme Trudeau feels she needs when she goes out, roughin it in the bush.

Let's face it, the spoiled brat is exploiting us.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've seen other articles that said it was Trudeau's wife who had complained about the water at Harrington lake and that was why so much money was spent trying to repair the system .

Couldnt find anything about that. Perhaps you have something? And if so, knowing a lot about water issues, I imagine it wasnt expensive, it is a cheap fix.
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if he's really about helping the little guy , why does he need a secretive estate on a lake north of Ottawa . its not like any average Canadians can access and spend the night at this property .

You make it sound as if PM Trudeau kept the place for himself and no one before or after can use it.

Which we know is partisan hackery not owrthy of debate.

Look at the good news...Harper had the big dummy Rob Ford there!
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I don't care if it was technically the NCC that spent the money , the only people who can use this property are the trudeau's . its all being spent for there personal benefit and to enhance there celebrity lifestyle


Oh my. How.......petty can one be?

The NCC is in charge of keeping the property in good shape for all the coming PM's and the guests that they see fit to bring.

Between this and the ridiculous postulation that Sussex Drive improvements and nannies are all Trudeaus faults is rather funny.

You do know that Harper enjoyed the same and the reports stated that when he lived in the house it should have been repaired.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
I doubt very much that the NCC can spend this kind of money without political authorization.

Minister of CDN Heritage as a matter of fact oversees. NCC covers a lot of heritage joints in Ottawa and Gatineau. It has the authority to act on its own confirmed via a court case from the Supreme Court.
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TC is not a reliable source of info,

You are far worse than anyone here when it comes to reliable sources. YOu dont use them generally, resort to your 'feels' when you want (now thats laughable) and can seem to dredge up the wackiest sort of shit a la WND when it suits your fancy.
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And this is a cottage, not a palace. You could approach the question from the other end -- how much would it cost to build a new cottage?

If you wanted to replace all that is there, excluding the land....it would be in excess of $6M. So for half a million to be worrisome....or rather a point fickle partisans want to whine about...is laughable.
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It might be more expensive that a normal cottage would be, providing bedrooms for all those nannies that Mme Trudeau feels she needs when she goes out, roughin it in the bush.

Ha Ha. Good one. Proven stupid and wrong numerous times but hey, you keep on being you and embarassing. Makes it fun for me.
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Let's face it, the spoiled brat is exploiting us.


Tsk tsk...calling the NCC an exploiting spoiled brat.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugs wrote:
I doubt very much that the NCC can spend this kind of money without political authorization. TC is not a reliable source of info, but can you imagine that, in this world, an agency can spend whatever it wants without some political oversight?

And this is a cottage, not a palace. You could approach the question from the other end -- how much would it cost to build a new cottage?

It might be more expensive that a normal cottage would be, providing bedrooms for all those nannies that Mme Trudeau feels she needs when she goes out, roughin it in the bush.

Let's face it, the spoiled brat is exploiting us.


I agree , I can't see the NCC spending all this money unless they had approval and the repairs had been suggested as needed by the people using the property ( the trudeaus )

they wouldn't just spend all this money and do all these repairs , unless someone had said they needed to be done .

this whole story screams , entitlement
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree , I can't see the NCC spending all this money unless they had approval and the repairs had been suggested as needed by the people using the property ( the trudeaus )

they wouldn't just spend all this money and do all these repairs , unless someone had said they needed to be done .

this whole story screams , entitlement


Thats too bad because a modicum of investigation would confirm what I wrote.

You are dead wrong here.

There is enough to talk about w Trudeaus govt. This issue? Really petty and embarassing.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toronto Centre wrote:
RCO wrote:


I agree , I can't see the NCC spending all this money unless they had approval and the repairs had been suggested as needed by the people using the property ( the trudeaus )

they wouldn't just spend all this money and do all these repairs , unless someone had said they needed to be done .

this whole story screams , entitlement


Thats too bad because a modicum of investigation would confirm what I wrote.

You are dead wrong here.

There is enough to talk about w Trudeaus govt. This issue? Really petty and embarassing.



nobody else here believes that the NCC would of spent all this money fixing this little known residence hidden in the Gatineau hills if not for the fact , the people using it requested the repairs

its pretty obvious the trudeau's didn't think it was up to par and so it needed the repairs to meet there standards and expectations

this is a clear example of entitlement and there is no denying that
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Thats too bad because a modicum of investigation would confirm what I wrote.

You are dead wrong here.

There is enough to talk about w Trudeaus govt. This issue? Really petty and embarassing.


Well, direct us to the 'research' then .., It ought to be easy. It'd be nice to find out if the water story is correct.

I agree, it is embarassing when the head of your nation is such a wimp for his wifey-poo. And even worse when the wifey-poo in question is such an entitled bitch.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nobody else here believes that the NCC would of spent all this money fixing this little known residence hidden in the Gatineau hills if not for the fact , the people using it requested the repairs

Little known? That explains quite a bit since . It has been known since Diefenbaker wanted a respite to go fishing.

That was 1951.

No one else here knows that NCC is responsible for the place? I doubt that. One person may use his ignorance as a shield but thats not news.

Its a very valuable place the govt owns. Should they let it rot and lose money?
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its pretty obvious the trudeau's didn't think it was up to par and so it needed the repairs to meet there standards and expectations

Damn....such ignorance. Sad really.
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this is a clear example of entitlement and there is no denying that

We could go back and forth but one thing is true,
Yours is a petty partisan statement , no denying that.
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Well, direct us to the 'research' then .., It ought to be easy. It'd be nice to find out if the water story is correct.

I didnt bring up the water story so.....

"research' ? Look up the NCC and their mandate.
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I agree, it is embarassing when the head of your nation is such a wimp for his wifey-poo. And even worse when the wifey-poo in question is such an entitled bitch.


Ah...see? Look at that whiny response. A wimp that could probably wipe the floor with you .
Making you....? Whats less than a wimp? I guess a baby since you whine almost constantly.

A bitch huh.

I can always count on your to show your shortcomings in educated responses.

Thank you for this, I shall add misogynistic to the list.
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