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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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( ndp were the only party to get there supporters out in large numbers for this by-election , alot of conservatives didn't even show up , liberals % went up but actual number of votes may be about the same as before )

Polls reporting: 196/196 Voter turnout: 32,318 of 74,512 registered electors (43.4%


This works out fairly well for the NDP,
Positive momentum walking into their convention with a simply massive blow-out victory in Toronto-Danforth.

I am not surprised that Liberals came out in what they would now define as "force" there was actually a sense amongst their ground-force that they would win this riding.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RCO wrote:
( ndp were the only party to get there supporters out in large numbers for this by-election , alot of conservatives didn't even show up , liberals % went up but actual number of votes may be about the same as before )

Did the NDP get their supporters out or did the Liberals? The Liberals got more votes then in May and did better than the poll at the beginning of the campaign. 10,000 fewer people voted for the NDP.

Are the Liberals good at getting their vote out in by-elections? Look at Vaughn and Winnipeg North, some had said Fantino could beat the Liberals in the by-election by 10,000 votes and it came down to less then 1,000.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmostein wrote:
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cosmostein wrote:
The NDP should win this riding with easily 50%+ of the vote.
The only party that stood a chance was the Liberals and they ran a nobody.


They ran a "nobody," but the interesting communications/marketing strategies their candidate used are noteworthy. Very different.


As they say necessity is the mother of all invention;
The Liberals selected their candidate last and gave the poor sod a month to campaign in "Jack's riding" he needed to get innovative.

Considering the Liberals punted, Gordon did a respectable job.


The Liberals may have had someone stronger who was ready to run depending on the NDPs candidate. Craig Scott had a strong resume, someone like George Smitherman would have been in for a fight. Had they chosen Layton's 30 year old female constituency assistant the Liberals may have put together a totally different campaign.

I'm interested to see how much money was wasted here.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Liberals may have had someone stronger who was ready to run depending on the NDPs candidate. Craig Scott had a strong resume, someone like George Smitherman would have been in for a fight. Had they chosen Layton's 30 year old female constituency assistant the Liberals may have put together a totally different campaign.

I'm interested to see how much money was wasted here.


The quality Liberals who could have ran opted against running before Scott had won the nomination.

I think its more a by-product that most folks (myself included) assumed the Liberals would have been in a much better position nearly a year after their election meltdown.

The Liberal popularity in Toronto has not returned as I expected it might, and even Layton's constituency assistant would have had a pretty good shot against Smitherman.
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