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Stephen





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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Alberta's imbalance Reply with quote

Alberta PC leadership candidate Ted Morton has previously proposed that Alberta should have its own police force and pension fund.

Ontario has the Ontario Provincial Police, Quebec has the Quebec Pension Plan.

Alberta is one of two provinces on the paying out end of equalization. Should Alberta have more jurisdiction over these and other areas?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely it should...

The rest of Canada keeps crying for oilsands proceeds - but where were they when Alberta was investing heavilly in it? nowhere to be found..

Its high time Alberta puts it foot down and lets the rest of the country know its done being walked all over (although Klein has done an awesome job at this, it must continue).

The sentiment for separation is still high in Alberta - If Canada isn't careful it will lose a province that is actually of VALUE.

Right now, Alberta is in a good spot - with the conservatives in power, we won't see NEP2... as long as the conservatives are running the show, its ok - if they lose the next election, we'll see a lot of upset albertan's.

I'm curious whether its own police force would end up being any more cost effective than the RCMP contracts.. The Pension plan - a definite advantage for Albertan's..

I don't draw the line at Alberta on these topics, however - I believe all provinces should have enough control to implement things of this nature.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

biggie rection wrote:
I believe all provinces should have enough control to implement things of this nature.


Hey things are already bad enough in places like socialist saskatchewan - the more such 'power' you give to the likes of them - the more false autonomy they shall wrench out of it - let's first become free of the oligarchical socialist infrastructures [that are holding our futures hostage]!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Socialist saskatchewan should learn to elect better leaders then (much like ontario).

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like and respect the RCMP. I say leave em be.

What Alberta needs is more seats, to go with our recent jump in population.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the MSM reported recently, the population of BC and Alberta combined surpassed the populaton of Quebec yet Quebec has 11 more MPs. Fair?

-Mac
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. Maybe we should try blackmailing the country like Quebec does...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed... Elections Canada had best be looking into that for the next election..

hehehe, could end up with an EASY majority next time ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biggie rection wrote:
Agreed... Elections Canada had best be looking into that for the next election..


I wouldn't hold my breath. The way that Elections Canada went and carved up Edmonton's ridings in order to help Liberal candidates in some areas there (namely Anne McLellan in Edmonton-Centre and the candidate in Edmonton-Strathcona) during the last electoral boudaries review doesn't give me much hope for that happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like and respect the RCMP. I say leave em be.


Individual RCMP officers in Alberta are generally decent and do a good job. But the RCMP is a national police force. Albertans don't get as much input into and control over policing as they would with a provincial force.

Plus there could be significant savings for Alberta if it adopted a provincial force. Check this out: http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/.....Police.pdf
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CC Scott wrote:
biggie rection wrote:
Agreed... Elections Canada had best be looking into that for the next election..


I wouldn't hold my breath. The way that Elections Canada went and carved up Edmonton's ridings in order to help Liberal candidates in some areas there (namely Anne McLellan in Edmonton-Centre and the candidate in Edmonton-Strathcona) during the last electoral boudaries review doesn't give me much hope for that happening.


Hehehe, the Edmonton-Strathcona area is where I grew up ;) I can see your point..

I said that with a grain of salt - I don't expect Elections Canada to act with any sort of sensibility.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Mountain Rangers of Alberta/BC Reply with quote

providing our own police force, would guarantee Alberta's interests would be protected not Ottawa's agenda imposed.
if you don't realize the RCMP have a political agenda , i can post some historical posts to show this.

whether we agree with it or not the RCMP announcing a new investigation against liberals in the last election,,caused them seats and the RCMP knew that would happen and by the way ,,,no charges were ever laid about their investigation.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Mountain Rangers of Alberta/BC Reply with quote

kulvahs wrote:
whether we agree with it or not the RCMP announcing a new investigation against liberals in the last election,,caused them seats and the RCMP knew that would happen and by the way ,,,no charges were ever laid about their investigation.

Nice spin attempt. Too bad it's so devoid of facts.:roll:

The RCMP responded in writing to a complaint received from NDP MP Judy Wasylycia-Leis who took that letter to the MSM and the rest, as they say, is history. The RCMP made no announcements whatsoever, no claims of criminal wrongdoing on the part of the Liberals (as stated in the letter) and when asked for details of the investigation, they declined to give any information whatsoever. In other words, the RCMP did nothing wrong... this time.

If the RCMP hadn't responded in a timely manner, they would be accused of favouring their old political bosses, the Liberals, by hiding the allegation during the election, one of the longest election campaigns on record, by the way. Since they did respond, they were accused of attempting to influence the election. Damned either way; no win situation.

-Mac
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Mountain Rangers of Alberta/BC Reply with quote

Mac wrote:
kulvahs wrote:
whether we agree with it or not the RCMP announcing a new investigation against liberals in the last election,,caused them seats and the RCMP knew that would happen and by the way ,,,no charges were ever laid about their investigation.

Nice spin attempt. Too bad it's so devoid of facts.:roll:

The RCMP responded in writing to a complaint received from NDP MP Judy Wasylycia-Leis who took that letter to the MSM and the rest, as they say, is history. The RCMP made no announcements whatsoever, no claims of criminal wrongdoing on the part of the Liberals (as stated in the letter) and when asked for details of the investigation, they declined to give any information whatsoever. In other words, the RCMP did nothing wrong... this time.

If the RCMP hadn't responded in a timely manner, they would be accused of favouring their old political bosses, the Liberals, by hiding the allegation during the election, one of the longest election campaigns on record, by the way. Since they did respond, they were accused of attempting to influence the election. Damned either way; no win situation.

-Mac


They are afterall, tasked with upholding justice.. ;)
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