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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: Trudeau rules out liberal leadership run |
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( so much for trudeau as leader )
Trudeau rules out leadership run
By Kristy Kirkup, Parliamentary Bureau
Liberal MP Justin Trudeau. (Reuters)
OTTAWA - Liberal MP and charity boxing champion Justin Trudeau insists he isn't putting himself in the spotlight to spark a future leadership bid.
Trudeau re-ignited speculation about his political ambitions when he participated in -- and won -- a high-profile charity boxing match against Tory Sen. Patrick Brazeau here last weekend.
But the Quebec MP says he isn't interested in winning the party's top job.
At a press conference on Thursday, Trudeau said he made it clear more than a year ago that he wasn't interested in the leadership gig.
Trudeau said comments made by newly minted NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair are "nasty" for suggesting that interim Grit leader Bob Rae must be having a tough week due to all the attention on Trudeau.
Grit MPs including Marc Garneau and David McGuinty have expressed interest in running to become Liberal leader.
The party won't name a permanent boss until 2013, but many political observers believe Rae will run if the party's executive changes rules to allow him to take a shot at the position.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Po.....99171.html |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I suppose Boobs Rae isn't being nasty for all the lies he is spewing. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: |
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The next leader of the party will need to put in some elbow grease in an attempt to rebuild the party, its going to be a thankless job that the next next leader will benefit from.
I suspected Trudeau would want nothing to do with that. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| cosmostein wrote: | The next leader of the party will need to put in some elbow grease in an attempt to rebuild the party, its going to be a thankless job that the next next leader will benefit from.
I suspected Trudeau would want nothing to do with that. |
I don't have a clue who they could have that would be able to do the job. They need to try and win some support out west, Manitoba and BC would be good target areas for growth in my opinion. However, they obviously need to have a big comeback in Ontario and Quebec as well, and at the moment it does appear Thomas Mulcair may hold Quebec for the Dippers.
As much as he's hated by Conservatives Mark Holland probably wouldn't be a bad leader. I found him to be a talented parliamentarian, which was obvious I suppose by the CPCs desire to get rid of him.
I suppose there could be a wild card candidate that nobody is expecting, or are just simply overlooking. How many people heard of Nathan Cullen a year ago, or thought he'd be a strong candidate to replace Jack Layton just 4 months ago? |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | cosmostein wrote: | The next leader of the party will need to put in some elbow grease in an attempt to rebuild the party, its going to be a thankless job that the next next leader will benefit from.
I suspected Trudeau would want nothing to do with that. |
I don't have a clue who they could have that would be able to do the job. They need to try and win some support out west, Manitoba and BC would be good target areas for growth in my opinion. However, they obviously need to have a big comeback in Ontario and Quebec as well, and at the moment it does appear Thomas Mulcair may hold Quebec for the Dippers.
As much as he's hated by Conservatives Mark Holland probably wouldn't be a bad leader. I found him to be a talented parliamentarian, which was obvious I suppose by the CPCs desire to get rid of him.
I suppose there could be a wild card candidate that nobody is expecting, or are just simply overlooking. How many people heard of Nathan Cullen a year ago, or thought he'd be a strong candidate to replace Jack Layton just 4 months ago? |
I think before the Liberals look to focus on a region they have not won a majority of seats within since 1949 I think they need to focus on more winnable regions first.
The question for the Liberals becomes is it easier to:
1) Win Western Support from the Tories
2) Win Ontario Support from the Tories
3) Win Quebec Support from the NDP
If they can get a foothold somewhere then its the first step in the right direction for party rebuilding.
Mark Holland is a guy I would welcome as leader of the Liberals because he invites definition with his lack of viability amongst most Canadians and the CPC has more money then the LPC and I suspect with their low cost leadership race the NDP will soon have more money then the LPC, so going with a "Who Dat" candidate would be welcomed by most non-Liberal supporters.
With the Liberals its very very very simple;
Dalton McGuinty or Bust.
He won't win you the 2015 election but he will win you more then 34 seats and push back on the Conservatives in the 905's and the NDP in the 416's and at the end of the day since the Liberals haven't grown their caucus since the 2000 election growth has got to be a victory in itself.
Right now nearly a year after a historic election defeat the Liberals are largely in the same sub-20% place even the most optimist Tory assumed they would have risen above, the goal for the LPC is no longer winning an election its about surviving as a party.
The CPC has pillage nearly every last Paul Martin Liberal the party had; and any of the casual hangers on (I am looking at you Eastern Canada) have to at least be tempted by Mulcair.
If the Liberals don't get a "name" leader who isn't Bob Rae then they won't be a factor in 2015 let alone 2019. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Do you really think Dalton McGuinty could be a "good" leader for them?
Wonder how Jean Charest would do? He's supposedly a federal Liberal now. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | Do you really think Dalton McGuinty could be a "good" leader for them?
Wonder how Jean Charest would do? He's supposedly a federal Liberal now. |
Ontario voters can say what they want about the guy;
But they elected him to a pair of majorities, and were a few hundred votes away in one riding from a third.
The federal Liberals NEED a power-base, they need a fundraising core and they need a leader who is already define in the recent memory of voters.
Had you asked me a few months ago which direction the Liberals "should" take; I would have said a French leader like Charest or even a former Liberal like Mario Dumont may have been a good idea but I think eroding Mulcair support in Quebec is going to be an uphill battle.
The NDP as a party kissed the ring of the Quebec voter and that should allow them to coast a bit with Quebec support, however as a result the Liberals should be going hard and fast after the six ridings they lost to the NDP in the 416's and hitting hard in Northern Ontario after Mulcair "whipped caucus" comment about the LGR.
The Liberal lack the money and the support to go head to head with the Tories to recoup support they need to get the ridings they have been losing to the NDP since 2006 back in line first, and a guy like Dalton certainly helps that, |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I think I brought this up before but what's the deal with Dwight Duncan? He seems to have been a bit more involved in federal politics then McGuinty has been, is he liked in Ontario? His recent years as finance minister might not be great when it comes to attack ads but I suppose if McGuinty could overcome tht Duncan could. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Progressive Tory wrote: | | I think I brought this up before but what's the deal with Dwight Duncan? He seems to have been a bit more involved in federal politics then McGuinty has been, is he liked in Ontario? His recent years as finance minister might not be great when it comes to attack ads but I suppose if McGuinty could overcome tht Duncan could. |
The Ontario fiscal situation makes him a perfect scapegoat for why Ontario is in the situation they are in.
He is an excellent politician, and would be a worthy candidate for election as an MP for the Liberals, but as leader I just don't know... |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| cosmostein wrote: | | Progressive Tory wrote: | | I think I brought this up before but what's the deal with Dwight Duncan? He seems to have been a bit more involved in federal politics then McGuinty has been, is he liked in Ontario? His recent years as finance minister might not be great when it comes to attack ads but I suppose if McGuinty could overcome tht Duncan could. |
The Ontario fiscal situation makes him a perfect scapegoat for why Ontario is in the situation they are in.
He is an excellent politician, and would be a worthy candidate for election as an MP for the Liberals, but as leader I just don't know... |
I've heard his name mentioned as a likely successor to McGuinty so I figured federal leader could be a possibility. He would be a strong candidate for MP though in an area of Ontario where the Liberals have not been doing great.
Mulcair and Harper sort of have similar personalities so the Liberals would be wise to find a leader he is more outgoing, humorous and easygoing. Layton's personality was his biggest asset and Mulcair's personality is a stark contrast.
Trudeau may have an okay personality but he's dumb. |
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